Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[Fjohnnyb]

Hi Fjohnnyb

Actually there is no reason to pay any attention to anything Bro. Mikey posts. He didn't start this thread and he hasn't built the device under question. His only real skill (if you want to call it a skill) is to insult people. I have realized over the years that when someone has to turn to insulting a person for asking questions it is almost always because they don't have any answers and try to chase you away with insults so you will quit asking questions they can't answer. They are not man enough to admit they may not know.

Please just continue with your analysis. I think you are pretty well on the mark as to what is actually going on.

Carroll

PS: Bro Mikey was right about one thing. He said your posts might look intelligent to some people. He is correct. Your post look intelligent to those of us that have actually made a living working in electronics and really understand what is going on. Thank you for your posts.

You are right, its just not productive arguing with him. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

I will make use of that ignore list...

[Minsky]

God Bless you Minsky

With all due respect I think Clarence is willy to help people do his setup but 101 other experiments are all up to us.

Clarence wants to help people get his system working first, thats it, the rest is up to us.

Bless you too BroMikey,
Thanks for your efforts to bring this knowledge out into the world with your cohesive circuit schematics. It might be a first small step but this could easily be the biggest advancement in science of the 21st century.

Regards

[Turion]

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[BroMikey]

God Bless you Minsky

With all due respect I think Clarence is willy to help people do his setup but 101 other experiments are all up to us.

Clarence wants to help people get his system working first, thats it, the rest is up to us.

Clarence,
Have you had a chance to work this system with an alkaline battery? I know they like to soak up energy without heating up.

I'm not worried one bit about the charging of batteries as I know this is a minor improvement as compared to the overall energy amplification from the ground. I'd like to know if you were planning on building the multiphase version of the B&L toroid.

Thanks and regards

[BroMikey]

ferroresonance is a condition that occurs in a system where there is a non linear inductance in series with a capacitive link. If the system is being driven by a frequency, such as a 50/60 hz line, and the inductance shifts to a level that makes the capacitive link resonant then it creates a short circuit or a switch of sorts. This can cause high voltage conditions to occur and/or over current situations that can damage components.

When the current in the loop varies the inductance of the coil changes based on the saturation of the core. If the conditions are right this forms a resonant series LC in which case has only the resistance of the conductors to deter transfer - basically a dead short.

Here is ferroresonance

Ferroresonance in electricity networks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Minsky]

Clarence,
Have you had a chance to work this system with an alkaline battery? I know they like to soak up energy without heating up.

I'm not worried one bit about the charging of batteries as I know this is a minor improvement as compared to the overall energy amplification from the ground. I'd like to know if you were planning on building the multiphase version of the B&L toroid.

Thanks and regards

[Forthebest]

ferroresonance is a condition that occurs in a system where there is a non linear inductance in series with a capacitive link. If the system is being driven by a frequency, such as a 50/60 hz line, and the inductance shifts to a level that makes the capacitive link resonant then it creates a short circuit or a switch of sorts. This can cause high voltage conditions to occur and/or over current situations that can damage components.

When the current in the loop varies the inductance of the coil changes based on the saturation of the core. If the conditions are right this forms a resonant series LC in which case has only the resistance of the conductors to deter transfer - basically a dead short.

Good day Dragon ,
if I am well following you and after reading 1,372,658 patent there would be some efficiency imperative to finetune the ground grid by adding for example a suitable serial capacitance on the load ground in order to resonate with the 50/60 hz captor loop operating frequency and by then maximizing the ground energy transfer . Am I right ?

Best regards

P.S. sorry if I missed the point but needed to clear this grey zone in my mind

[BroMikey]

Here again is a perfect example of people not listening. Analyzing and asking questions belligerently are two different things. First you attack and then when someone puts you in you place you cry like children "HE"S HURTING ME"

Like Clarence had stated before some of you act like kindergarteners.

Next you and your buddies will continue your whinning, petting each other
crying on one anothers shoulder mikey hurt me did you see that? Like two year olds.

mikey hurt my feelings and I don't want to play with him anymore, I.m gonna tell my mommy and friends mikey is a bad boy.

Yup kindergarteners.Of course you will poop your pants next.

Real men huh?

Hi Fjohnnyb

Actually there is no reason to pay any attention to anything Bro. Mikey posts. He didn't start this thread and he hasn't built the device under question. His only real skill (if you want to call it a skill) is to insult people. I have realized over the years that when someone has to turn to insulting a person for asking questions it is almost always because they don't have any answers and try to chase you away with insults so you will quit asking questions they can't answer. They are not man enough to admit they may not know.

Please just continue with your analysis. I think you are pretty well on the mark as to what is actually going on.

