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  • Originally posted by Vinyasi
    The two sets of steel grounding rods must be
    close enough to electrostatically “feel” each other to register a
    voltage difference between them. And there must be a strong
    enough geomagnetic field flowing between them to “blow out” a
    ny chance for arcing to occur which could neutralize their voltage
    difference. A dry soil will also help in this regard.

    But it is their difference in mass, alone, which conveys this
    voltage difference between them acquired, not from the Earth,
    but from their magneto-motive reactions to the oscillations built
    up between them originating from within the circuit of Barbosa
    and Leal. It is this circuit which is the source of oscillations
    throughout its entire design manifesting in all of its parts not
    the least of which lies between these two sets of grounding
    rods.

    Geomagnetism merely prevents obliteration of voltage between
    these two sets of rods. It does not supply them anything other
    than immunity from decay.

    An analogy exists from within Richard Hackenberger's last edition of
    the EV Gray motor according to its assessment by Mark McKay.

    Compressed air (analogous to the flow of geomagnetism) was forced
    through the interior of the EV Gray motor to prevent arcing between
    the aluminum chassis (lined on its interior surface with Teflon) and
    the aluminum supports underneath the rotor/stator coils. These
    aluminum supports were insulated from their immediate surroundings
    so as to become dielectrically isolated from all other parts of the motor (including the chassis whose voltage potential just happened to be in opposition to these inner support pieces). Yet, it was the electrostatic
    field surrounding the rotor and stator coils which fed the polarizing
    charge built up among these inner supports and the chassis of the
    motor so long as sufficient air kept blowing in through this motor's
    interior to prevent arcing and an elimination of electrostatic charge
    existing between the chassis and these aluminum supports. This
    electrostatic field contributed to the motor's overunity performance
    as an oscillatory response to this motor's operation. This response did
    not go unnoticed by the motor's output despite a lack of direct
    connection between these two “floating” capacitor plates and the
    circuitry of the motor.

    The Electric Keeper of B&L has to be driven by something. The
    contribution of voltage supplied by the AC Sinewave Inverter is one
    source. But the Earth is not the other. The Earth merely provides
    isolation so that an electrostatic buildup can occur among the two
    sets of grounding rods: isolation via a dry soil, but most importantly
    isolation between two differing masses of ferromagnetizable material possessing a potential difference of magneto-motive force (not to be confused with electro-motive force although this latter will be the
    end result).

    Tesla used magnetic fields to quench a spark gap. The Earth, here,
    does the same.

    Now that I've contributed my assessment, you may delete them all. Good-bye!

    Good Bye to you also, but before we part let me suggest something to
    you if I may. It is bad manners to steal documents just because you
    are able and then joke about it in an insulting way to the one you took
    them from, knowing it would be against his will in an effort to belittle.

    Further you are not sorry but think it is a cute display of your dazzling
    abilities just like this post where we can all see how smart you must be
    being such a deep thinker.

    We have no short supply of super intellect here only those who have
    the time to do the work. Your good bye emotional out burst as a way
    to turn your status to victim is nothing new either.

    We are all glad you are a super thinker and wish you well tho another
    long post on theoretical jargon is nothing more than rubble to the
    working man.

    Good Day.

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    • Good riddens

      Hope he is gone now, then we can follow this thread without the mostly duplicated blabber in-between.

      My one toroid Clarence-replicated captor loop survived switch-on. Will start testing with loads this week.

      Thank you for the email details Clarence sir!

      God bless!
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      Last edited by JS5; 01-29-2017, 05:15 PM. Reason: Adding photo

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      • Originally posted by clarence
        BRO MIKEY,

        Nicely done Sir!

        For all of BlunderDog's intelligence he still is not smart enough to
        understand how forum posting and deleting works on this site.
        Seems he can't understand that posts can only be deleted BY THE ONE WHO MADE THEM or by the forum Administrator/Moderator !!!!
        Hopefully he will see information I have stated and bless us all by deleting them himself as he said he was willing for this to happen.
        Then he can return to his own thread and remain there. HOPE SO!

        Thank you again BRO,

        Clarence
        Hello BRO,

        Finally finished and ran the system with the improvements of the Supercap banks as the lead receiver of the charge voltage from the Batt charger prior to the battery itself.

