Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[BroMikey]

No one is interested little DUH-WANE

[Dwane]

Not For Clarence to read!

Well, this little episode of checking credibilty has certainly upset Clarence. B and L has nothing to do with Don Smith of his offset toroids. Nothing could be further from the truth. All three systems based upon the notion of an offset, are more commonly known as Tesla's Asymetrical Transformer. Where it is possible to magnify the amplitude of an output using a split coil system. Intially, I think clarence moved from Overunity because they laughed at him, and kept having a go at him. Poor Clarence. It is easy to see why they didn't get on with him with his attitude. He just does not like being caught out!

Clarence has claimed that the error in the B and L patent was their avoidance of using toroids. Well, all Clarence was trying to do was muddy the waters. He might have understood what they were doing but it not suit his purpose, so he said the problem was the E transformer. Nothing could be further from the truth. If it does not suit his purpose, then he tries to ridiclue it, with his old fashioned blustering and insults.

Very professional!, Really very childish. However, the latest design using Don Smith's technique, "Allegedly" stolen from his account that was hacked, is theoretically very similar. Its just a matter of reorganising the offsets and coil specifications. So most likely that is what he was intending to do to get a greater increat of power and control over "His" circuit.

That's just briefly. However, being caught out, his buddy BRO, another chidish thread contributor, who posted the photos of the "New Design", removed them. Again, with much malice.

Both these contributors have failed to see the truth in this situation, and obviously do not care less. It was never my intention to create a disturbance, but as it is here, they will have to suck it up. And, especially in light of their petulant behaviour. It is because of their disregard to the facts, and attempts to conceal the intended alterations, that they have unwittingly boxed themselves into a corner.

It is now a matter of credibility for Clarence, who has listed me. So F..ing what? As if i care. This clever so and so also recently harassed another member. Clarence Likes the limelight. This thread is not about solving a Radiant Energy issue but, about Clarence tut tutting his way through to trying to solve a problem that has been well documented elsewhere.

One more issue. This thread is constanly being modified. As we speak, the Don is being cleansed from the system. errors are condtantly review to suit the current modification. Well, thats OK. Although, some might say they would have liked to work through the errors to understand why something was not working. I am personally of that view as it makes a thread all the more informative and educational. Over the past few days, there has been massive deletions and alterations so that Clarence and BRO can keep looking good. I'll have more to say about Brother BRO and his juvenile contributions later.

Tread your own path with care with this man, he is dangerous with his ignorance.

[Dwane]

Hello Clarence and BRO,

You will be pleased to know I have all the original pages before you "Cleaned " them. Nothing like the shrill of denials to promote distrust and the use of attack as being the best form of defense? There are only two tossers and a hacker (thief)here.

You might like to dwell on this quote "there are none so many truths that cannot be hidden". We will see!

If I were you Clarence I would own up admit it. This was the Don's work all along? Oh and as for leaving Overunity, they knew a thing or two there.

Have a good day

Dwane

[Dwane]

Yoo clever by half

Hello Clarence,
I liked the humour too. Just so we are clear This is what your BRO said -" Here are the first of the pictures Clarence may or may not put
up for those who might be interested. This is good work and good workmanship".

Still looks to me like you are copying the Maestro Don Smith? Are these the pictures you did not want anyone to see? While taking the Piss with your Mickey Mouse?

When you two tossers think you can take the Piss to try to cover up, you had better get ready.

Now Clarence and BRO, have a good day.


Dwane

[clarence]

Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
to that thread.

THANKS AGAIN BRO!

Loved the Last Humor Effect.
The thread needs a little humor at times.

Will now be working towards the post discussed. Hopefully everything goes
well enough to be worthwhile. Has taken a lot of thought and effort - time
tells all!

Respectfully,

Clarence

[clarence]

Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
to that thread.

Hello Bro,

Thanks for that BRO !
Appreciate it!

The BLACK BOX one needs to go too though - It was the High Frequency
Driver Unit for the vertical coils - so it is still out of context on this thread!

Thanks Again Bro!

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Hello Dwane,

ALL of the pictures and the posting of them was an unfortunate ACCIDENT

@ BroMikey:
BRO when you read this post PLEASE DELETE YOUR POST OF THOSE PHOTOS
FOR THE REASON MENTIONED! Thank you Sir!

Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
to that thread.

[Dwane]

Here are the first of the pictures Clarence may or may not put
up for those who might be interested. This is good work and good
workmanship.
















Happy building everyone

Hi Guys,
interesting thread. Pity about all the deleted information that might have been useful to someone coming in later. Ah well!

