Mikey's Beast SSSG OSCILLATOR

[Dupe]

Hi Mikey, have a look at this site:
TVS Diodes | Surface Mount Diodes - Littelfuse
With any batteries that are dried out the impedance as seen from your oscillator output at the battery terminals will be quite high so high amplitude spikes will be more apparent. Take a look with your scope at and around your trigger circuit. Select a TVS just comfortably above the maximum charging voltage! What I do when first charging an unknown battery is connect my scope across the battery and take a look at how the spikes are being absorbed...use an attenuated probe X10 or higher so not to damage the scopes input circuits!! Ideally your trigger circuit should see a steady/stable DC voltage that rises in accordance with the charge voltage on the battery.
I'm looking again at the radiant charging concepts based on our pulse techniques. Safe top off circuits are high on my agenda. My problem is having enough time to spend experimenting!

[SkyWatcher]

Hi mike, i've never used them either.
Though it appears that they suppress voltage, when a certain voltage is passed, they allow more current to flow.
They are junction based components, similar to a diode, but can go both ways.
peace love light

[totoalas]

la blanc has posted OVERUNITY WITH MODIFIED JOHN BEDINI YOUTBE CHECK THIS OUT

[BroMikey]

Hi Mikey, have a look at this site:
TVS Diodes | Surface Mount Diodes - Littelfuse
With any batteries that are dried out the impedance as seen from your oscillator output at the battery terminals will be quite high so high amplitude spikes will be more apparent. Take a look with your scope at and around your trigger circuit. Select a TVS just comfortably above the maximum charging voltage! What I do when first charging an unknown battery is connect my scope across the battery and take a look at how the spikes are being absorbed...use an attenuated probe X10 or higher so not to damage the scopes input circuits!! Ideally your trigger circuit should see a steady/stable DC voltage that rises in accordance with the charge voltage on the battery.
I'm looking again at the radiant charging concepts based on our pulse techniques. Safe top off circuits are high on my agenda. My problem is having enough time to spend experimenting!

Yes well I will keep you going til then.

Thanks Dupe, I will report back soon.

la blanc has posted OVERUNITY WITH MODIFIED JOHN BEDINI YOUTBE CHECK THIS OUT

Post the link ASAP please, I am on the run.

Hi mike, i've never used them either.
Though it appears that they suppress voltage, when a certain voltage is passed, they allow more current to flow.
They are junction based components, similar to a diode, but can go both ways.
peace love light

Thanks Sky

I will be updating everyone on the TVS , spike absorbing qualities.

The circuit I posted as a final circuit is a great energizer/charger

with genmode and SG mode for cleaning plates.

The study I am engaged in now is the next step for the bench

unit with cap dump. That one will be more complex than even

the final larger build for the HUGE cap dump running my 3000ah

house batteries.


Everybody keep in mind that this next charger is only a

2-3 amp Max input like the scooter charger but has multi

voltage taps up to 60 volts AC or 75vdc.

Also the versatility I want with this one will make it the longer

of the projects.

Still I need to put my scooter charger back in the box.

It all takes time and maybe if I keep learning these basics

I will be ready when a similar OU circuit pops up on the net.

[totoalas]

OVER UNITY WITH MODIFIED JOHN BEDINI CIRCUIT YT JUST TYPE IT LABLANC ENGINEERING

[BroMikey]

OVER UNITY WITH MODIFIED JOHN BEDINI CIRCUIT YT JUST TYPE IT LABLANC ENGINEERING

Okay I just spent 20 minutes looking around at OVERUNITY

and I can't figure out which sub section to go to. If anyone

knows how to work the OVERUNITY site can find a link some

where way in the back please post it. The information got

buried. I did try for over 20 minutes of which is waste of time.

[totoalas]

its in youtube thats why you cant find it just copy paste the title in search of youtube and wella its there

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, well it seems the watt hours are decreasing somewhat in this battery and with it, efficiency.
I'm not sure if it's because it is a starting battery and is not liking the deeper discharges to 12 volts, or if it's because my replication of the re-emf charger is not giving it a proper charge, meaning somewhat more of a surface charge.
It gave 115 watt hours on last cycle, though i had to discharge to 10.9 volts to gain extra, which going that low im sure is not good for this battery.
So i am charging it with a standard car charger and see if it improves.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

its in youtube thats why you cant find it just copy paste the title in search of youtube and wella its there

You,You, You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7fmDkDOJlI

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, oopsy, i just realized I'm drawing far too many amps for this non deep cycle tractor battery.
Well the real problem was, i didn't know the cold cranking amp hour equivalent and i just read an article by Bedini and apparently this 235 cca battery, is around a 12 amp hour.
Which correlates with the first discharge cycle i did, 141 watt hours, though by continuing to discharge with such a high load, it may be damaging the battery.
So i will stop and use only one 6 watt led bulb as a load with inverter from now on, which is right around the c20 rate of discharge.
Which is interesting, my previous tests with alum and epsom salt tests, probably would have turned out much better had i not overloaded the battery so much.
peace love light

