Barbosa and Leal Devices - Info and Replication Details

[BroMikey]

Telluric currents

Telluric Currents and the Earth Battery | Non-Lexical Vocables

From Wiki;

Telluric current : Map (The Full Wiki)

http://www.earthinginstitute.net/wp-...ntial-2007.pdf

PAGE 4

Properties of the glob
al electrical circuit
The current in the global electrical circuit is only about 10
-12
amps (A) per square meter - almost
nothing
5
. During fair weather there is an electric
potential difference of 250,000 to 500,000 volts
between the ionosphere and the earth’s surface;
the surface is negative relative to the
ionosphere. It is estimated that this curr
ent (and the electric potential difference) would
disappear in less than an hour if
all thunderstorm activity ceased
13
.

[BroMikey]

Telluric currents

Telluric Currents and the Earth Battery | Non-Lexical Vocables

From Wiki;

Telluric current : Map (The Full Wiki)

http://www.efieldexploration.com/eds...Definition.pdf



The field varies in time and over the frequency range 0.001 to 5 Hz (Krasnogorskaja & Remizov,
1975). Electric potential gradients caused by telluric currents are of the order of 0.2 to 1000 volts per metre


. (Krasnogorskaja and Remizov (1975); Vanjan (1975)). At any location, the
current
density
is a direct
function
of the interhemispheric currents and their
potential gra
dients
. It has
been estimated that telluric currents overall during twelve hours in one hemisphere are in range
of 100 to 1000
amperes
. This intensity of telluric currents is sufficient to dr
ive the air movements
that create
atmospheric electricity
, from the global fair weather charge accumulator to
thunderstorm bases

[dragon]

Telluric currents

Telluric Currents and the Earth Battery | Non-Lexical Vocables

From Wiki;

Telluric current : Map (The Full Wiki)

[citfta]

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The Earth has a charge of about 500,000 volts and millions of AMPS through telluric currents, so why aren't we using it for power?

Bro. Mikey,

You posted an interesting video and made some pretty good comments and then destroyed your credibility with this statement. Why? Do you have any evidence at all that the earth has a charge of 500,000 volts? I am very sure you CAN get power from the earth because of my studies of Nathan Stubblefield. But I have never seen anyone claim the earth is charged with 500,000 volts. I do agree there are probably millions of amps flowing in the telluric currents only because of the sheer size of the earth.

Your statements like this one only serve to confuse those that don't know any better. Newcomers to this forum are going to accept statements like that as fact because they don't know you like to post wild speculations instead of facts. Your main contribution to this forums seems to be the desire to add a lot of unproven speculation which only adds to the confusion. If you want to post speculation then please make it clear that it IS speculation. We all like to theorize but you keep posting your ideas as if they were fact with nothing to back up your claims.

Carroll

[BroMikey]

Electricity from the Ground (My investigation into

the Barbosa and Leal Patent)



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2bi0h8vRwo[/VIDEO]



Published on Jul 31, 2015

In this video I investigate the Barbosa and Leal Patent #WO2013104042 "Electromagnetic Device for Capturing Electrons from the Ground to Generate Electricity" here is a link to the patent: https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/e...
Here is a link to "The Practical Guide to Free Energy Device.pdf" which also contains this patent on page 213: 404 Not Found...
This patent gave me a lot of food for thought. I've never seen a copper to copper induced electricity connection.

Ed Leedskalnin said that magnetism and electricity were part of the same force. The fact that you can induce electricity in the same way you can induce magnetism to me further proves Ed's assumption about electricity and magnetism.
Both coils were wound in the SAME directions in the video. However, Barbosa may have had them wound in reverse (I'm investigating this right now). I used the same gage 18 ga wire for everything except for that thick 4 ga wire around which I wound 18 ga ground connection. This ground connection is loosely wound around the 4 ga wire.

The Earth has a charge of about 500,000 volts and millions of AMPS through telluric currents, so why aren't we using it for power?

[djarno]

Djarno,
I will try to post some pictures if I can. Not sure what "holding the potential through the rod system" means. But the geomagnetics here is very high and I only have two rods input and four or five rods output. But, as I posted, I'm using two car coils instead of two toroid coils. Therefore my setup produces low amps.

Not sure of your setup so I can't help that much.
wantomake

I wounded an bi filer Tesla coil. Need to test multiple setups.
Occurred I didn't wind it ccw.....

Potential means voltage ⚡. I referred to the fact I on couple, but complete random, occasions pulled amps without giving amps only potential.

Try reading the pdf of Vladimir utkin or whatever it's named.
http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/VladimirUtkin.pdf
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Also my conclusion is that the toroid only activates the Electron loading through the ground BUT it's useless as it isn't holding the potential, voltage, and as someone mentioned before more rods is an monkey 🙈 job. Since I've seen the effect of pulling raw amperes from the ground I'm definitely not gonna hammer 🔨 more rods. While holding 228 voltage ofcourse.

It is definitely overunity but for me not yet controllable and seems ****ing random. Ugh

[wantomake]

Can you share pictures? Also are you.holding the potential through the rod system?

Also did it happen to you aswell that current drops potential stays but amps go back 🔙? can't get it replicated

Djarno,
I will try to post some pictures if I can. Not sure what "holding the potential through the rod system" means. But the geomagnetics here is very high and I only have two rods input and four or five rods output. But, as I posted, I'm using two car coils instead of two toroid coils. Therefore my setup produces low amps.

