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  • Originally posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    hello
    I have a question, maybe somebody here could answer me.
    I am not electrician but I am trying to understand this circuit that clarence mentioned.
    My doubt is if this is overunity? and which is the C.O.P. of this one
    also I do not know if you have already seen this video in youtube:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

    could you please tell me if that circuit is equal or works like the one of clarence?
    thanks in advance. I hope to hear from you.
    best regardds
    Franklin,
    The video is in Spanish, which I don't speak. But the schematic he shows is from the patent that I've tried and got no COP. But at that time didn't understand the patent. Been trying different setups and tests with Clarence help to understand it better.

    But Clarence is the best builder to answer here not me.
    Just my two cents worth,
    wantomake

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    • No help making bifilar connection

      Originally posted by wantomake View Post
      Clarence,
      Just finished winding the core. I sent you an e-mail with pictures cause my brains and hands are tired and don't want to post pictures here tonight.

      Got 3.8 ohms on it. My core is longer at 2" so more wire. It worked out good with the 660 turns and bifilar series connected.

      Will try to post pictures tomorrow but will be very busy with it being Mother's Day and all.

      wantomake
      Wantomake,

      Tried the New core by itself with the bifilar connection used as such.

      Was not a good help at all - so will undo that type of connection and
      and proceed with the core as just a series wound unit and go from there.

      Later

      Clarence

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      • All is good

        Clarence,
        Just re-connected to series winding. Tested and all is good. Not enough time to get any numbers had to take wife to work.

        More later,
        wantomake

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        • Captor?

          Clarence,
          Good. Can't sit by and do nothing. So have been testing different ideas on the basic setup. 12 volts DC pulsing with a dc MY1016 motor on one connecting wires. I read 11 amps ac on the loop.

          But mostly trying to understand how to extract earth energy with the loop. I think that's the part left out of the patent cause without this method all of the rest is a waste of time. It's nothing more than a transformer with a large wire as secondary but connected back on itself to form a loop. If myself as the dummy in electronics can see that, and there are many YouTube videos showing transforming part but nothing on "extracting" the energy.

          I've recorded 200+ amps down to 11 amps on that loop. We wrap the end of a ground wire around a portion of the loop. Nothing. Why?

          I can place a 12" long galvanized nail in the ground, then place a copper pipe same size a few feet away. Then connect a capacitor between them and the cap extracts energy from the ground. Why can't I create that same effect on a larger scale?

          I have a better understanding now that effect is called "negative" drawing of electrons. Loop is called an electron captor. Is it really just one half of a large capacitor and must figure out how the other half of it. The ion or electron half.

          Sorry just some of my musings this coffee session of the morning,
          wantomake

          If anyone has a solid way to "extract" energy with the loop or electron captor please do share here.

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          • Try it again

            Clarence,
            I think I have tried that . Don't remember but will try again. My loop wire is not that large. I got the largest size Lowe's had.

            I'll try ac and dc both. Never hurts.

            wantomake

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            • Tried it

              Originally posted by clarence
              Wantomake,

              Do this and see what happens.
              Clarence,
              Connected to the captor like the picture in many different ways but still nothing to crow about.

              Still trying and waiting ,
              wantomake

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              • Watching with interest

                While you guys are way past me in understanding and experience, I continue to follow with great interest. I got my toroid loop setup about the time that you discovered it wasn't needed I haven't put any ground rods in yet. Clarence, with your latest research, how many do you think are still needed? I look forward to your posts and progress. Keep up the good work. If there's anything you need, I'll be glad to help out if I can.

                Thanks!

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                • Originally posted by digits10 View Post
                  While you guys are way past me in understanding and experience, I continue to follow with great interest. I got my toroid loop setup about the time that you discovered it wasn't needed I haven't put any ground rods in yet. Clarence, with your latest research, how many do you think are still needed? I look forward to your posts and progress. Keep up the good work. If there's anything you need, I'll be glad to help out if I can.

                  Thanks!
                  Hello digits10,

                  It's been a long silence because there have been many efforts with trials , tests and failures, revamps and such that need not and were not made
                  public to save all others from false efforts that would indeed have been discouraging.
                  At last have weeded out all the no-no's and am in process of constructing
                  a hopefully correct wound toroid to match B&L design. Process will not be through and tests for use-ability made until around June 1st or so.
                  So just hang in there and check in around that time and see if there is anything new.

                  Appreciate your interest and support but my desire is to make it worth your while without non-productive efforts.

                  Thanks for your thoughts,

                  Clarence

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                  • two videos from hibridor channel

                    hello I have not noticed that clarence had already answer my question in one post before.... jeje

                    just in some case somebody want to see this video.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zf4V-85FgE&t=153s

                    regards
                    franklin
                    Last edited by FRANKLIN; 05-30-2017, 08:12 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by FRANKLIN
                      Hello Clarence
                      I heard that you have replicated sucessfully the barbosa and leal device
                      but I do not know if you have seen this video in youtube, there is a guy called wilson roa from the hibridor channel. he shows a replication of the device just using a toroid transofrmer, a bridge rectifier and a capacitor with the closed blucle. I do not know if you have any comments about it.
                      this is the link:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

                      have a good day
                      Franklin,
                      I'm not sure what is his power source if he's not connecting the neutral wire. I don't speak Spanish so just going on his schematic.

                      Just my thoughts.

                      Clarence will give you a better answer here than I can.

                      wantomake
                      I noticed you edited your post as I was typing.
                      Last edited by wantomake; 05-30-2017, 08:24 PM.

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                      • Values

                        fer123,
                        Sorry for not posting lately. Clarence(mostly) and I have tried different core windings to get it right.

                        We have a question from your previous post about Ariovaldos purchase and trial of his unit.

                        The 660 turns of the core with # 20 AWG wire, what was the inductance value and resistance value? If you remember it would help.

                        Thanks so much. Hope all is well for you.

                        wantomake

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                        • Toroid info.

                          Hello Wantomake the picture from ariovaldo was post number 1310 by clarence that the info he share, but 2 things ring my bell first time he says the toroid had 600 turns a few post after somebody question that and he says the toroid had 60 more turns a total of 660 , second barbosa says to him the inductance should have 0.6h to 0.8h. This is the info I have at hand. We keep in touch.

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                          • Toroid info.

                            You are sharp.
                            Yes, the coil had more than one connection, but my assumption was that is not so easy to winding by hand 660 turns in a toroid, so this was done in parts. It was connect in series anyway. Different sizes of wire? Yes, 60 turns with a 20 AWG magnetic wire….

                            Cheers
                            Last edited by fer123; 06-02-2017, 05:38 PM.

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                            • Message

                              Originally posted by fer123 View Post
                              Hello Wantomake the picture from ariovaldo was post number 1310 by clarence that the info he share, but 2 things ring my bell first time he says the toroid had 600 turns a few post after somebody question that and he says the toroid had 60 more turns a total of 660 , second barbosa says to him the inductance should have 0.6h to 0.8h. This is the info I have at hand. We keep in touch.
                              Hello fer123

                              I sent you a PM.
                              Hope you will read and answer - please.

                              Thanks Sir,

                              Clarence

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                              • Thanks

                                Originally posted by fer123 View Post
                                You are sharp.
                                Yes, the coil had more than one connection, but my assumption was that is not so easy to winding by hand 660 turns in a toroid, so this was done in parts. It was connect in series anyway. Different sizes of wire? Yes, 60 turns with a 20 AWG magnetic wire….

                                Cheers
                                Hello fe123,

                                Thanks for the reply!
                                Will keep in touch also.

                                Clarence

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