Mikey's Beast SSSG OSCILLATOR

[totoalas]

Nice circuit Bro Mickey
Just want to know what is the crow bar circuit function.....???

My target is to use less solar panel in my house and apply ur circuit with sssg

so i m following ur design development ....... thanks

[BroMikey]

Just want to know what is the crow bar circuit function.....???

4 Crowbars.

Crowbar1=12.8v

Crowbar2=13.5v

Crowbar3=15v

Crowbar4=73v safety shutdown

Hey Totoalas

Crowbar is the same for all (ALMOST)

Crowbar is voltage control the way you like it.

When batteries are properly charged input power levels
are turned down at different voltages.

For instance if I run my inverter hard for 2 days and my battery
is 12v, I have a dead battery. The inverter pulled my battery down
to 10.5v and now it is very low.

The sitting voltage with no load connected is 12v, empty battery.

Now I must charge the battery hardest up to 12.5-12.8v.
This means that my charger is working on high and is putting
max into the battery.

Let's say your SSSG can deliver 800 watts max but you only run 500watts.
So 500 watts is going to the battery to charge it back up again.
This is "high"

When Crowbar1 reaches 12.8v the circuit drops a resistor.

So now your SSSG is running on "medium". Maybe only 400 watts. Now less power in going to the battery. Soon the battery will go from 12.8--to--13.5v
and crowbar 2 will drop another resistor out of the trigger of the SSSG.

Now your energizer is in "low" from 13.5--to--15v full.

So we have "HIGH", "MEDIUM" and "LOW"

In low the SSSG is only 300 watts or whatever you want it to be.
Now you have 3 crowbar controls to charge your batteries with
so you don't hurt your battery.


NUMBER 4 CROWBAR never works, it is there only if
the battery is broken or disconnected. You don't use crowbar 4 it is
for emergencies.

Crowbar4= 73 volt shutdown of SSSG energizer. In case a battery plate
gets broken and the voltage rises to high. Also if your cap dump
stops and the caps keep filling up past 50 to 60v the crowbar4 shuts off
the power so you do not hurt your cap dump circuit too.

Whatever energy project we choose, the battery must be charged and this is the best way to charge a battery.

Good to see you.

Mikey

[totoalas]

thanks Mickey

great stuff .... thats the future of SSSG and ure right dont know of somebody except Patrick working on this development

totoalas

[BroMikey]

thanks Mickey

great stuff .... thats the future of SSSG and ure right dont know of somebody except Patrick working on this development

totoalas

Okay thanks 4 the heads up on PK. I didn't see Patrick's stuff yet. Maybe I'll
have a look. Glad to see somebody wants the safety controls besides me.

Mikey

[BroMikey]

It is important to have an automatic shutdown circuit so I have
been looking at a few different ways of doing that.

The simple way is the LATCHING RELAY. It needs
a start button and the Crowbar could be the stop.

I will show this in the next drawing in the days ahead.

I will use this in the same circuit I have.

[BroMikey]

In this diagram I have used a latching relay.
This latching relay with momentary reset
button solves the issues of using both GenMode
or Spike mode and still have a limit control.

This also lets experimenters use common
relays without having to special order.

Follow the 6 pin connection pathways and I
think you will find that this one is best. I
still need to add the LED indicator lights.

Will update soon. This is my favorite ski-matic.

As a for instance my 7 year old and my 11
year old will be plugging this Energizer
charger into their scooters and if they do not
properly push the plug in all of the way, when
they hit the reset button the charge will stop
instantly.

Or lets say the 7 year old runs up and rips
the cord out of her scooter of course being
in a hurry to catch one of her favorite friends,
then the unit still shuts off.

For scooters I intend to only use Gen-Mode most
of the time with only periodic Spike-Mode
conditioning, no cap dump.

I have used GenMode for a couple of years now
and the scooter batteries do well. Cold boiling
to 31vdc is the way to go.

Well I forgot to remind everyone that all of my
scooter batteries are converted daily to ALUM.
I wouldn't give you a nickel for a gallon of ACID

My limit will be set at 31volts for shutdown and
2 other power level changes for cutting back
current as the charge cycle nears its end.

