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    Originally posted by clarence View Post
    Wantomake,

    Checked coil continuity and was good.
    Checked coil ohms and was 2.9 ohms - the unit Arivaldo broke down
    and made measurements on years back - his coil ohm reading was 3 ohms
    with 600 turns so don't see any earth shaking difference in that.
    Checked the coils inductance reading and it was .154 Henry .
    The Arivaldo unit was .21 Henry and B&L told him it should be tween .060
    to .080 Henry. The difference in all is due to the particular metal and shape and dimensions of the core - mine is somewhere in the middle so I'm not
    upset about that reading either.

    When I started to set the toroid unit in place to get my whole unit ready for testing I saw that I will have stabilize and strengthen the input and output
    leads with # 10 wire and strong heat shrink tube cause the 20 AWG mag wire wont handle much abuse for sure.

    A lot more other daily needs and farm work have priority right now so testing and results will take back seat at present.

    Till Later,

    Clarence
    Clarence,
    Will post all these readings as soon as I can. Need to wrap the toroid and see what happens.

    So we are pulsing low voltage dc or hv dc. Do need to test and find out. I guess the same setup as before using the ground grid input and output.

    I totally have so many life things holding me back also. Really is easiest to stay in experimental mindset and continue building day to day. That's why I keep notes. I must to not repeat myself.

    Still at it,
    wantomake

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    • Information

      Originally posted by wantomake View Post
      Clarence,
      Will post all these readings as soon as I can. Need to wrap the toroid and see what happens.

      So we are pulsing low voltage dc or hv dc. Do need to test and find out. I guess the same setup as before using the ground grid input and output.

      I totally have so many life things holding me back also. Really is easiest to stay in experimental mindset and continue building day to day. That's why I keep notes. I must to not repeat myself.

      Still at it,
      wantomake
      Wantomake,

      Your main work right now is to get the 660 turns on the toroid core. Do not attempt to get in a hurry with it - it will teach you how to do it as you go.
      And please..please..at the 330 turn point DO NOT FAIL TO MAKE THE SMALL
      LOOP IN THE WIRE at that point !!! I have not elaborated on that as yet
      but it is/and will be very important.
      Some people might say that they don't see any thing like that in previous photo views of the actual wound toroid coil built by Barbosa & leal (referring to the Arivaldo tear down photos). ........ Well it IS THERE LOOKING
      THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!! It is also referred to indirectly by Barbosa
      & Leal In their Sales Demo presentation wording in the TRANSLATION LINK
      INFO I sent to you by E-mail. More on that latter when it becomes appropriate.

      Also forget about the pulsing of DC voltage for now.
      Have Spent the Last week and more going back and documenting all the steps and components needed and involved in the Initial start up and
      subsequent full time running of the unit as a complete system.
      It is totally different than most believe.
      I will send you an e-mail late tonight or tomorrow night showing a complete
      number by number outline of the steps involved in an Initial thru Full time
      run outline.
      When you get it save and print it.

      Also their is no input and output to the ground rod system. The voltage that is in the earth is ALREADY there - this system only DRAWS it out.
      (Translation Statement in the Thumbnail)

      As you said brother - no time for dilly or dally (time wasting twins).

      Clarence
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      • Outstanding !!!

        Originally posted by clarence View Post
        Wantomake,

        Your main work right now is to get the 660 turns on the toroid core. Do not attempt to get in a hurry with it - it will teach you how to do it as you go.
        And please..please..at the 330 turn point DO NOT FAIL TO MAKE THE SMALL
        LOOP IN THE WIRE at that point !!! I have not elaborated on that as yet
        but it is/and will be very important.
        Some people might say that they don't see any thing like that in previous photo views of the actual wound toroid coil built by Barbosa & leal (referring to the Arivaldo tear down photos). ........ Well it IS THERE LOOKING
        THEM RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!! It is also referred to indirectly by Barbosa
        & Leal In their Sales Demo presentation wording in the TRANSLATION LINK
        INFO I sent to you by E-mail. More on that latter when it becomes appropriate.

