Mikey's Beast SSSG OSCILLATOR

[BroMikey]

Greetings to everyone.

This is Michael Rowland in Central Kansas

I am creating this page to share with the beginners some of the basic things I have learned the last 2-3 years from John Bedini. John has built oscillator circuits ever since he can remember and has helped some of the underclassmen, such as myself, to gain a foot hold on radiant technology.

We all love you John B.

Okay let's get down to business starting with my basic design that originally came about because of Patrick (Minoly) and lasersabers image. I had tried the cap for the trigger but it didn't work everytime on my big beast circuit but the tiny wire did work with a cap for triggering.

Anyway let me post my web page. I have it somewhere else on this site but it is lost even from me so I am making this post to compile all of the data so I can look back on it myself.

BroMikey's Science Projects






This was my starting point and then I burned everything up several times because I had bad batteries, the wires slipped off the terminals, diodes under rated, turning it up to high, poor heat sinks, no fan for running more power, stuff like that.

So I am putting a voltage limiting circuit on the base of the main trigger. Look at this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVHNaPZEwE

[BroMikey]

Rebuilding the SSSG Bedini Oscillator

Okay here is what I have been using for a 12vdc battery. Transistor mjl21194



12vdc input or a 24vdc input but don't try to run a higher voltage output unless you you call 50-60 voltages high voltage. Oh you can run it to 80volt but make no mistake, your days are numbered and up in smoke it will soon go.

To make it more durable I thought I'll use Mosfet's right? Like these.



Wrong again I had 12 of them all soldered in and took them off my sinks and am saving them for other projects. Here are the right parts for my new upgrade. MJL4281a 350 volt parts not 200volts same amps



These parts can handle a higher output voltage. According to industrial standards if you want your circuits to last for ever, you need to run this part for a 90-100vdc output. Unless you want to spend your days rebuilding it everytime you turn around.

Oops there it goes again up in smoke. Go for it, not me.

I decided to stay away from the mosfets to keep it simple, easy to trouble shoot, no fet drivers and so on. The thing is when you do an Energizer with circuits controlling the fets it makes the oscillator less versatile.

What I mean is if you do it this way you can charge anything by using any input voltage and the circuit will follow the input voltage down without falling flat at lower levels. Then mosfet driven circuits almost need a program board to change output voltages for charging 24-36vdc banks.

The IRFP250's are tiny compared to an high powered audio NPN transistor and physically larger by twice for the same power handling. I am looking at durability and longevity, something I can not damage even if I beat and max it.

Heat sinks and fans help with higher powered systems. Also the diodes I had in there were far to small and far to slow. The diodes were getting hot and I didn't realize it till I smoked the machine a few times. Neons need a 4000-5000 ohm resistor in series, but I had none. Kiss it all goodbye.

Up in smoke, there it goes again, no biggy I have all day.NOT!! I work for a living gent's.

Here are my new diodes 30EPF12 IR DIODE FAST REC 1200V 30A TO247AC



Here are my old ones



I want more output than 12 watts so i am upgrading.

[Hitby13kw]

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bedini

@BroMikey - as always intrigued with what you have shown, but I'm sad The above link needs help

Hitby13kw

[Hitby13kw]

Can you try this ?

Bro, That looks like a monster beast, when you rebuild, In addition to your voltage limiting circuit, could we ask you to try adding another diode to the base of each transistor, believe it will improve your performance.

Something like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9brftimra...beast.jpg?dl=0

Just a thought, try it and let us know.

Hitby13kw

[BroMikey]

Diodes in the base

You know I did that and forgot to add it into the picture. I modified that circuit over time and yes the diode is referred to as "Positive Triggering" My first crystal oscillator in the mid 60's had that diode too. We use to sit up when mom went to bed and wind coils connecting them to our cats whisker. I also use 4000-5000 ohm resistors in series with my neons but it is not in the picture. Mainly because I put two 12vdc batteries on the input sometimes. I have built 6 or 8 of those machines.

One of my smaller ones has 3 led's in series on the base.

Our flashlight let us work on it under the covers while Mom checked in on us to see if we were sleeping yet and as soon as she got quiet, we got up

No battery, yet we could hear eveything all around the world. I knew then free energy would one day be mine to a greater degree than the simple radio set. We got a color TV about then.

Also I have been thinking about switching more components in and out for further testing, like a tiny light bulb.

I wonder what the reasoning is behind having this style of twisted coil? What is it about these coils that is the focus on having one. Why and how is it special in someway from other coils. Does it produce anything new?

I know it is a boost circuit using this coil but that is not the same thing, I think it is more.

Mikey

Bro, That looks like a monster beast, when you rebuild, In addition to your voltage limiting circuit, could we ask you to try adding another diode to the base of each transistor, believe it will improve your performance.