Anyway, if this is where you are up to with the Barbosa and Leal interpretation, you might just as well go and have a look at Don Smith's work. One of his devices looks a lot like the previously attached photos in the quote. There again, it might be that Barbosa and Leal have just reconfigured Tesla's asymetrical transformer, and it has been reverted back to its true design configuration.

Regards

Dwane

[clarence]

Hey old friend,
Sent you an e-mail today. Hope to get caught up here.

wantomake

Hey old Friend,

Sent you an E-mail Yesterday.
Trying to get finished on this end for later this weekend.

Clarence

[wantomake]

Email

Hey old friend,
Sent you an e-mail today. Hope to get caught up here.

wantomake

[JS5]

Thanks Clarence,

Nice test setup, you are rolling! Holding thumbs.
I eventually can start testing today also. Not as far with my setup as you are, but I will be learning a few things.

All your feedback helps to keep direction.

Regards

[clarence]

Hi Clarence,

Thank you for your persistence in testing and effort to get us all there. I was wondering about more turns around the toroid loop as I saw Nelson Rotcha did it that way. I will stay with the 4 loops then with my testing also. Thanks for the test info.

Hello JS5,

I decided to use only ONE turn around the toroid loop (actually would be 1 1/2) to keep the transformer effect in the step down mode to get the best usage
amps wise out of the induction process.

Also I use separate plug in circuits on the inverter to separate power being supplied to the toroid itself and the circuit power passing THROUGH the induction loop itself. that way I can use clamp on meter AND Kill-A-Watt
meter to visualize what is actually happening moment by moment.

I also keep track of the amp draw on the battery negative to the inverter.
That tells me whether the inverter is working in lazy mode or is really having to work like hell to get the job done.

at present I am just using a single 35 AH batt for the inverter supply instead of a large battery bank with a greater AH ability because I want to know
NOW in the short term!!!! When the short term is perfected needless to say
the Long term will take care of itself.

Also the info from BROMIKEY with respect to injecting the battery charging
THROUGH supercap banks paralleled across each of the batteries being charged ( active battery AND idle battery ) is great info!!!!
The supercap banks receive the ion flo - the battery gets the pulse.
BRO will correct me if I'm wrong.

Also it should be noted that my Xantrix Truecharge REQUIRES a 40 AH
battery minimum - I just barely skate by with the 35 AH batteries.
Works for now!

Hope all this helps J .

Best regards

Clarence

[JS5]

Hi Clarence,

Thank you for your persistence in testing and effort to get us all there. I was wondering about more turns around the toroid loop as I saw Nelson Rotcha did it that way. I will stay with the 4 loops then with my testing also. Thanks for the test info.

[clarence]

Thanks BRO,

I understood your Info!
Always love your input BRO!

Thanks again,

Clarence

[BroMikey]

Hello Clarence

Good testing, only a real rigger can appreciate a high amp handling
power switch made at home to swap out or reverse charge and run
system batteries.

Ions love to charge up going one way so this is a conservative approach.

The captor winding changes up to 64 turns opposes a transformer
winding ratio of far less potential difference. As any transformers turn
ration drops so does the voltage and so does the amps in most cases.

This is what we experiment for, we are looking for that tuning as others
have put it. As an example when John Bedini got me doing his ENERGIZERS
in the early 2000's, I began to look at batteries much more closely so let
me explain.

Not to go on for long yet look at the 12v battery. If my battery is being
tuned to a circuit for charging, that battery must have a certain voltage
above the 15v target so amps will move.

This is my best way of talking, somewhere between old school and one leg
up on something new at school. Many wave forms can show low amps as
compared to a normal charger that charge the battery better, why?

Because the voltage is somewhere between 30v and 100v with most of
the wave self adjusting to work with the battery to over come

PLATE RESISTANCE

Once plate resistance is looked at properly you look for ways to charge
a battery first most efficient and in some cases more than 100 percent.
Of course this is beyond the scope of our thread but if we charge and
discharge our batteries at the same time, the circuits appear obstinate
maybe a 20 percent charge conversion efficiency.

When conflict exists in the system instability rules and we are faced with
and endless set of anomalous patterns that throw off our investigation.
This is why John B. took us to the beginning of running power in and out
of batteries.

Now that you have eliminated this losing battle with ions you can get
a better picture in the developing investigation without kicking batteries
throwing your data off.

On one final note, keep looking for your desired effect and know this
that many other added changes will improve what you have also.

Together we will make experimenting great again.