Mikey's Beast SSSG OSCILLATOR

[BroMikey]

I know what I was going to say now. On dynamic resistance

of the diode on the base of channel one. I noted that the

resistance moves from 1, 2 and 3 amp drive current.

It seems like a selection of a better diode might not

fluctuate so radically and also maybe a M.O.V. or a

METAL OXIDE VARISTOR could help swing the base

current over in the right direction.

On resistance for the base.

The oscillator is now running 65vdc and the 2nd channel
is running more open than ever. #1 channel resistor
is warm, #2 resistor is burning my finger.

The impedance to the dump caps has changed everything.

Now to balance the 2 channels the 2nd channel needs
600 ohms of resistance while #1 is running at 100ohms.

I think matching the transistors beta may be critical here.

I have never balanced 2 channels.

I still need a means of accurately deciding how much
power is going through each transistor. I am thinking
amp meters for each channel plus the laser temp probe
might get me closer than I am now.

[Dupe]

Mikey, i would use a very low value resistance in series with the oscillators output and input to load. same for each channel. Then either use an analogue test meter on the lowest voltage DC range or your scope even, compare readings and match up each channel.
Note: If using your scope don't common your probes ground leads between the two resistors!! Specially if using a dual channel scope. Finally any output diodes used_make sure you match each output to well within the forward voltage drop of the diodes spec.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi mike, sounds like good things to test, as i would like to expand this into multi strand also.
Hi wistiti, so have you had any extra results using the series led base trick.
I am glad to report, apparently my battery isn't dying, i was just seriously overloading it.
I was using around c4 discharge rate, last night i discharged using around c8, 1.5 amps from battery or 18.9 watts, using only one 6 watt led bulb with my inverter.
Which is alot, the inverter efficiency plus the power factor of the led bulb must be crap.
Anyway, the battery still managed to give 132 watt hours down to 10.5 volts, which is just about 12 amp hours.
Been charging overnight using the re-emf charger, using 30 volt input this time at 5.5 watt input to make some more charge/discharge cycles.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi folks, Hi mike, sounds like good things to test, as i would like to expand this into multi strand also.

12 amp hours.
Been charging overnight using the re-emf charger, using 30 volt input this time at 5.5 watt input to make some more charge/discharge cycles.
peace love light

Good progress and yes Dupe is going to keep us on track it looks

like.

Mikey, i would use a very low value resistance in series with the oscillators output and input to load. same for each channel. Then either use an analogue test meter on the lowest voltage DC range or your scope even, compare readings and match up each channel.
Note: If using your scope don't common your probes ground leads between the two resistors!! Specially if using a dual channel scope. Finally any output diodes used_make sure you match each output to well within the forward voltage drop of the diodes spec.

Hey Dupe

Thanks for the reply. Here are a few pictures. All of my switching

boards for washer motors have this. One resistor reads .22ohms

if you have any specific low ohm values it would help me to order

the right ones. Also wire wound low value resistors are able to

handle heat well. And it looks like this is what is often used.

The isolated channel testing makes sense but when I combine

channels as long as each channel has a separate

EMITTER AND COLLECTOR resistor, then one should not so radically effect

the other. This is conjecture or speculation on my part. Feel free

to confirm or reject my analysis.

[BroMikey]

Hey Dupe

I have a practical diagram from John Bedini. In it the circuit

has a .05 ohm resistor. We must keep in mind the fact that

the SSG circuits forbid the use of these extra resistors so

these SSG circuits are more of a learning tool for beginners.

So I guess I am moving out of the fantasy subset into the

practical / industrial side of reality. Have you ever used a

.05ohm resistor?