        Also forget about the pulsing of DC voltage for now.
        Have Spent the Last week and more going back and documenting all the steps and components needed and involved in the Initial start up and
        subsequent full time running of the unit as a complete system.
        It is totally different than most believe.
        I will send you an e-mail late tonight or tomorrow night showing a complete
        number by number outline of the steps involved in an Initial thru Full time
        run outline.
        When you get it save and print it.

        Also their is no input and output to the ground rod system. The voltage that is in the earth is ALREADY there - this system only DRAWS it out.
        (Translation Statement in the Thumbnail)

        As you said brother - no time for dilly or dally (time wasting twins).

        Clarence
        Clarence,
        Yes I will start the winding today. Finally got the wire in. I do have everything we email on my tablet. So can refer back to your notes.

        I can't see that in those photos either, but those tear down photos are hard to make out to me.

        I've always thought this system draws out energy from mother earth as I look at it.

        Will focus on steps before me and will keep eye out for your E this evening or tomorrow.

        At work so can't post much. Those twins always get me in trouble.......
        wantomake

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        • Take a look at the yellow circles

          Originally posted by wantomake View Post
          Clarence,
          Yes I will start the winding today. Finally got the wire in. I do have everything we email on my tablet. So can refer back to your notes.

          I can't see that in those photos either, but those tear down photos are hard to make out to me.

          I've always thought this system draws out energy from mother earth as I look at it.

          Will focus on steps before me and will keep eye out for your E this evening or tomorrow.

          At work so can't post much. Those twins always get me in trouble.......
          wantomake
          Wantomake,

          In the two thumbnails below the yellow circles show the coil connections
          to the # 20 mag wire of their coil. one set of connections used spiral
          twist lock connectors and the other set was solder with black heat shrink.

          No biggy but things are there if you know what to look for.
          Best wishes on the winding brother.

          Later,

          Clarence
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          • Pic

            Clarence,
            This is the first layer. All I can do for now.

            IMG_0600.JPG

            wantomake
            PS: Really want to finish this. Only got 260 turns on first layer. But did make the loop at the end. Will look at your pics you just posted.
            Last edited by wantomake; 05-13-2017, 12:33 AM.

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            • Originally posted by clarence View Post
              Wantomake,

              In the two thumbnails below the yellow circles show the coil connections
              to the # 20 mag wire of their coil. one set of connections used spiral
              twist lock connectors and the other set was solder with black heat shrink.

              No biggy but things are there if you know what to look for.
              Best wishes on the winding brother.

              Later,

              Clarence
              Clarence,
              What I see in that pic of the coil is several bifilar wires. Across on the other side of the coil. Enlarge the picture and you can see them. Opposite the place you circled.

              Or my eyes are bad,
              wantomake

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              • That is a bifilar connection

                Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                Clarence,
                What I see in that pic of the coil is several bifilar wires. Across on the other side of the coil. Enlarge the picture and you can see them. Opposite the place you circled.

                Or my eyes are bad,
                wantomake
                Wantomake ,

                That IS a bifilar connection of TWQ wires.
                That is the mid point of their 660 turns this - is why
                you need to make the loop I told you about. Later the loop will be cut and the bifilar connections made involving the start an finish ends of the whole coil.

                PLEASE NOTE that the LOOP must be made at MID POINT!!!! Which is 330
                TURNS - NOT 206 turns!!!!
                Do not be concerned WHERE THE LOOP IS LOCATED! That is immaterial.

                Thanks,

                Clarence

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                • Originally posted by clarence View Post
                  Wantomake ,

                  That IS a bifilar connection of TWQ wires.
                  That is the mid point of their 660 turns this - is why
                  you need to make the loop I told you about. Later the loop will be cut and the bifilar connections made involving the start an finish ends of the whole coil.

                  PLEASE NOTE that the LOOP must be made at MID POINT!!!! Which is 330
                  TURNS - NOT 206 turns!!!!
                  Do not be concerned WHERE THE LOOP IS LOCATED! That is immaterial.