        The draw on the battery this time was 10.6 amps (a lot I believe).
        used my 3000 watt Aims inverter - others were too beat up to use any more.
        the toroid didn't perform at all this time - It's amp was 112.9-113 amps.
        It remained the same reading all the time.
        Last time I had 8 #10 AWG turns around the mid of the toroid loop
        and it showed it was furnishing amperage by induction to those eight turns.
        this time I had stepped it up to 64 wraps and it didn't give up anything.
        Evidently more is not better. Will drop to just 4 wraps over the weekend
        and see what happens going with less.

        This time I had two batteries being charged at the same by the Xantrix charger (specs say it can do three at a time !) One was used for the test
        and the other was idle while being charged ( not connected to anything
        except it's own supercap parallel to battery leads from charger.
        Took only about 4 minutes to charge it from 12.2 to 14.3 ready to go.

        The charger and a 100 watt CFL were self looped back to the charging of both separate batteries.
        The run was shorter this time because it had no help from the large wire toroid unit.
        Still the run was long enough coupled with the fast enough charge of the idle battery to convince me that a 24/7 hour option is possible - all at 60 Hz.
        To accomplish that it would just be necessary to switch the idle battery into service and the being used battery out of service. the out of service battery still has its own incoming charge since it is already connected to the charging circuit and would only take about 4 minutes to be ready to go again.
        I have located a Make..then Brake battery switch that is made and designed for just this purpose to switch batteries UNDERLOAD so as not to interrupt service and without damage to normal components the inverter is powering.

        The switch I will order will be in by late next week and I will build that
        system to make use of it.

        Be mindful that this is a MANUAL switch. It will have to be updated with a

        timer/servo control to make it automatic for the end user.

        Still lots to do but that's better than sitting on a dead ass twiddling thumbs.
        No jpg pics at this time - nothing worth the effort.

        thanks for listening BRO,


        Clarence

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        • Hello Clarence

          Good testing, only a real rigger can appreciate a high amp handling
          power switch made at home to swap out or reverse charge and run
          system batteries.

          Ions love to charge up going one way so this is a conservative approach.

          The captor winding changes up to 64 turns opposes a transformer
          winding ratio of far less potential difference. As any transformers turn
          ration drops so does the voltage and so does the amps in most cases.

          This is what we experiment for, we are looking for that tuning as others
          have put it. As an example when John Bedini got me doing his ENERGIZERS
          in the early 2000's, I began to look at batteries much more closely so let
          me explain.

          Not to go on for long yet look at the 12v battery. If my battery is being
          tuned to a circuit for charging, that battery must have a certain voltage
          above the 15v target so amps will move.

          This is my best way of talking, somewhere between old school and one leg
          up on something new at school. Many wave forms can show low amps as
          compared to a normal charger that charge the battery better, why?

          Because the voltage is somewhere between 30v and 100v with most of
          the wave self adjusting to work with the battery to over come


          PLATE RESISTANCE

          Once plate resistance is looked at properly you look for ways to charge
          a battery first most efficient and in some cases more than 100 percent.
          Of course this is beyond the scope of our thread but if we charge and
          discharge our batteries at the same time, the circuits appear obstinate
          maybe a 20 percent charge conversion efficiency.

          When conflict exists in the system instability rules and we are faced with
          and endless set of anomalous patterns that throw off our investigation.
          This is why John B. took us to the beginning of running power in and out
          of batteries.

          Now that you have eliminated this losing battle with ions you can get
          a better picture in the developing investigation without kicking batteries
          throwing your data off.

          On one final note, keep looking for your desired effect and know this
          that many other added changes will improve what you have also.

          Together we will make experimenting great again.

          Last edited by BroMikey; 02-01-2017, 09:36 PM.

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          • Thanks BRO,

            I understood your Info!
            Always love your input BRO!

            Thanks again,

            Clarence
            Last edited by clarence; 02-18-2017, 11:14 AM.

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            • Hi Clarence,

              Thank you for your persistence in testing and effort to get us all there. I was wondering about more turns around the toroid loop as I saw Nelson Rotcha did it that way. I will stay with the 4 loops then with my testing also. Thanks for the test info.

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              • Originally posted by JS5 View Post
                Hi Clarence,

                Thank you for your persistence in testing and effort to get us all there. I was wondering about more turns around the toroid loop as I saw Nelson Rotcha did it that way. I will stay with the 4 loops then with my testing also. Thanks for the test info.
                Hello JS5,

                I decided to use only ONE turn around the toroid loop (actually would be 1 1/2) to keep the transformer effect in the step down mode to get the best usage
                amps wise out of the induction process.