[Dupe]

Hi Mickey, suggested using resistors only to initially assist in balancing and matching up both channels. you can remove them once each channel has been matched. Just measure the voltage across the resistor and set up channel 1 make a note of the results, remove the resistor or link it out. Then carry out the same adjustment for channel 2 and likewise remove the resistor or link out.
These low values are quite commonly found in power circuitry as current limiters or voltage/current feedback loops, your looking at mV voltages across these devices which can form part of the comparator circuit for regulating voltage and or current limiting.
That first pic has a shunt to the right of jp24 they have a specific very low ohmic value and found frequently in high current industrial chargers!! Any poor soldering around those bad boys and your in for major burn ups. Surprises me that components subjected to high thermal temperatures are in direct contact with the circuit board, often ending up with a charred mess or fire!!

[Dupe]

I like your collection of circuit boards, parts come in useful for projects. Used to repair industrial 100A plus charger boards the ones beyond repair come in useful...toroid coils etc.
I have a good collection of junk boards and assemblies, just finding the room to store them is becoming a problem now!

[BroMikey]

Mikey, i would use a very low value resistance in series

with the oscillators output and input to load. same for each channel. Then

either use an analogue test meter on the lowest voltage DC range or your

scope even, compare readings and match up each channel.
Note: If using your scope don't common your probes ground leads between the

two resistors!! Specially if using a dual channel scope. Finally any output

diodes used_make sure you match each output to well within the forward

voltage drop of the diodes spec.

Hi Mickey, suggested using resistors only to initially

assist in balancing and matching up both channels. you can remove them once

each channel has been matched. Just measure the voltage across the resistor

and set up channel 1 make a note of the results, remove the resistor or link

it out. Then carry out the same adjustment for channel 2 and likewise remove

the resistor or link out.
These low values are quite commonly found in power circuitry as current

limiters or voltage/current feedback loops, your looking at mV voltages

across these devices which can form part of the comparator circuit for

regulating voltage and or current limiting.
That first pic has a shunt to the right of jp24 they have a specific very low

ohmic value and found frequently in high current industrial chargers!! Any

poor soldering around those bad boys and your in for major burn ups.

Surprises me that components subjected to high thermal temperatures are in

direct contact with the circuit board, often ending up with a charred mess or

fire!!

I like your collection of circuit boards, parts come in

useful for projects. Used to repair industrial 100A plus charger boards the

ones beyond repair come in useful...toroid coils etc.
I have a good collection of junk boards and assemblies, just finding the room

to store them is becoming a problem now!

Hi Mikey, just a couple of points. Firstly how are you

monitoring your battery charging current! also I run a separate feedback wire

directly from my batteries under charge. When your topping off at critical

voltage levels it's best referenced direct from the battery, but make sure

the connections are good!!

Hey Dupe

Thanks for the comments. I have been thinking about the resistors

on the emitter and collector to balance channels so I can later pull

them. And since the resistance is around 1 ohm on the wire coil then

I was thinking .5 ohm on the emitter and .5 ohms on the collector.

Yes I will do them one at a time the same way.

Another thought is to take measurements on the analog amp meter

and use the laser probe to see if the relationship between the two

follows any linear scale after a certain point.

That way after getting the two channels opening the same using

resistors I can tell by temperature as well if the balance was lost

at anytime after everything is working together.

I will work on this in the future. Thanks for all the good pointers

on the comparator resistor/feedback systems. I had not thought

of this lately.

I'll bet you have lots of goodies to work with out of your 100 amp

board stacks. I do the same thing with circuits. It is never enough.

[BroMikey]

Battery charger video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQZckp1N3ak

[BroMikey]

Hey Dupe

Been doin a bit of practicing on tuning.


I split up the channels as you pointed out and the diode and

resistor on channel one works out to about a 150 ohm

equivalent resistance for channel two.

When I first noticed my circuit was not balanced and got

to thinking about it, was seeing a hot resistor on channel 2

and a cold one on channel one.

Then I started using the split testing idea you suggested

with amp meter. So now I am very close.

I use the same boost coil of 1.2 ohm for a load.

I switched out the transistors to MJL4281's because

when I tried to charge a scooter battery of 36 volts

the MJL21194's went bye bye.


