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  • Originally posted by Duncan View Post
    seems we are fighting to learn and focus on something that is just beyond the reach of each of us. That the pieces fit from so many different angles makes it ridiculous to think we are not padding about some thing important.
    Not just us but all of mankind. Here's something I stumbled upon that is a new (2009) fundamental discovery about electricity. At first glance it doesn't appear relevant to our work but upon reflection it certainly does - dipoles spontaneously arranging themselves into positions where like poles face each other. Huh? Yeah, it goes against everything we think we know and in the process generates a huge electric field.

    It's interesting on a couple of levels. The first is that something new was discovered about electricity in 2009. So when we get discouraged we can think about it and say, yes, there are still new things to be discovered. The second is that it was accidentally discovered. The people that discovered it were working towards something else and when they looked at their data they thought they had incorrect readings from their experiment but it turned out their data collection was correct. It's new enough and unique enough to require a new name for it - "spontelectric phenomenon".

    Historic discovery: huge electric field occurs spontaneously in laughing gas
    Spontaneous polarization of solid CO on water ices and some astrophysical implications
    Spontelectric behaviour - Google Search

    At first glance I thought, well it only happens at very low temperatures (appx -200C) so that can't help us because we're looking for something easier to attain at ambient temperature or nearly so. I put it on the back burner in my head for a while and when I looked at it again "cold electricity" popped into my head.

    Interestingly, it also requires thin films and works only with specific elements and compounds which kind of gets us back to crystals and crystal lattices.

    I thought the reference to "water ices" might trip your switch - forget the "astrophysical".

    Interestinger and interestinger...

    So, naturalists observe, a flea
    Hath smaller fleas that on him prey;
    And these have smaller still to bite 'em;
    And so proceed ad infinitum.
    Thus every poet, in his kind,
    Is bit by him that comes behind.
    Dean Jonathan Swift
    And the flea is on a larger body and that flea is on the earth and the earth is a flea on the sun and the sun is a flea on the galaxy, etc. Infinite scales in both directions. So when you're looking at that flea in a microscope, look over your shoulder every once in a while and see if you can detect the microscope that is looking at you.

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    • When is the ground not really grounded?



      So, I guess the ground is just the middle between two parts of the same coil.

      Yep.
      Matt
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      A day without sunshine is like night.

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      • Originally posted by Matthew_Jones View Post


        So, I guess the ground is just the middle between two parts of the same coil.

        Yep.
        Nope.

        When is the ground not really grounded? – When it isn’t the flaming ground anymore. (Electrically speaking).

        The metal balls are now the reference point(s), (ground if you will) and the earth ground is now the “hot” which involves displacement currents.

        Displacement currents are a different animal, to that of regular conduction currents.

        This is Tesla 101.
        "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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        • Not at all sure if earth/ground is really what you were thinking Matthew .. perhaps when is earth/ground not really equal to zero ( volts /current /power /energy) and what may we do to expose and utilize it would be nearer your consideration ?
          As for getting involved in the machinations of Tesla – like most folks (with the exception of EPD) I only have a tentative grasp of his doing's. That our earth circulates huge telluric currents is accepted (if not publicised) in the electrical domain we are used to, the voltage is feeble and the currents huge.
          From an electrical engineering stance historically this current was known as 'Magnetic current' and in this day and age 'reactive current' ( hence the book magnetic Current by Leedskalnin)

          http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/...alnin_51pp.pdf

          again from an electrical engineering stance there are two reactive currents (leading and lagging)
          although historically the circulating current of concern to the grid system was a lagging power factor – (called Magnetic current in old text books)
          There are then TWO resonant states to wit series resonance and parallel resonance. The mathematics and science of parallel resonance is well mapped including its transform from one dimension to another (and back) – electrical power to the electromagnetic wave and visa versa.
          The other resonance and its effects and science is simply 'Missing' and so the longitudinal wave is not acknowledged.
          There (almost certainly) exists then another type of electricity to that which we are familiar Different units, different dimension, different effects. An electrical engineer never runs a system at resonance …. always aiming for unity power factor .
          A radio operator on the other hand covets an VSWR of 1 and resonance. BECAUSE ..
          It is resonance that converts energy from one dimension to another. What of the other resonance ?
          What of its effects ? What of its electricity ?
          Its not there ! Its not in the books , its not used, we are led to believe it does not exist (EPD demonstrates and Tesla tells us otherwise)
          Zero power factor (from both directions) and SWR 0 are also resonant conditions with very different effects.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1eE13UXAKs

          one of which we Hoi polloi know nothing except scraps . If you consider this short video of protesters under a power grid