                  Thanks,

                  Clarence
                  Clarence,
                  So I start layer #2 in opposite direction until I get to 330 turns, then make loop there ? Then continue winding back and forth until 660 turns?

                  My first layer was 260 turns not 206.
                  wantomake

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                  • Reason for bifilar connection

                    Wantomake,

                    Even though this coil will only be pulsed by DC VOLTAGE - It is necessary to have the voltage characteristic KILLED in order to leave ONLY THE AMPERAGE
                    characteristic still available!
                    It is called removing the LENZ effect (BEMF) from the coil circuit.
                    In the Translation dialogue of the Demo they made they referred to it as
                    "BREAK THE RESISTANCE" and enable them to have higher amperage output by their devices.

                    Did not intend to get into all the discussion now but Cat's out of the bag
                    so might as well get it on.

                    What other questions you got That I might answer? I'm Ready.

                    BTW: you do some NICE WINDING yourself !!!!

                    Thanks,

                    Clarence
                    Last edited by clarence; 05-13-2017, 02:20 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                      Clarence,
                      So I start layer #2 in opposite direction until I get to 330 turns, then make loop there ? Then continue winding back and forth until 660 turns?

                      My first layer was 260 turns not 206.
                      wantomake
                      Wantomake,


                      Yep! MY BAD on the numbers but yes - continue on till the 330 and then make the loop.

                      As I said in the BTW you do some nice winding brother!
                      Hope it gets easier for you!
                      When you get thru with all turns - might as well do the bifilar connecting
                      before final Lead make up!
                      When you reach the 660 turns position (wherever it winds up) please leave
                      enough extra wire length to get back to the loop position and be able to
                      make a solder connection (best way). Probably add heat shrink for EXTRA
                      insulation (I think that that was what the orange looking stuff was?)

                      Thanks,

                      Clarence
                      Last edited by clarence; 05-13-2017, 02:52 AM.

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                      • Ready to install

                        Wantomake,


                        Made the Bifilar connections and the lead connections.
                        Ready to install.

                        How Ya doin?

                        Later,

                        Clarence
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                        • Originally posted by clarence View Post
                          Wantomake,


                          Made the Bifilar connections and the lead connections.
                          Ready to install.

                          How Ya doin?

                          Later,

                          Clarence
                          Clarence,
                          Somebody's burning midnight oil !! Looks too good to use. I'm very excited to see what happens.

                          Just coffeeing my brains awake planning the day. If I get home early am, will finish core by this afternoon.

                          So you connected the core series bifilar. Very interesting.

                          wantomake

                          Will you make the big reveal here or by e-mail?

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                          • Finished the core

                            Clarence,
                            Just finished winding the core. I sent you an e-mail with pictures cause my brains and hands are tired and don't want to post pictures here tonight.

                            Got 3.8 ohms on it. My core is longer at 2" so more wire. It worked out good with the 660 turns and bifilar series connected.

                            Will try to post pictures tomorrow but will be very busy with it being Mother's Day and all.

                            wantomake

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                            • BIG pot of coffee

                              Originally posted by clarence
                              Wantomake,

                              Yep - right on! bigger core / more wire used = more ohms!
                              Glad you made the bifilar connect too!

                              You better wait till after Mom's Day and have a full pot of coffee ready
                              before reading the setup/install information E-mail I sent you!
                              Busy is a word that doesn't quite cover it here.

                              Best!

                              Clarence
                              Clarence,

                              Yea I saw that setup/install information last night while having a single brewski I found hiding in the frig.

                              I had to take a double swallow to read it. Haha.

                              But still I want to install this monster core today, if I have the equipment and brains to do that later this evening.

                              To All who are mom's or have one Happy Mother's Day.

                              wantomake

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                              • hello
                                I have a question, maybe somebody here could answer me.
                                I am not electrician but I am trying to understand this circuit that clarence mentioned.
                                My doubt is if this is overunity? and which is the C.O.P. of this one
                                also I do not know if you have already seen this video in youtube:
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

                                could you please tell me if that circuit is equal or works like the one of clarence?
                                thanks in advance. I hope to hear from you.
                                best regardds

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