Before all of this i was getting 720 ma through channel one

and 1350ma on channel 2. This was the reading for the trickle

charge setting. Then as I went up in power to the 3 amp

range channel one read 1325man and channel two read 1700ma.

What i noticed is that if I get close to the balancing resistance the

two pull eachother closer or lock together as if they want to

balance each other.

I am within 75-100ma differential for the entire scale 500ma-3000ma.

All of this being accomplished with an additional 50 ohms of

resistance on channel 2 to even up things a little due to that diode

in channel one. A very humble fix

All of these years I have been running unbalanced.

Other thoughts to get real close or closer than 75ma may not

be important for this 2 channel unit capable of 400 watts

running no more than 50 watts max.

But my thoughts were to use a fast diode i have to see if

dynamic resistance becomes lower offering a lower swing

in my 1-3amp range.

That is for later.

Also thoughts of using a TVS in the base to hold resistance more

stable? But I don't know what I am really talking about there,

just a guess and these parts are not for that?

I don't know.

It is a little thing and I am pretty dern happy about it

[BroMikey]

What surprises me is how little we hear about tuning from these

people on groups who are supposed to be adept in the Bedini

oscillators. I find nothing that is specific just generalities and

this shows me that very few people have practical units.


Tuning is brought up at sites where they claim they are

some kind of leaders for this stuff and never give any direction.

Oh they suggest selecting diodes that are close and going

through a hundred transistors to get three or four pretty close

but to me this is a ridiculous impractical approach

[BroMikey]

Amplifiers are fine tuned by resistors at the base.

People go on about beta but after burn in that beta value

is far from what it was. The truth is like every sphere of

sales the companies try to make the sale of their product

into some mysterious specialized formula requiring you

to come to them for the best tuning when all it is to

do the job is adding some resistance.

Veracity is a word they only use when they want to

but when it comes to shared knowledge it has no meaning.

I have always had little respect for a stuffed shirt for this reason.

Nobody wants to bring it down to a level of common sense

shared knowledge to get the tuning done.

i would have these 3 post all into one but this site is not working again

[BroMikey]

Negative Resistor Scope shots

This is what the BEAST OSC is.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWD0Wy_UOEA[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

A few years back I talked to John Bedin about my beast oscillator.
He commented on how he made some of these and that you never knew
what might happen.

Over the years I have heard many lies about the monopole.

Then is PART 22 of "ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM" series John gave
the answer I had been looking for. Many great advances can be
found talked about in PART 22.

In this tiny snippet of PART 22 listen to John Bedini talk about how
uncontrolled groups treat the inventors and why we didn't get all
that we needed to produce practical amounts of power using his SSG.

Then I heard John say that we don't need the wheel and that always
stuck with me. So this is why I work on my "Beast Oscillator".

The poles should be placed differently than is shown in our current
Monopole information. The Magnets on the rotor should be done like
Howard Johnson had shown John, in oder, Ferrite-rubber-Neo.

The energy must also be sent to a cap dumb first.

John Bedin does not use the MONOPOLE CIRCUIT.

Listen to John's rebuke to us all.

Thanks John. Part 22 in the year 2010 was the first time John Bedini
officially stated that we do not have what we need with current
information. All we have are "Table Scraps"

Bless your heart John. But he did give us the answers in PART22



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNyRhnVhjc&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]

.................................................. .................................................. .......................................regarding the SSGs (and other derivatives) where the batteries were said to be 'conditioned' It is so, and the batteries do act differently. Cutting open a battery in this (conditioned) state and comparing to a similar battery that has been cycled and charged by normal means indicates a very different colour material coating the plates. slate grey, I recall this being mentioned by John B in one of his video's and checked myself .. tis so. Its an altered substance in some way ... anyway back to the reading

Yes it is, but that is not what you need to have a practical SSG for
running power at the house. You can ignore me all you like, but I don't
see a practical machine at your house.

You guys ramble on about nothing, decorative phrases into no where.

I will not be ignored. You younger guys take note at all of the high
talk yet no one has anything useful.