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, i tweaked a couple things on the re-emf charger.
I added the two blue leds in series with the base of transistor.
I added yellow leds together, removing one by one and could not get them to just barely light to try and attain the claimed extra performance that it may provide.
So i just used the 2 blue in series, maybe a red or 2 in series with the blue may do it.
Also changed the flyback diode to a 200 volt, high current fast diode.
The other diode used, was only 40 volt i have found out, but it was high speed and high current also.
Also added 220 nanofarad capacitor in parallel with 110 ohm base resistor.
So, next tests are to cycle with the proper c20 discharge rate and recharge with the new improved re-emf charger replication.
It is drawing .2 amps with the 19.5 volt supply or 3.9 watts.
peace love light

Edit: i just noticed in the pjk book, apparently we need to jump start the circuit between the positive and just before the base resistor, when the circuit will not oscillate, so i will now try and add more leds and do so.

Edit 2: ok, that did work, i used 4 yellow or more gold leds in series with base resistor and it did not oscillate, then used jumper wire and we have oscillation and is drawing .15 amps now, we will see how efficient it may be by cycling.

[BroMikey]

I know what I was going to say now. On dynamic resistance

of the diode on the base of channel one. I noted that the

resistance moves from 1, 2 and 3 amp drive current.

It seems like a selection of a better diode might not

fluctuate so radically and also maybe a M.O.V. or a

METAL OXIDE VARISTOR could help swing the base

current over in the right direction.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi mike, if stability is what you need then go for it.
However, it is claimed that a fluctuating base current is giving extra results in some oscillators.
From pjk book, "In this circuit the LEDs are there to cause base current fluctuations as a mechanism to get COP>1 performance,
and so, they are not there for lighting."
I am going to try and tweak even further, adding as many gold leds as i can until the jumper method with finger or resistor no longer kick starts the oscillator.
Then back off 1 led until it does.
peace love light

[BroMikey]

Hi mike, if stability is what you need then go for it.
However, it is claimed that a fluctuating base current is giving extra results in some oscillators.
From pjk book, "In this circuit the LEDs are there to cause base current fluctuations as a mechanism to get COP>1 performance,
and so, they are not there for lighting."
I am going to try and tweak even further, adding as many gold leds as i can until the jumper method with finger or resistor no longer kick starts the oscillator.
Then back off 1 led until it does.
peace love light

I have the LED's in the trigger of one of my oscillators now

for the last 3 years that I charge everything from a watch battery

with to a cordless drill. The input is a PC 12vdc supply and 2 LED's

were not enough so I went to 3 LED's in series. Also you can use

other current limiting bulbs known as a "GRAIN OF WHEAT" size.

Thanks for reminding me. The LED's are diodes and so the single

diode that I am using now would not be needed and mine is working.


Maybe I could use that idea on this larger design.

Tracking for base current is much needed for all Bedini designs

or any Oscillator with 2,3, 4, on up to 100 channels.


LED's are an excellent base current limiting device.

It just seems like there must be other ways of keeping

base current in check.

If you are having to kick start your oscillator then you need

a tank circuit on the base. The tank circuits can be set up

to start the trigger process without monopoloizing. In other

words the triggering that you are seeing now will be the same

where it finds it's own resonance but the process is kick

started automatically.

[Wistiti]

Hi folks, i tweaked a couple things on the re-emf charger.
I added the two blue leds in series with the base of transistor.
I added yellow leds together, removing one by one and could not get them to just barely light to try and attain the claimed extra performance that it may provide.
So i just used the 2 blue in series, maybe a red or 2 in series with the blue may do it.
Also changed the flyback diode to a 200 volt, high current fast diode.
The other diode used, was only 40 volt i have found out, but it was high speed and high current also.
Also added 220 nanofarad capacitor in parallel with 110 ohm base resistor.
So, next tests are to cycle with the proper c20 discharge rate and recharge with the new improved re-emf charger replication.
It is drawing .2 amps with the 19.5 volt supply or 3.9 watts.
peace love light

Edit: i just noticed in the pjk book, apparently we need to jump start the circuit between the positive and just before the base resistor, when the circuit will not oscillate, so i will now try and add more leds and do so.

Edit 2: ok, that did work, i used 4 yellow or more gold leds in series with base resistor and it did not oscillate, then used jumper wire and we have oscillation and is drawing .15 amps now, we will see how efficient it may be by cycling.

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RE-EMF Charger
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