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  • tachyoncatcher
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    Originally posted by djarno View Post
    I don't have an copper connection clamp, but had an iron one.
    The clamp gets removed if I actually get it working, and solder it.
    @djarno, I cannot speak for Clarence, but normally on devices like this, there is a purpose for the clamps other than just connecting ends. Use the precise number of clamps Clarence has shown. I suspect steel clamps are fine. When you get it working, I would NOT solder the connections.

    Randy

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  • djarno
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    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Hello djarno,

    You have screwed up the secondary winding procedure and could burn up the wiring with a lot of amps.

    why people can think they are going to SAVE a connection clamp and still get the winding procedure correct is beyond me!!!!

    looking at the photo of your toroid setup - CUT the D--- top wire between the toroids so you can rewind the toroid on the LEFT side in the photo and make IT MATCH the toroid secondary winding as shown on the Right toroid!!!!!!!!!

    TRYING TO TAKE A SHORTCUT ----ALWAYS leads to a screwup!

    Clarence
    I don't have an copper connection clamp, but had an iron one.
    The clamp gets removed if I actually get it working, and solder it.

    I use copper cable, you use copper or aluminum ?

    Anyways yes, I exact replicated but saw the error when done, no problem I fix it later tomorrow when home.

    I'm going to connect the ground rods with 4x6MM ground cable. Bare burn and twist it 2 turns around each rod, counter clock wise.

    Clarence how deep are the rods in you're ground ? And whats the ground water level ? I'm here through the black soil like a little in the white (building) soil.

    Last edited by djarno; 06-20-2015, 03:40 PM.

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  • clarence
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    Wrong on secondary winding!!!!

    Hello djarno,

    You have screwed up the secondary winding procedure and could burn up the wiring with a lot of amps.

    why people can think they are going to SAVE a connection clamp and still get the winding procedure correct is beyond me!!!!

    looking at the photo of your toroid setup - CUT the D--- top wire between the toroids so you can rewind the toroid on the LEFT side in the photo and make IT MATCH the toroid secondary winding as shown on the Right toroid!!!!!!!!!

    TRYING TO TAKE A SHORTCUT ----ALWAYS leads to a screwup!

    Clarence

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  • clarence
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    Below Grass Surface on Rods

    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    I was thinking about putting my rods down so low so I could
    use the lawnmower over top of them, otherwise I will need to
    use the weed whip around each post. I like my idea, what do
    you think?
    Hello BroMikey,

    good to hear you!

    I actually pushed the top of all my 60 rods down into the earth 6 inches
    below the level of the grass in the affected areas just to be able to mow the lawn as you mentioned!
    I also taped EACH of their oval rod clamp connections with a peel strip refrigeration duct type tape so as to make certain no debris or corrosion
    could set in. I did not EVER want to go back and redo not even ONE of those buggers! that was a BEAST of a job!

    the info on the tape is HARDCAST - FOIL-GRIP 1402
    you can get it at AMAZON .com or at a local refrigeration supply co.

    I attached a photo of how I post holed down about a foot before I put the rods in.

    hope the info helps.

    Best & Respects

    Clarence
    Last edited by clarence; 03-26-2016, 04:12 PM.

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  • djarno
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    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Hello a.king21,

    my unit is still disassembled during my transition of it to the new nice plastic 24W / 37L/ 33H double tier shop cart.

    am just waiting for a couple of update components to come in from overseas.
    as usual time marches on at it's normal slow pace.
    have made an update to my series rod system as per B & L personal instruction to Fernando WAY BACK time wise ago when B & L gave him their demonstration.
    Will know the effect when its all back together!

    till then - thanks for your asking.

    as always, respects

    Clarence
    Clarence I didn't cross the cable.... Is that mandotary or ?


    Final;


    Anyways, clarence the ground setup has 'only' 9 rods. Although, if the concept works, I should be able to measure over unity right ?

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  • djarno
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    I was thinking about putting my rods down so low so I could
    use the lawnmower over top of them, otherwise I will need to
    use the weed whip around each post. I like my idea, what do
    you think?
    Well I have to put it into the ground because in the grass area (don't know english term) the horses eat the grass.