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DumgUdJhzpo

          then also consider this – It is natural to assume the energy lighting those tubes is emanating from the power lines and going to ground --- not the other way around as suggested by Tom Bearden here

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73rghTkRMU0

          What I then suggest is the type and nature of electrical power that we familiar with is an abomination to the natural state of the planet which attempts to counter it by all available methods and embrace it in the planets own huge circulating current system. A system we want to know how to use efficently.
          A system we are told 'can do no work ' ergo – reactive power can do no work – I for one beg to differ – even if our present route is to use the reactive current to (by chance almost) charge batteries and use the batteries to do work , still the avenue is open, it is the engineering, maths and science which is not being released.
          Last edited by Duncan; 04-15-2016, 03:45 AM.
          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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          • Another piece of the puzzle

            When is water not H20? When it is 2H203! (I really wish the editor used here had subscripts and superscripts).

            Watch the following video about how to make a battery with just water, a hydrophilic material, and electromagnetic radiation. While watching it substitute "electromagnetic radiation" for the word "light". That is what light is.
            The Fourth Phase of Water

            Lead acid battery electrolyte is roughly 60% water and it is recommended to use distilled water. Where does this fourth state of water occur? At the interface between between the water and a hydrophilic material.

            When you start looking for hydrophilic materials up pop sulfides and the electrolyte is water and sulfuric acid. Interestingly, titanium dioxide (TiO2) pops up again also.

            How does this relate to one-wire power? Suppose an electrode in the exclusion zone (explained in video) and another electrode either to earth ground or to a virtual ground as used by Tesla. This might (weak supposition) be a reason that Wardenclyffe was located with access to an aquifer with the grounding system 200 feet below the ground. Or the other electrode could be an elevated sphere in the atmosphere.

            Also note in the following video the high voltage is used with water to create a water bridge. The charge in the water is interacting with charge in the air between the beakers. Stop at 11 seconds and note the high voltage electrode attached to the beaker on the right.
            Water Bridge

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            • Thanks for posting those links Thx – I guess we drift a bit from the single wire concept but very interesting and I'm sure Bob will tolerate a little detour. I have it in mind to post a few clips and half formed idea's that watching your video triggers and see if it might lead to something useful for us. (or at least interesting) I guess the attempt of corporations to gain absolute control of the world wide water cycle needs to be underlined in red ink before anything else.

              NestlΓ©'s water privatization push | Story of Stuff

              of course like all things essential to life to gain control and a monopoly of what is an eternal priceless milch cow - (priceless to the point of enslavement) is quite a bushiness ambition.
              Watching your clip Thx and the EZ zone I was immediately reminded of basic transistor theory and the depletion layer ect – a distinct possible – regarding free energy from a battery.
              The association of light stored as a form of energy contained in water (and its flow) put me in mind of this clip

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmtzVITUWgk

              The social behaviour of water ? (Loved the water molecules sitting at the bar) considering we are body and soul little more than a 'bag of water' it stands to reason that emotion, feelings and memory may be part and parcel of 'water' This seems to be supported by the work of Prof Emoto

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvzsjcBtx8

              That evaporation seems to play such a huge (and allegedly unknown) part as far as energy is concerned a few figures would be nice . So my best shot – first 'The water shortage' Surly there is no such thing? – where can it go ? How does it leave the planet ? Of course it may be a temporary guest inside a cow ,dog or other beast, It may be in a sea or river but it certainly (whatever the corporations might tell you) hasn't left the planet . Surly there is just as much water as ever there was – no more and no less.
              I'm sure everyone recalls infants school and drawing the water cycle lets try to put some figures to this huge god given natural engine that's been purifying our water and irrigating our lands for millions of years.
              According to a school atlas the average rainfall for the entire earth is 32 inches per annum (inches ? Its an old atlas) if all that water fell at one time the entire globe would be under nearly 1 meter of water. This amount of water weighs in at roughly 480 million million tons. Since the water must be lifted by evaporation from every lake,river and ocean to an altitude (of about) 1200 meters in order for it to fall as rain there has to be an expenditure of some 220 thousand million horse power continuously throughout the year.
              Divided by the worlds surface area every square meter which is exposed to the sun receives 1.125 Kw continuously. Over a twelve hour period this is about 48,600 Kw- hours. Regardless of where you live I doubt you'd want to pay for it ! This short audio clip explores more amazing properties of water

              http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/c/c1/BBC...why factor.mp3

              quite apart from the Stan & Stephen Meyers , Andrija Puharich,Bob Boyce,Santilli and the literaly hundreds of others who have dissembled water to COP advantage (and been silenced)

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH72G5qXow

              There are folks historically who spent many years studying simple o'l water

              https://vimeo.com/11915668

              The part that HAARP plays in weather control and water distribution is obviously not public knowledge and any country or governments right to interfere with natures huge irrigation engine is IMHO dubious

              http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net...eo_documentary

              Billions of watts ? In Alaska ? Where that come from ? Perhaps here -

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZFO1tq5OeI


              Oh, what a tangled web we weave
              When first we practise to deceive!
              Walter Scott
              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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              • Bad math

                Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                Divided by the worlds surface area every square meter which is exposed to the sun receives 1.125 Kw continuously. Over a twelve hour period this is about 48,600 Kw- hours. Regardless of where you live I doubt you'd want to pay for it !
                Looks like 13.5 KWh by my math. About a buck fifty from my utility company here in the midwest USA.