                Also I use separate plug in circuits on the inverter to separate power being supplied to the toroid itself and the circuit power passing THROUGH the induction loop itself. that way I can use clamp on meter AND Kill-A-Watt
                meter to visualize what is actually happening moment by moment.

                I also keep track of the amp draw on the battery negative to the inverter.
                That tells me whether the inverter is working in lazy mode or is really having to work like hell to get the job done.

                at present I am just using a single 35 AH batt for the inverter supply instead of a large battery bank with a greater AH ability because I want to know
                NOW in the short term!!!! When the short term is perfected needless to say
                the Long term will take care of itself.

                Also the info from BROMIKEY with respect to injecting the battery charging
                THROUGH supercap banks paralleled across each of the batteries being charged ( active battery AND idle battery ) is great info!!!!
                The supercap banks receive the ion flo - the battery gets the pulse.
                BRO will correct me if I'm wrong.

                Also it should be noted that my Xantrix Truecharge REQUIRES a 40 AH
                battery minimum - I just barely skate by with the 35 AH batteries.
                Works for now!

                Hope all this helps J .

                Best regards

                Clarence

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                • Thanks Clarence,

                  Nice test setup, you are rolling! Holding thumbs.
                  I eventually can start testing today also. Not as far with my setup as you are, but I will be learning a few things.

                  All your feedback helps to keep direction.

                  Regards

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                  • Email

                    Hey old friend,
                    Sent you an e-mail today. Hope to get caught up here.

                    wantomake

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                    • Originally posted by wantomake View Post
                      Hey old friend,
                      Sent you an e-mail today. Hope to get caught up here.

                      wantomake
                      Hey old Friend,

                      Sent you an E-mail Yesterday.
                      Trying to get finished on this end for later this weekend.

                      Clarence

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                      • Originally posted by BroMikey
                        Here are the first of the pictures Clarence may or may not put
                        up for those who might be interested. This is good work and good
                        workmanship.
















                        Happy building everyone
                        Hi Guys,
                        interesting thread. Pity about all the deleted information that might have been useful to someone coming in later. Ah well!

                        Anyway, if this is where you are up to with the Barbosa and Leal interpretation, you might just as well go and have a look at Don Smith's work. One of his devices looks a lot like the previously attached photos in the quote. There again, it might be that Barbosa and Leal have just reconfigured Tesla's asymetrical transformer, and it has been reverted back to its true design configuration.

                        Regards

                        Dwane

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                        • Originally posted by clarence
                          Hello Dwane,

                          ALL of the pictures and the posting of them was an unfortunate ACCIDENT

                          @ BroMikey:
                          BRO when you read this post PLEASE DELETE YOUR POST OF THOSE PHOTOS
                          FOR THE REASON MENTIONED! Thank you Sir!
                          Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
                          in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

                          I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
                          to that thread.

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                          • Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                            Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
                            in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

                            I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
                            to that thread.
                            Hello Bro,

                            Thanks for that BRO !
                            Appreciate it!

                            The BLACK BOX one needs to go too though - It was the High Frequency
                            Driver Unit for the vertical coils - so it is still out of context on this thread!

                            Thanks Again Bro!

                            Clarence

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                            • Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                              Okay I took care of it. We don't want to many signals getting crossed
                              in your process that has evolved over time based on the experiment.

                              I took off that Don Smith stuff. If anyone wants the DON SMITH go
                              to that thread.
                              THANKS AGAIN BRO!

                              Loved the Last Humor Effect.
                              The thread needs a little humor at times.

                              Will now be working towards the post discussed. Hopefully everything goes
                              well enough to be worthwhile. Has taken a lot of thought and effort - time
                              tells all!

                              Respectfully,

                              Clarence

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                              • Yoo clever by half

                                Hello Clarence,
                                I liked the humour too. Just so we are clear This is what your BRO said -" Here are the first of the pictures Clarence may or may not put
                                up for those who might be interested. This is good work and good workmanship".

                                Still looks to me like you are copying the Maestro Don Smith? Are these the pictures you did not want anyone to see? While taking the Piss with your Mickey Mouse?

                                When you two tossers think you can take the Piss to try to cover up, you had better get ready.

                                Now Clarence and BRO, have a good day.


                                Dwane
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