Something like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9brftimra...beast.jpg?dl=0

Just a thought, try it and let us know.

Hitby13kw

[BroMikey]

WebSite

Try this link

BroMikey's Science Projects

@BroMikey - as always intrigued with what you have shown, but I'm sad The above link needs help

Hitby13kw

[BroMikey]

Mikey's Beast Osc Update 1 of 2



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOGqbIh56l4


Here I show you my rebuilding efforts concerning the Bedini SSSG. That is S=solid S=state SG=schoolGirl Oscillator ciruit. In this video I use the same 14 awg coil having 4 power channels and one 20 awg trigger wire. The way I figure it is, why build a huge wheel and 10 coil unit if I can't make this single pole work.

Therefore since I want a wider range of battery charging capability I am seeing to it that my selected devices can handle 60-90vdc outputs.

[BroMikey]

Mikey's Beast Osc Update 2 of 2



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5P0VgCyn4Q


Part 2 is the continuation on several cap dumps I operate daily as well as the use of a John Bedini style oscillator to charge the cap bank. In this update I show larger diodes, higher powered transistors MJL4281A devices NPN 350 volt and this allows for an input above 12vdc.

You may use lower voltage devices such as 200 volt MJL21194 but any voltage over 50-60 voltages might shorten the life of your machine. Another consideration is when batteries are shorted/bad devices boarding the voltage ceiling can go up in smoke fast.

[genessc]

The bedini style 1:1:1 coil is unique in that inductance does add when put in parallel. When you put multiple strands of same guage wire on a bobbin and wind them up to the same length you end up with a 1:1 transformer.

Unlike a pair of 1000uF capacitors put in parallel which yeilds 2000uF at the max volt rating of the capacitors, if you cowind 2 18awg strands that are 100ft long onto the same bobbin you end up with the first strands measured inductance being the SAME as the second strands inductance value.

Thus when you put strand 1 and strand 2 in parallel you might think that the measured value, which I'll call 100mH just to name a value, would double or add like it does in capacities.

It does Not.

The two strands wired in parallel will still produce a measurement of the original 100mH value.

Bedini seems to take advantage of this affectation which shows that you can have a multistrand bobbin that when all strands are Off and not conducting, each strand will have a specific inductance and specific resistant and capacitance. When the strands are all conducting at the same time, the inductance doesn't change. However the RESISTANCE is divided by the total number of strands presently cowound on the bobbin.

Its sorta like having a big tank of water with a hole at the bottom thats really big and normally closed/off. When the switches conduct the tanks big hole opens up allowing an instant Large flow of the total current to be carried by the parallel cowound strands... but with bedinis single transistor per strand configuration, when this gets closed or shutoff, all that instant current wants to keep flowing and thats how the bedini master/slave circuit charges up coil banks... I usually call that diode just at the collector that goes to the collector capacity the compression diode.

Anyways this is what I've come to understand from a decade of building and observing this sort of system... from multiple inventors... bedini was one of the few that delivered on their claims with the circuits shared.

Cheers,
Gene

You know I did that and forgot to add it into the picture. I modified that circuit over time and yes the diode is referred to as "Positive Triggering" My first crystal oscillator in the mid 60's had that diode too. We use to sit up when mom went to bed and wind coils connecting them to our cats whisker. I also use 4000-5000 ohm resistors in series with my neons but it is not in the picture. Mainly because I put two 12vdc batteries on the input sometimes. I have built 6 or 8 of those machines.

One of my smaller ones has 3 led's in series on the base.

Our flashlight let us work on it under the covers while Mom checked in on us to see if we were sleeping yet and as soon as she got quiet, we got up

No battery, yet we could hear eveything all around the world. I knew then free energy would one day be mine to a greater degree than the simple radio set. We got a color TV about then.

Also I have been thinking about switching more components in and out for further testing, like a tiny light bulb.

I wonder what the reasoning is behind having this style of twisted coil? What is it about these coils that is the focus on having one. Why and how is it special in someway from other coils. Does it produce anything new?

I know it is a boost circuit using this coil but that is not the same thing, I think it is more.

Mikey

[BroMikey]

Thank you for this writing. I have never heard this before and makes good sense. One strand is triggered and 3 strands are slaved with my 4 strand twisted wind.

Yet you say "COIL BANKS" are charged adjacent to the Master? Sounds like you are saying my 4 strand represents the master and I need more 4 strand coils to collect more energy passed on by the master.

Yet all strands must receive the same amount of 12vdc power, so I wonder how this array will offer extra. All I could think of was that the stray magnetic field/energy in the coil will transfer to another pole.

You see we are now talking about OU in Bedini systems but this discussion only centers around improved efficiencies, because John finally released his secret for the BIG MACHINE in Part 22 of his series.