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                • Bad math ? - bad mouth more like

                  1.125 Kw x 12 hrs x 365 days = approx 49000 kw/hrs nothing wrong with anyone's maths !
                  However I only consider 1 square meter as I clearly indicate. Still if your happy to give away $1 .50 x 365= $547 x (what ever square meter-age) your either very rich or very silly. (Even though I confess I envy your electric tariff)
                  The option I'd choose in your case is probably 'very silly' as you don't seem able to understand the very simplest of sums and approximation and consider it 'bad math'
                  I own a very modest house with little land and certainly if I tried paying for the energy freely available as I indicate ' per square meter' (even of the roof area never mind the land) I'd be very quickly bankrupt! As for 'bad math' there is no such thing – however bad maths might just creep under the wire if it were true (which of course it isn't) anyway I hope that helps you picture what I roughly describe here although I fear this particular ray of sunshine is liable to 'fall on stony ground' Kindest regards
                  Last edited by Duncan; 04-18-2016, 03:06 PM.
                  Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                  • Maybe the puzzle piece fits?

                    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
                    When is water not H20? When it is 2H203! (I really wish the editor used here had subscripts and superscripts).

                    Watch the following video about how to make a battery with just water, a hydrophilic material, and electromagnetic radiation. While watching it substitute "electromagnetic radiation" for the word "light". That is what light is.
                    The Fourth Phase of Water
                    Originally posted by thx1138 View Post
                    How does this relate to one-wire power? Suppose an electrode in the exclusion zone (explained in video) and another electrode either to earth ground or to a virtual ground as used by Tesla. This might (weak supposition) be a reason that Wardenclyffe was located with access to an aquifer with the grounding system 200 feet below the ground. Or the other electrode could be an elevated sphere in the atmosphere.
                    I’ve also been fascinated by the so-called fourth phase of water for a while and what the EZY zone actually is… Interestingly the EZY zone can be increased by around five-fold by the application of light, specifically IR spectrum. So the light “charges” the water, or the EZY zone. I’d like to know if the EZY zone becomes more positively charged or more negatively charged? – It reminds me of perhaps the mythical JOE Cell…

                    As for the “one wire” aspect and EZY zone etc. I have been thinking along the same lines.

                    My current “one wire” experiment has a charged “water capacitor” as the terminal capacity. Not for the disassociation of water but used as a “universal ground”. Water, almost a mythical unknown substance of itself, given it is life giving and newly discovered properties, can water be a substance that may be a conduit for the Aether?

                    Other experiments in progress with relation to this thread are 19 quartz tubes lined with gold, in a ‘flower of life’ configuration… As a terminal capacity. According to EPD, gold has a direct connection to the Aether. No oxides form on it either.
                    "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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                    • Just numbers

                      Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                      Over a twelve hour period this is about 48,600 Kw- hours.
                      Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                      1.125 Kw x 12 hrs x 365 days = approx 49000 kw/hrs
                      See the difference? Your first math does not include the 365 factor. But I should have known what you meant. My bad.

                      bi

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                      • roughly and approximately speaking - I start to think the human species must have spent a very considerable time at the Amoebae stage of development .
                        Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                        • There is no shortage of water and there is more than we conceive. A recent study (I couldn't find the link) said there is 2 to 3 times more water in the mantle of the earth than there is in all the oceans. That, does not, however, make it accessible.

                          The shortage is of potable water and the general cause of that is simply ignorance. Society has developed a sense of dependency so most people are dependent on others to acquire their water. They have no idea what is involved in delivering water to their faucet. Nor can they even conceive of the prospect that they could collect water for themselves in some manner other than going to a store and buying it.

                          I was in a pharmacy several years ago and mentioned the drought that was occurring out at my rural property had dropped the aquifer to a level that the submersible pump was no longer in the water. The cashier just looked at me and asked, "What does that mean?" like I was speaking Martian. For him, I guess I was.

                          Potable water is only a problem for those who live in the urban areas which, I guess, is why TPTB have an ongoing global program to move people from rural areas to cities so they can increase that dependency and therefore their control.