Not sure of your setup so I can't help that much.
wantomake

[djarno]

Hello to All,
The weather finally cooled a little here so I could test and upgrade a little on this setup.
With better connection of input and output wires, as well as getting the captor wound correctly, I was able to get a better run time this try.

The solar panels were disconnected. The battery bank was around 12 volts, but with the smart charger set at 12 amps, the bank pulled 7~8.3 amps and charged the bank to 13+ volts over two hours.
While the load was
2x 40 watt 4 ft long cfls
1x 13 watt cfl bulb
Smart charger.

Where I stopped the good run was when I changed the wire size wrapped around the captor. So will go back to original size wire.

When I can use two silicon steel toroidal cores instead of car coils, there will be more output I'm sure of it.

It takes time to understand this setup and the connections to get input and output amp readings so I can post them here.

The test run was 5 hours long with an increase of voltage on the battery bank. I did test to see if this load would pull down the voltage and it did without the captor.

Thanks Clarence for sharing this with us.
Bromikey, glad to see you up and around the forum. Hope you are feeling better.

wantomake

Can you share pictures? Also are you.holding the potential through the rod system?

Also did it happen to you aswell that current drops potential stays but amps go back 🔙? can't get it replicated

[wantomake]

happy and wondering

Hello to All,
The weather finally cooled a little here so I could test and upgrade a little on this setup.
With better connection of input and output wires, as well as getting the captor wound correctly, I was able to get a better run time this try.

The solar panels were disconnected. The battery bank was around 12 volts, but with the smart charger set at 12 amps, the bank pulled 7~8.3 amps and charged the bank to 13+ volts over two hours.
While the load was
2x 40 watt 4 ft long cfls
1x 13 watt cfl bulb
Smart charger.

Where I stopped the good run was when I changed the wire size wrapped around the captor. So will go back to original size wire.

When I can use two silicon steel toroidal cores instead of car coils, there will be more output I'm sure of it.

It takes time to understand this setup and the connections to get input and output amp readings so I can post them here.

The test run was 5 hours long with an increase of voltage on the battery bank. I did test to see if this load would pull down the voltage and it did without the captor.

Thanks Clarence for sharing this with us.
Bromikey, glad to see you up and around the forum. Hope you are feeling better.

wantomake

[djarno]

Please,
last question:
can this amps build works using the main??

Thanks so much!!

Best Regards
luc2010

Amp building occurs through the toroid short loop.

If you can push mains power through the ground, then yes. Here in the Netherlands we can't except if we use an inverter or an generator.

[tachyoncatcher]

Silicon Steel

Hello everybody.

I am trying to replicate Clarence's revision of the B&L device with no good results at the moment. If it is possible I would like Clarence to answer some questions, please.

Does the core have to be necessarily composed of ferrite? If it is not necessary, which material could be appropiate?

Must the core shape to be toroidal? Why or why not?

Thank you in advance.

Hello @daviniobb,
If you look back in the thread far enough, you will see the exact toroid transformers Clarence suggested. If you follow those links, you will find the toroids are made of silicon steel. a common material for 50-60Hz transformers. No ferrite.

Randy

[luc2010]

Amp building isn't unlimited.
The amp building does nothing. Because it isn't holding the potential thus the voltage. Unless you hammer, supposedly more, rods.

I somehow pulled the electrons, thus current aka amperage, from the ground with 8 copper rods.

I gonna try creating a short loop ➰ with the inverter. Of a simple light bulb then use the live wire, thus lussing it through, with neutral from the ground and vice versa. Should be like an Tesla coil with grounding from the ground. And potential from the Arial system. That is absent here since we have potential from the inverter.

Please,
last question:
can this amps build works using the main??

Thanks so much!!

Best Regards
luc2010

[djarno]

Hello All,

'' I must mention that I only amp building when the live wire is going halfway further out''?

Sir, can you explain this? Please

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

Amp building isn't unlimited.
The amp building does nothing. Because it isn't holding the potential thus the voltage. Unless you hammer, supposedly more, rods.

I somehow pulled the electrons, thus current aka amperage, from the ground with 8 copper rods.

I gonna try creating a short loop ➰ with the inverter. Of a simple light bulb then use the live wire, thus lussing it through, with neutral from the ground and vice versa. Should be like an Tesla coil with grounding from the ground. And potential from the Arial system. That is absent here since we have potential from the inverter.

[luc2010]

Hello All,

'' I must mention that I only amp building when the live wire is going halfway further out''?

Sir, can you explain this? Please

Thanks and Regards
luc2010

[djarno]

Hello everybody.

I am trying to replicate Clarence's revision of the B&L device with no good results at the moment. If it is possible I would like Clarence to answer some questions, please.

Does the core have to be necessarily composed of ferrite? If it is not necessary, which material could be appropiate?

Must the core shape to be toroidal? Why or why not?

Thank you in advance.

Toroidal better efficient. Although one is enough to test the principal. Two l melt my 25mm2 copper cable even with an voltage controller in front




Mikey after readying alot l found out l accidentally pulled electrons(current) out of the ground while giving only potential (voltage) that's why my amp meter dropped to practically zero.

The inverter is when direct connected 227 or 228 volt.

The 8 rods where enough to load 1500 watt heater at 220 volt therefore it gives atleast 3,3 ampere. I try to replicate the effect later today and record if it occurs. I'm really thrilled.