When John said it was worthless to explain his machines to most, he
was right and I know this by the way you treat me and others. You are
lost in zero's and ones.

On the other hand John Bedini has shown us that by creating a magnet
gating action motor, that can switch polarity with a coil spike, practical
free energy is here.

If you people are so smart, why don't you see these simple truths?

Endless years of scientific chatter with nothing to show for.

The coil placement is not according to the MONOPOLE info, NON LINEAR
fields are not made like that. Rotor magnets that switch polarity when
they are hit with a spike.

How simple does it get? The people here, who say they want free energy
have not taken basic projects that lead to the answers, so they will never
have it.

Watch me, I am working on magnet motors.

I watched the transistor/semiconductor markets rise from their beginning
so I know what I see and what I am talking about. Tech talk is only a
distraction taking away your time to experiment. Which it seems you never
do.

The answers are sitting right under your noses and you don't know it.

So there, now you have your rebuke from me, not to stop you from
getting the free energy, NO!! So that you will find it.

However some of you have long since closed the door in finding it so
nothing can enter into your small world.

Just continue to TEE off those who have the answers and you will get
exactly what you deserve, zero's and one's.

[scratchrobot]

A few years back I talked to John Bedin about my beast oscillator.
He commented on how he made some of these and that you never knew
what might happen.

Over the years I have heard many lies about the monopole.

Then is PART 22 of "ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM" series John gave
the answer I had been looking for. Many great advances can be
found talked about in PART 22.

In this tiny snippet of PART 22 listen to John Bedini talk about how
uncontrolled groups treat the inventors and why we didn't get all
that we needed to produce practical amounts of power using his SSG.

Then I heard John say that we don't need the wheel and that always
stuck with me. So this is why I work on my "Beast Oscillator".

The poles should be placed differently than is shown in our current
Monopole information. The Magnets on the rotor should be done like
Howard Johnson had shown John, in oder, Ferrite-rubber-Neo.

The energy must also be sent to a cap dumb first.

John Bedin does not use the MONOPOLE CIRCUIT.

Listen to John's rebuke to us all.

Thanks John. Part 22 in the year 2010 was the first time John Bedini
officially stated that we do not have what we need with current
information. All we have are "Table Scraps"

Bless your heart John. But he did give us the answers in PART22



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNyRhnVhjc&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]



Yes it is, but that is not what you need to have a practical SSG for
running power at the house. You can ignore me all you like, but I don't
see a practical machine at your house.

You guys ramble on about nothing, decorative phrases into no where.

I will not be ignored. You younger guys take note at all of the high
talk yet no one has anything useful.

When John said it was worthless to explain his machines to most, he
was right and I know this by the way you treat me and others. You are
lost in zero's and ones.

On the other hand John Bedini has shown us that by creating a magnet
gating action motor, that can switch polarity with a coil spike, practical
free energy is here.

If you people are so smart, why don't you see these simple truths?

Endless years of scientific chatter with nothing to show for.

The coil placement is not according to the MONOPOLE info, NON LINEAR
fields are not made like that. Rotor magnets that switch polarity when
they are hit with a spike.

How simple does it get? The people here, who say they want free energy
have not taken basic projects that lead to the answers, so they will never
have it.

Watch me, I am working on magnet motors.

I watched the transistor/semiconductor markets rise from their beginning
so I know what I see and what I am talking about. Tech talk is only a
distraction taking away your time to experiment. Which it seems you never
do.

The answers are sitting right under your noses and you don't know it.

So there, now you have your rebuke from me, not to stop you from
getting the free energy, NO!! So that you will find it.

However some of you have long since closed the door in finding it so
nothing can enter into your small world.

Just continue to TEE off those who have the answers and you will get
exactly what you deserve, zero's and one's.

Yes you are right, it can't get any simpler and it's better to let your hands do some work instead of hanging out on this forum all day.
Maybe you can make a video yourself with your free energy device when you are done?

Good luck and let us play with the ones and zeros.