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                          • Well-spoken, THX. I completely agree. Cultures, languages and accompanying moral values are being swallowed up in the vast overcrowded urban areas. In my work and travels, I have seen many people forced to relocate from ancestral lands into the cities. There is money to be made, but also the greater risk of losing one's identity, one's soul.

                            The madness cannot last, and perhaps one day soon, our landscapes will be once again buzzing with people on small farms, in small villages, trading their goods and helping one another out. Perhaps by our trading of ideas and work for the betterment of humanity on this forum, we can be forerunners of the rebirth of civilization from this urbanized dark age.
                            Regards,
                            Bob

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                            • I am enjoying the rock and roll of this thread ! Water particularly is a fascinating twist particularly as we ourselves are made up of 70 – 80 % water and I'm assured by a chemist bod friend of mine
                              that at a molecular level that rises into the high 90s .
                              what then if we take a deep breath a consider that thought, emotion,and feeling must be transportable via water ? Indeed that water must be capable of Memory. Here is Prof Masaru Emoto making that very case.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvzsjcBtx8

                              It is very difficult for any of us to see through the smoke and mirrors created by the maniacs driving the bus that is our world at this time.
                              An understanding of what's being attempted by t.p.t.b on a social level is perhaps a help ? There are of course many possible sequences to follow and this happens to be mine.
                              Its in a series of events which seem to agree with one another and make some sort of lunatic sense.
                              I think it goes without saying that most of us our aware of the suppression of Tesla and his technologies by 'big business' and their corporations at the turn of the 1900s however I opt to pick up the threads some 45 years later as the big corporations themselves are taken over and in turn control world governments,energy,finance and in due course the demise of most of us.
                              In the event of invasion during WW2 Britain had a 'plan B' it involved under ground bunkers , assassination's and Anthrax.
                              Germany of course also had a 'plan B' Germany's plan was conceived by Martin Bormann and the construct hammered out in the 'red house' accord . A taste of this can be seen in this video where at one stage petrol additive it shipped from England which is immediately used to 'Bliiz' London -a bit like the cartoons where the guy's sawing through the branch he's sitting on but not so funny of course.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMKnH2BlkBA

                              still This huge group of immoral capitalists became the core of the Nazi 'plan B' as explained by Tony Gossling within this Radio interview

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAq1q1_swyM

                              This secretive sinister group met anonymously some decade later at the Bilderburg Hotel on the outskirts of Oosterbeek very near Arnhem (of a bridge to far fame) hence in the absence of anything else this powerful steering committee became known as ' The Bilderburg group'.
                              The Nixon government guided by key Bilderburg member Henry Kissenger advanced the power of Bilderburg and the corporations by reneging on the countries debts to France and Italy and in so doing collapsing the world's exchange system – Here is Tricky Nicky Oozing political slime and doing just that --

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRzr1QU6K1o

                              The next move is the one than hurts and damages so many 'free energy researchers. In the absence of any coherent international exchange system one had to manufactured , manufactured of course to
                              be of advantage to the Nazi/Bilderburg/ corporations – Here is American Agent and assassin John Perkins explaining in some detail how that system was advanced and corrupted to force energy in the shape of the 'petro dollar ' into the exchange system

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPoZJNT1eM

                              What then is the inevitable outcome of an inventor who has the misfortune to invent a clean abundant energy source and is naοve enough to think its needed ,wanted,or required? Here's what happens
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH72G5qXow

                              What then if even more energy resources are discovered – say huge oil reserves ? That has happened.!Here is flying lay preacher Linsay Williams describing the event – and what happened next

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk

                              So – back to water (however did I drift so) given a huge energy source and no possible use for it what next ? Build a super weapon of course, whatever else would a Nazi based system do?
                              Build it in secret and give it a special dollop of the smoke and mirrors we 'free energy researchers' are very used to

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SToVBicIrJU

                              So what's the end goal of Bilderburg ? Well of course just the same as the Nazi's,Eugenics and a master race .
                              American reporter Jim Tucker has been following(as far a possible) the doings of Bilderburg and along with Alex Jones produced this disturbing documentary.

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho

                              I confess I watched it and rather hoped that Alex Jones had over egged the cake for dramatic effect ,now I'm not so sure, are you?
                              That rainfall and 'potable' water may be engineered then has to be considered
                              Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                              • few doctors understand alt energy
                                plasma is the 4th state

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awsybdz2mv0

                                sanitation and clean water could eventually affect US urban.
                                Public funding and censored internet
                                issues may require science to migrate to encryption based forum.
                                Last edited by mikrovolt; 06-19-2016, 11:17 PM.

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