Carroll

PS: Bro Mikey was right about one thing. He said your posts might look intelligent to some people. He is correct. Your post look intelligent to those of us that have actually made a living working in electronics and really understand what is going on. Thank you for your posts.

[BroMikey]

Dude that is because you are not listening. The challenge is the same for you as for me, Build it based on the gift given to both of us without interrogating. You and all of the same buddies setting on your hands will chime in to back you up so you will feel righteous.

I don't need lots of people petting me to know I am right.

Now how much more of an authority do I need to be?

Your minds says it does work yet it must be put to the test and knowing human nature as lazy as it is wants to be excused from the actual work.

And the whirl wind of talk will never settle anything.

Clarence is good enough to show his device so take it or leave it.

If you don't want to replicate it then no one is harassing you to do so.

Other than that your purpose here is obvious.

I'm curious as to what makes you such an expert BroMikey, please tell us. Have you built it? Seen it? Used it? Tested it? Or are you just very religiously taking Clarence's word for it?

You seem to have a lot to say about the matter so at least tell me why I should believe you.

[citfta]

Hi Fjohnnyb

Actually there is no reason to pay any attention to anything Bro. Mikey posts. He didn't start this thread and he hasn't built the device under question. His only real skill (if you want to call it a skill) is to insult people. I have realized over the years that when someone has to turn to insulting a person for asking questions it is almost always because they don't have any answers and try to chase you away with insults so you will quit asking questions they can't answer. They are not man enough to admit they may not know.

Please just continue with your analysis. I think you are pretty well on the mark as to what is actually going on.

Carroll

PS: Bro Mikey was right about one thing. He said your posts might look intelligent to some people. He is correct. Your post look intelligent to those of us that have actually made a living working in electronics and really understand what is going on. Thank you for your posts.

[Fjohnnyb]

While these posts may look to be highly intelligent to other people they are nothing but ramblings that show that you need some basic tutorials in science and electronics.

This replication is not something to hack into pieces to suit your whims so please leave these circuits in tact and build it as is, then if you are smart enough to make a change we will talk about, maybe.

There is no way to answer all of your demands for what will happen if you change this or IF you change that and all of the yelling in the world, at Clarence about what thinks IF you pull out all of the components is hardly going to give you any kind of sensible answer.

Please, you are only confusing yourselves to think you will out smart this system. Build it and and shake your head.

I'm curious as to what makes you such an expert BroMikey, please tell us. Have you built it? Seen it? Used it? Tested it? Or are you just very religiously taking Clarence's word for it?

You seem to have a lot to say about the matter so at least tell me why I should believe you.

[RAMSET]

dragon
Thank you for the reply.

Chet K

[dragon]

ferroresonance is a condition that occurs in a system where there is a non linear inductance in series with a capacitive link. If the system is being driven by a frequency, such as a 50/60 hz line, and the inductance shifts to a level that makes the capacitive link resonant then it creates a short circuit or a switch of sorts. This can cause high voltage conditions to occur and/or over current situations that can damage components.

When the current in the loop varies the inductance of the coil changes based on the saturation of the core. If the conditions are right this forms a resonant series LC in which case has only the resistance of the conductors to deter transfer - basically a dead short.

[RAMSET]

dragon
In your statement here
Quote
getting the current loop and earth to form a ferroresonant connection...
end Quote

can you define this a bit more ?? "ferroresonant connection"

respectfully
Chet K

[BroMikey]

Dragon your post didn't reveal any hidden solution to me yet but it did get my mind running over the circuit and a certain "lightbulb" moment emerged that might explain why Clarence's battery is charging slowly. Even if it is not the only reason it most definitely plays a part.

The battery charger is constantly charging the batteries but from those same battery terminals goes the power needed to run the inverter. So even with no other loads the charging power from the battery charger is still shared between the battery and the inverter running the circuit. That means that with the device turned off and the charger plugged into the mains the charging will always be faster.

Another thing to consider is Lead Acid batteries do not charge nearly as fast as they can discharge. A possible solution could be using more and larger batteries causing the charger to push more amps. Or finding a way to ultimately cut the battery out of the loop once the system is running would be ideal. In one of B&L's videos they power their device with a big UPS and once the return current from their device kicks in the batteries are completely out of the loop.

While these posts may look to be highly intelligent to other people they are nothing but ramblings that show that you need some basic tutorials in science and electronics.

This replication is not something to hack into pieces to suit your whims so please leave these circuits in tact and build it as is, then if you are smart enough to make a change we will talk about, maybe.

There is no way to answer all of your demands for what will happen if you change this or IF you change that and all of the yelling in the world, at Clarence about what he thinks will happen IF you pull out all of the components is hardly going to give you any kind of sensible answer.

Please, you are only confusing yourselves to think you will out smart this system. Build it and and shake your head.