water enhanced fuel systems [50% water]

[RAMSET]

To be clear this is NOT a spritzer or similar water injection system .and also
the limit for water percentage has not been defined yet .

in this presentation Brad has chosen to start with the oldest motor he could easily grab in Australia
and prove he can run on a very heavy water content with the same power output.

Note * Brad and his friend have already done this with modern petrol gen sets and comparison load testing for many many hours.
@TinMan
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In this project we are turning back time,and going to see just how long ago water could have been to increase efficiencies of the ICE. We are not talking %5,10% or even 20%,we are talking 50% plus increases in efficiency by adding water-->and we are going to make it even harder by using a very old stationary engine that i picked up today. We will also be switching over to a diesel engine after we have completed this first project.

This first video is just showing the engine we will be using for the project. It is a sundial type B. It was manufactured in the 1940"s,and is a 2HP engine.

But first we must get it running.

Water enhanced fuel system's.
vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE6xBjwq_kI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCcIZDGFvAE

thx for looking and commenting

Chet K

[mikrovolt]

To go back and find how to best burn water in an internal combustion probably need to go back to a modular approach to engine design.
By modular I mean the ability to interchange components such as cyclinders or flywheels or camshafts.
You will notice that the development of variable speed was in it's infancy. As a generator it is not that important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNge9r1Yi4


some fundimental differences:
Water-fuelled car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In order to burn water the changes are in different components.
The cylinder dimensions would be different and the camshaft would be different
the flywheel would be different. After they ground the camshaft it was a mess.
The timing and duration properties of a cam shaft should be out where they can be
adjusted especially with water.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvSAnpn_YHw
The need to be a good machinist or have a lot of money to fund prototype designs of a water burning engine.
The Hansen models have some elements for basic design that could be useful.

As the need for more horsepower increased and oil became more abundant the rpm and the variable output
also became more important. Like windmills the low rpm was not concidered efficient but larger sail type worked.
The high speed and large volume of internal combustion aspirated more and more small particles of monoxide into the air.
The conservation of fuel, higher compression, lower rpm, larger flywheel tend to be the cleanest.

As generators go the rpm trade offs are influenced by the source.
today adding permanent magnets to a car alternator is easy.
or using an axial windmill might be better using larger pulleys to adjust for low rpm.
I found a homemade low torque low rpm generator that is successful his first generator would spin
easy by hand. Possibly there could be more improvements on the dielectric part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnyo95hon-U

[RAMSET]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxR0tZ2s6tM

Microvolt ,thanks for the comments.
here is a link from Johan [a good friend to Us] that has some more history

https://sites.google.com/site/braxpe...erinfuelblends.

Johan has stated that water comes "apart" around 2000C, he found that certain
"soaps" could effect this bonding strength Tremendously .
Johan is able to run Diesels [upto 50% ] this way.. NOT gasoline engines.

TinMan has something very special here.

thx for looking
Chet
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Re wrtner's comment below ,I was trained in Aircraft ,,,the anomaly being investigated here goes way beyond
the pressure gains and temp issues that small amounts of water were used for in aircraft at altitude or for performance gains.

[wrtner]

To go back and find how to best burn water in an internal combustion probably need to go back to a modular approach to engine design.

Pratt & Whitney may be able to help.

We need to find an archivist or company historian. They injected water into P47s but only for a short time (e.g. to get away from a pursuing 109) because it could blow the engine.

Also, the P51
P-51 Mustang Performance

[mikrovolt]

I have heard that some were making the mixture and running this in a small diesel engine.
It had something to do with the right chemistry developed in the soap (hydrolyzer) ?
Todd Marine had one supposed to work with 45% demineralized water?

[RAMSET]

A Lot going on with TinMan ATM

here are some links for diesel [NOT GAS}
TinMan is running Gas [upto 80 % water under certain conditions]

Water enhanced fuel system.

the public demo is still pending TinMan is actually frying much bigger fish ATM [will be posting a thread here shortly]

actually AKing posted here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...device-21.html