    If I would let it open, besides the risk of power going through they also can destroy it.

    I have it like 15 CM below ground level, and I recommend you to do the same, if not deeper. I think I readed somewhere in tesla's patent in an good ground connection as possible and by that they ment as 'deep' as.

    If the rods seem to work. but it isn't getting enough power I actually try to tap an extra copper pipe per, and go deeper for another 3M.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by djarno View Post
    Fml I got 9 copper rods of 12MM....

    I try to find how long rods they put into the ground.
    I was thinking about putting my rods down so low so I could
    use the lawnmower over top of them, otherwise I will need to
    use the weed whip around each post. I like my idea, what do
    you think?

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  • djarno
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    Got 25MM copper cable for toroids loop;


    Got 9 copper rods 3 meter into the ground (past the black soil into the white soil);


    9x9 grid, the one in the center was stuck. Couldn't get it further with water hose. Not even with water ground pomp. Hitted it with the hammer, its like 2.6M into the ground currently.


    Got everything, gonna connect the ground rods with 3x 6MM wire COUNTER clock wise, bare twisted around each rod.

    Amp meter check, 6.5KW power supply (gasoline generator) and ofcourse wall power.

    Hmm tommorow.

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  • djarno
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    vid of the generator running life in some (chop?) shop in brazil.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/m9JIqk...de=transparent

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  • level
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    Originally posted by djarno View Post
    For the ground loop I could also combine cable right ?
    F.e. use an multiple core cable till its equal to 4 AWG wire size ? (since I have it laying around).
    Well, only Barbosa and Leal can say for sure, but that may well be fine. The most important thing would be to have a very low resistance electrical connection where you connect the two ends of the loop together. Even just a tiny resistance at high current can consume a fair amount of power.

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  • djarno
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    For the ground loop I could also combine cable right ?

    F.e. use an multiple core cable till its equal to 4 AWG wire size ? (since I have it laying around).

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  • djarno
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    Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
    Here is a simple experiment that shows these slugs at
    over-unity couldn't find their heads if they used both hands.

    So many people pop in one day and never to be seen
    again showing something but what?

    Look at how simple it is to get extra energy FROM THE GROUND.

    No toroid, no nothing, just a rod and wire.

    In this video the power supply shows any increase
    or decrease of amps at the bank of lights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAxUJODVMfY


    I gonna make it so, that if the desired pipes don't give the wanted result I simply tap wire onto the pipes and screw one right on top and go 6 meter deep.

    I think that works better then actually getting a larger grid.

    Time will tell.

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by djarno View Post
    I referred to the past. But yes, I gonna try now.

    Pipes go tomorrow.
    Here is a simple experiment that shows these slugs at
    over-unity couldn't find their heads if they used both hands.

    So many people pop in one day and never to be seen
    again showing something but what?

    Look at how simple it is to get extra energy FROM THE GROUND.

    No toroid, no nothing, just a rod and wire.

    In this video the power supply shows any increase
    or decrease of amps at the bank of lights.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAxUJODVMfY


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  • djarno
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    Originally posted by level View Post
    No one is trying to discourage you from doing tests. You asked for some links regarding Ariovaldo's comments on his tests.
    Be very careful if you are going to test with this. 120V or 220V can potentially kill you if you touch a live wire, whether it is from the mains or an inverter.
    I referred to the past. But yes, I gonna try now.

    Pipes go tomorrow.

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  • level
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    Originally posted by djarno View Post
    Thanks I suppose. I gonna read all the comments in that topic at OU.

    I was signed up there and asked several serious questions regarding floyd sweet, toroids and stuff. People either ignored is sed impossible.

    They indirectly holded me back. Going through with this
    No one is trying to discourage you from doing tests. You asked for some links regarding Ariovaldo's comments on his tests.
    Be very careful if you are going to test with this. 120V or 220V can potentially kill you if you touch a live wire, whether it is from the mains or an inverter.
    Last edited by level; 06-16-2015, 04:53 PM.

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