This diagram looks at the cycle end voltage of
31volts in the case of filling a 24volt battery pack
or it could be used as a 73volt limit for a capacitor
discharge bank. This way cap dump mosfets are
protected from over voltage as well as possible
damage to the caps.

This is a fail safe function making it impossible to
fail unless you hooked up something backwards.

We will get to the reverse voltage protection as
needed. In the case of the tiny scooter energizer
I plan to use a one way plug system as is normally
the right way.

On the other hand for one of my desktop models
with gator clamps I will want the reverse protection.

This is my gift to you who want protection like I do
and control as is used in industrial units. For those
who do not have time to design circuits like this
and might not be sure how to start.

Super computers have there place and this is not
one of them.

Scooter chargers sit out in the pouring rain

Enjoy.

[boguslaw]

How does this crowbar circuit works ? Is it working due to thyristor current reaching 2mA level and opening thyristor ?

[BroMikey]

How does this crowbar circuit works ? Is it working due to thyristor current reaching 2mA level and opening thyristor ?

I think that is what the data sheet says, the important thing is that it opens
wherever I set the voltage on the meter, so in this case 31v is what I want.

I tested this dozens of times and the circuit operates the same every time.

When I read the Data Sheet it is like most all SCR's stating a minimum voltage and a minimum ma range. Then this is based on the gate resistance.

For instance for sensitive gate SCR's we need 320,000 ohms of resistance
to do the same job opening at the said voltage as the general purpose type that only need 25k.

So it looks like the sensitive gate needs approx 10X more resistance in the gates than the non-sensitive gate. Both work the same, no problem.

All transistors and other semiconductor junctions work at their specified
voltages and ma ranges.

Do you have a question about one of your parts? Or perhaps you
have a circuit to show us?

Look at the gate resistor and vary it to make it adjustable. Say you wanted
18volts then you would decrease the gate resistance so it opened before 31volts.

The cool thing about the SCR is that once it is latched it stays latched until
the gate voltage drops to under 500 mili-volts. You have to cut the power to reset. Mosfets and transistors do not display this characteristic that I am
aware of without special designs.

This crowbar consists of a single SCR and a single gate resistor.

Mikey

[BroMikey]

Here is a typical understanding of an SCR




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItSwgq3M0Eo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGgamlfaVxI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmscJdu0oW4

[BroMikey]

Here is a scooter diagram. In the picture you can see a direct
connection from the batteries to the power module. I would have
liked to pulse my scooter batteries but I dare not for fear of
ruining the electronics as power surges destroy components.

I have heard of people pulsing at 2volts above battery voltages
to keep damaging surges to a minimum. I think the best solution
is to have some sort of bus bar dummy link that can be pulled
during a surge charge.

If possible I would like to hear any ideas on this so I may also
speed pulse charge. The scooters are getting more attractive
with some of them running 36volt motors.

I'm just not sure how much pounding these systems can handle.

John B stopped pulsing altogether and uses a form of GenMode
splatter in an AB series shunt regulator amplifier energy right off
the crystalline junctions. No coil either.


I like pulsing batteries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fPCOeWWrrs

[BroMikey]

I finished the build of this circuit today and there was one error
that I have corrected where the reset button went.

Other than that the circuit does work perfectly as compared
to diagram produced by a circuit generator, this one is tested.

I will post a video soon and some pictures. The control module
takes up a 2" X 2" space on a PC board and is only one of 3 or
4 such circuits adjusted at various settings on a single battery
charge controller.

This is my first built and tested 73 volt shutdown crowbar
with latching relay. Once the start button is hit to charge
your battery it immediately shuts off if the battery plates are
not absorbing the energy or if a battery charge terminal
has fallen off.

This 73volt figure is used because the energy will also be
going to a cap dump where caps will top out at 60-65v.

I am filling a 400volt 1500uf capacitor to 73 volts at which time
the circuit shuts down.

Sweet success.


Mikey

In this diagram I have used a latching relay.
This latching relay with momentary reset
button solves the issues of using both GenMode
or Spike mode and still have a limit control.

This also lets experimenters use common
relays without having to special order.

Follow the 6 pin connection pathways and I
think you will find that this one is best. I
still need to add the LED indicator lights.

Will update soon. This is my favorite ski-matic.