John stated that "we" (meaning replicators of the SSG) were not getting what he was getting due to the fact that John uses HOWARD JOHNSON magnetic gate technology to get the multiple COP increases.

Did you see this PART 22 conference? It was in NOV 2010 on Beardons 80'th birthday. John shows a 16 magnetic poles having convex surfaces and other gate material behind it. It reached to the ceiling some 14-16 feet high.

He had 2 or 3 staggered coil/poles at the bottom.

Do you know about this revelation from PART 22?

You are a very knowledgeable observer. I have never heard your line of reasoning. Good stuff.

Mike

The bedini style 1:1:1 coil is unique in that inductance does add when put in parallel. .................................................. ...................


Its sorta like having a big tank of water with a hole at the bottom thats really big and normally closed/off. When the switches conduct the tanks big hole opens up allowing an instant Large flow of the total current to be carried by the parallel cowound strands... but with bedinis single transistor per strand configuration, when this gets closed or shutoff, all that instant current wants to keep flowing and thats how the bedini master/slave circuit charges up coil banks... I usually call that diode just at the collector that goes to the collector capacity the compression diode.

Anyways this is what I've come to understand from a decade of building and observing this sort of system... from multiple inventors... bedini was one of the few that delivered on their claims with the circuits shared.

Cheers,
Gene

[genessc]

Thanks for catching my slang, sorry coil banks is wrong... should have said coil Strands. This used to be called the master/slave config, or the slaved config, as he would use the normal SS SG and then just add more power strands and an additional transistor and compression diode per power strand and combine all the compression diode outputs into the single cap like you show on your webpage.

I *think* that this works because each strand is seeing the full image of the source energy and then due the Resistances Changing during conduction or non-conduction times is what helps skew the power such that it charges capacitors up very quickly compared to conventional methods.

I have seen bedinis big wheel. It used large ferrite blocks with Neos behind the ferrites to shape the pole face that was down directed at the large pair of coils that he was "switching" with. I have most of the bedini/bearden books and some of the DVD's, some were pretty useless.

He noted it took him some 30k to build that big wheel. (as I recall he was trying to sell it after the conference.)

I've watched his vid where hes explaining it, but without knowing how that circuit schematic was setup I can't build it for myself to study on my bench.

I started on the bedini stuff maybe 15 years ago now. So been at it a *little* while.

Anywho, hope thats helpful.
Take it easy,
Gene

Thank you for this writing. I have never heard this before and makes good sense. One strand is triggered and 3 strands are slaved with my 4 strand twisted wind.

Yet you say "COIL BANKS" are charged adjacent to the Master? Sounds like you are saying my 4 strand represents the master and I need more 4 strand coils to collect more energy passed on by the master.

Yet all strands must receive the same amount of 12vdc power, so I wonder how this array will offer extra. All I could think of was that the stray magnetic field/energy in the coil will transfer to another pole.

You see we are now talking about OU in Bedini systems but this discussion only centers around improved efficiencies, because John finally released his secret for the BIG MACHINE in Part 22 of his series.

John stated that "we" (meaning replicators of the SSG) were not getting what he was getting due to the fact that John uses HOWARD JOHNSON magnetic gate technology to get the multiple COP increases.

Did you see this PART 22 conference? It was in NOV 2010 on Beardons 80'th birthday. John shows a 16 magnetic poles having convex surfaces and other gate material behind it. It reached to the ceiling some 14-16 feet high.

He had 2 or 3 staggered coil/poles at the bottom.

Do you know about this revelation from PART 22?

You are a very knowledgeable observer. I have never heard your line of reasoning. Good stuff.

Mike

[BroMikey]

I have seen bedinis big wheel. It used large ferrite blocks with Neos behind the ferrites to shape the pole face that was down directed at the large pair of coils that he was "switching" with.

..................................... but without knowing how that circuit schematic was setup I can't build it for myself to study on my bench.

I started on the bedini stuff maybe 15 years ago now. So been at it a *little* while.

Anywho, hope thats helpful.
Take it easy,
Gene

Yeah it helps Gene, I heard him say the 10 coils on the BIG MACHINE were all in series, does THAT make any sense?

Maybe he was talking about some other version, I don't know, I really have no clue.

Then one time I heard him say something like " Well you can all do this with the wheel if you want but you don't need it, while beardon HIS FRIEND was building and running the MEG.

I believe it should be possible to get OU in a significant amount as John had by making HJ Magnetic gates that reverse polarity as they are hit with a spike. This was John's comment for his OU Ferris wheel.

He said that the reason why that the people on the internet do not have this extra information is because there were so many idiots on the monopole3 groups that he got ticked off and left.

I think John has more than one design so this gets confusing at times.

In other words an SSSG could also be fitted with the HJ gates could provide excess.

Thanks for helping me to brainstorm.

Mikey

[Aaron]

neon trouble?

Thanks for sharing that Mikey!