As a for instance my 7 year old and my 11
year old will be plugging this Energizer
charger into their scooters and if they do not
properly push the plug in all of the way, when
they hit the reset button the charge will stop
instantly.

Or lets say the 7 year old runs up and rips
the cord out of her scooter of course being
in a hurry to catch one of her favorite friends,
then the unit still shuts off.

For scooters I intend to only use Gen-Mode most
of the time with only periodic Spike-Mode
conditioning, no cap dump.

I have used GenMode for a couple of years now
and the scooter batteries do well. Cold boiling
to 31vdc is the way to go.

Well I forgot to remind everyone that all of my
scooter batteries are converted daily to ALUM.
I wouldn't give you a nickel for a gallon of ACID

My limit will be set at 31volts for shutdown and
2 other power level changes for cutting back
current as the charge cycle nears its end.

This diagram looks at the cycle end voltage of
31volts in the case of filling a 24volt battery pack
or it could be used as a 73volt limit for a capacitor
discharge bank. This way cap dump mosfets are
protected from over voltage as well as possible
damage to the caps.

This is a fail safe function making it impossible to
fail unless you hooked up something backwards.

We will get to the reverse voltage protection as
needed. In the case of the tiny scooter energizer
I plan to use a one way plug system as is normally
the right way.

On the other hand for one of my desktop models
with gator clamps I will want the reverse protection.

This is my gift to you who want protection like I do
and control as is used in industrial units. For those
who do not have time to design circuits like this
and might not be sure how to start.

Super computers have there place and this is not
one of them.

Scooter chargers sit out in the pouring rain

Enjoy.

[Dupe]

Battery charging techniques

I've been experimenting with various charging circuits on and off for some time, have used 555 timers as the drive oscillator and also SSG designs. I came across big meaty ferrite inductors from industrial heavy duty charges, wound on a single layer of insulated stranded hook up wire for feed back self oscillating. Had several NPN TV scan output transistors BU208 / 508 from my TV repair days years ago so used them to provide output pulses. I also found 4x15000uf 30v caps from my collection of junk, wired these in parallel and wired in a resistor network to tap off a charge reference voltage. These caps charge quite quickly up to 30v at which point I turn off the oscillator fire the gate of a hefty thyristor to dump my cap bank into 12volt lead acid batteries. The anode of the thyristor is then grounded to prevent latching before turning the oscillator back on to refill the caps. This cycle repeats approx every 3 seconds pumping a high energy current pulse into the battery. I use a micro controller to control these functions... otherwise can become complicated.
Have used this same circuit without the cap bank for charging my nicad drill batteries, charges these quite quick.

[BroMikey]

I've been experimenting with various charging circuits on and off for some time, have used 555 timers as the drive oscillator and also SSG designs. I came across big meaty ferrite inductors from industrial heavy duty charges, wound on a single layer of insulated stranded hook up wire for feed back self oscillating. Had several NPN TV scan output transistors BU208 / 508 from my TV repair days years ago so used them to provide output pulses. I also found 4x15000uf 30v caps from my collection of junk, wired these in parallel and wired in a resistor network to tap off a charge reference voltage. These caps charge quite quickly up to 30v at which point I turn off the oscillator fire the gate of a hefty thyristor to dump my cap bank into 12volt lead acid batteries. The anode of the thyristor is then grounded to prevent latching before turning the oscillator back on to refill the caps. This cycle repeats approx every 3 seconds pumping a high energy current pulse into the battery. I use a micro controller to control these functions... otherwise can become complicated.
Have used this same circuit without the cap bank for charging my nicad drill batteries, charges these quite quick.

Absolutely Dupe

Many coils produce radiant spikes and work however use the common grounding for long term charging so you do not damage the plates.

Batteries want current pulses unless they are in bad need of desulfation.

Mikey

[BroMikey]

Hello Guy's and Gal's

Those of you who want a practical application for your run away Bedini
SSSg oscillators. Flying magnets are bad enough but run away voltage
will do your machine in just as quick.

Here is my short VIDEO showing how it works. A few Picture too

https://youtu.be/QNa9H2bou0U

[BroMikey]

Understanding free energy SSG Bedini motors and much much more
for self run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcfK0hfMKQI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtO7McrRIY