What voltage are those neons? They shouldn't be blowing...they're really for protection if you disconnect the back end while there is power to the front. In other words, the back battery should never be disconnected while the machine is running because that spike has to go somewhere. If not to the back battery, then it can pop your transistor with a pressure explosion so that is why the neon is there to prevent that. I'm sure you know but but don't understand why the neons are melting - solder joints I'm assuming.

If you are not disconnecting the back end battery while running, then I'm curious as to how the neons are problematic.

That cap you're using to keep that from happening would take quite a bit away from the impulse hitting the battery on the back...should charge much better without it I believe.

You're running it in forced oscillation mode instead of self oscillation mode but that shouldn't make a difference with the neons.

[BroMikey]

Neons Blowing

Thanks for sharing that Mikey!

What voltage are those neons?

I got these 90v neons from Russia called #1 or #2 big big bulbs. I have some mini's for my 20awg oscillators and if I goof they act as a fuse shorting across and saving the junctions.

If you are not disconnecting the back end battery while running

Yeah that is what happened during testing but on another note I am getting mixed up remembering why. This was back last year and I ran the input way up on low power devices and the transistors went at the same time as the neons melted, so I was a bad boy. I think it was 4-5 amps at 27 volts and the wire slipped off on another setup. Mainly I just want to cover all points this time because I am spending more money for MJL4281a and fast recovery diodes. Gonna run 36 volts at 10-25 amps to hit my Giant pallet batteries.

My dump is running at 90vdc but I want to run a big oscillator on them for awhile. This time I am going to be Mr Perfect trust me on that. Bolts.

I am so glad to have learned all of this from you guys ahead of time so I can get all the bugs out.

That cap you're using to keep that from happening would take quite a bit away from the impulse hitting the battery on the back...should charge much better without it I believe.

Yes you are so right I purposely put a big cap across some of my Oscillators because I was afraid of the clamps falling off as I reconditioned a variety of shelved batteries. Lately I am more careful about this. I bolt them suckers down now even if it takes extra time.

Generally I like the Oscillators hooked to a dump so the other cap just adds more whammy, however in spike mode I take it off. Switches. Just like Genmode, I have been using a 2 way 40 amp ac switch. These switches are red and very muscular looking.

What happened was I ran this one up to 90 volts to a capacitor and high amps and the thing slipped off. Dumby Me So I put another bulb in and lowered the amps to 1/2 amp and let it slip and cracked the bulb again.

I put it back on in a New York minute say 1/2 a second. But it was to late.

Then I remembered John saying on the ENERGYSCIENCEFORUM to put some resistance in series with the neons and he gave a figure I couldn't remember. I did a search and lo and behold the numbers started popping up 5.6k or 5k so I have some 3900's I stuck on there.

The bulbs don't fry instantly now if I mess up. You got to remember how big this coil is. My 20awg 4 channel units don't need it but this 14 awg wire is hell on wheels. I really love it. "Big bad tires and everything"

You're running it in forced oscillation mode instead of self oscillation mode but that shouldn't make a difference with the neons.

Self or forced? I have a lot to learn on that. I use a tank circuit and positively triggered base with a diode on small units but to tell you the truth on this big dog I try it both ways and I don't see a change.

Well if I want to run at a higher frequency at about 100 ma draw I might need to use the tank circuit because on the small wire I can't alway keep a stable oscillation way down low.

But with the 14awg wire I think the coil capacitance is all I need to run it. When I use a diode and tank circuit on the trigger the amp draw fluctuates wildly while without it just using a resistor it is more steady.

Don't they call that forced? And also please refresh me on self oscillate.

MikeyPs The new site server is Dynomite

[BroMikey]

MJL4281A Testing

I got my new devices in. These audio transistors are unparallelled. Twice the watts and 350 volt max and now when I run 50-100 volts on the output and a 3 amp 15vdc input there is zero heating. The dern things are rated at 230 watts.

I have learned that when going up on the voltages say to 24vdc or even 36vdc the device needs to have a high voltage rating such as 350v. This has eliminated my heating issue. For such a small amp draw or 3 amps you would think a 15/30 amp device would never heat, but they do over 50volts and even at 45-50volts the 200 or 250 volt device will heat right up.

I just checked it again and zero heat to the finger touch, zero. The other same size devices will feel warm to hot after 30 minutes. So it is confirmed MJL4281A is a far superior component.



So this means I can go up to 40 amps on the input because I am using 8 devices for the new build. Let's see 30amp X 40 Volts = 1200 watts all day long. That is just the converter operation/burn in

Then I can back it down from high efficiencies with zero heat. One thing about it is I am using 10 watt 100 ohm resistors and they are warm so maybe I need 15 watt parts. I can hold them for about a 1/2 minute before I need to let loose of them. Kind of hot.

Mikey