Single Wire Power - A Search for Ambient Power to do Wwork

[Bob Smith]

Interesting. Here's another plasma treatment link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--XUo3OObrY

Is hi voltage dielectricity (HV without amperage) not also quite capable of producing plasma? I see the alternative energy link here, and the potential for producing clean water that comes with it.

Here's another talk on use of plasma-treated water to replace pesticides:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDcQhkt3-L0

The problem is that this comes up against the powerful chemical companies.

I also see the possibility for harnessing plasma for single wire power transfer.

Bob

[Bob Smith]

Duncan
Amen brother! Preaching to the choir . Your line of reasoning around water has me thinking about the proliferation of towers and the frequencies they broadcast. I've been aware of Emoto's work for years, but somehow never put the two together.

I believe that a body in a weakened state -energetically or otherwise - will be more susceptible to pathogenic assaults. Perhaps drinking properly structured and charged water is one answer.

I also believe that the single wire power effect described at the start of this thread is a kind of energy transmission which can have helpful effects on the body. I also come back to resonance as an important factor in this SWP process. I'll get more into this in the coming days if time permits. It's been a very busy month for me.
Regards,
Bob

[med.3012]

Interesting. Here's another plasma treatment link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--XUo3OObrY

Is hi voltage dielectricity (HV without amperage) not also quite capable of producing plasma? I see the alternative energy link here, and the potential for producing clean water that comes with it.

Here's another talk on use of plasma-treated water to replace pesticides:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDcQhkt3-L0

The problem is that this comes up against the powerful chemical companies.

I also see the possibility for harnessing plasma for single wire power transfer.

Bob

really amazing videos, Thanks for sharing


Regards

[thx1138]

I ran into the following while researching barium ferrite cores and magnets vis-a-vis Floyd Sweet's VTA. It led me into barium titanate (BaTiO3) and lead titanate (PbTiO3) also which have some very interesting properties regarding electricity.

But this post is about titanium dioxide (TiO2) which will purify air and water and not be consumed in the process. Simply speaking, UV light stimulates the TiO2 which emits an electron and leaves a "hole" in the TiO2 which is then filled from the environment to self replenish the TiO2. The freed electron reacts with organic matter in the air or water being purified and this reaction oxidizes the organic matter rendering it harmless. Apparently, it requires no outside power source other than the UV light that can be obtained from the sun so it could work wonders in 3rd world countries.
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[mikrovolt]

I ran into the following while researching barium ferrite cores and magnets vis-a-vis Floyd Sweet's VTA. It led me into barium titanate (BaTiO3) and lead titanate (PbTiO3) also which have some very interesting properties regarding electricity.

But this post is about titanium dioxide (TiO2) which will purify air and water and not be consumed in the process. Simply speaking, UV light stimulates the TiO2 which emits an electron and leaves a "hole" in the TiO2 which is then filled from the environment to self replenish the TiO2. The freed electron reacts with organic matter in the air or water being purified and this reaction oxidizes the organic matter rendering it harmless. Apparently, it requires no outside power source other than the UV light that can be obtained from the sun so it could work wonders in 3rd world countries.
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The subject can start out simple and end up complex.
when niobium is doped into the abbsorbing material such as Tio2 further kinetic enhancement is possible. It is hoped that large scale system could clean nasty pollutants from water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcY1564woLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvJ5iKJZCfQ

[Duncan]

One Man's 'plasma' another's dielectric breakdown ?

Just how good is water as an insulator ? Very good it seems (as long as the water is clean and pure) its given a relative dielectric strength somewhere around about 80. (no wonder those Tesla 'coilers' have used water bucket capacitors.)
As I watched these video's you kindly posted I was reminded of this clip from some time ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTV85J2QHj0

I really don't think anyone who made up 'one of the few' would ever be induced to to tell porky pies on television – do you?
Anyway I was thinking along the lines of the good Prof Williamson 'resistivity of the water (It kinda makes sense)
and so I threw a couple of spoons in a jam jar back then to see the result. that meter by the way is set to 10 amps FSD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teAksvLyaJ0

I guess what puzzled and intrigued me at the time is the response is far from linear and like UFO politics I'm aware things asymmetric have great potential still for some reason I didn't tarry or dwell on the issue but its always nagged at the back of my mind.
anyway following your clips I revisited this and started varying plate sizes separation distances and plotting graphs.
Keeping these year two electrical principles in mind .. A capacitor causes a 90 deg phase shift

AC Capacitor Circuits : Reactance And Impedance -- Capacitive - Electronics Textbook

and P=VIcos φ (real power) and cos φ = 0 for a 90 phase shift


I managed to get to a point where I could hear 'mains hum' and things started rattling (just as Peter
describes.)
I have got to a stage now where a Gallon Demijohn of water is boiling for a mere 12 watts of power. and have it in mind to coil micro bore pipe around the Jar and use it as a heat exchanger in order feed a radiator by natural conduction.
I start to suspect there's something of great merit here but its obviously difficult to confirm until I've cobbled something along these lines together and sucked it to see.
I have hopes of a simple, safe, easy build I can share -- ah but hope springs eternal.

[mikrovolt]

Duncan happy to hear that one of your projects is progressing.

The Peter Davy device does not have very many builds and 12 watts
in resistive terms is comparable to a small soldering iron so there is
hope that an evaluation will bring out new properties. Even a small success
can be accomplishment to embelished a spirit of positive energy because
quantifying is not everything here. Finding new constraints might be
interesting to explore.

Conventionally we think about kinetic theory that chemically water has
high capacity to store heat but some contemporary theories view water as
having a high affinity to store memory in the form of structure according to the late Rustum Roy.
In contrast to chemical there are structured attributes:
When water is structured to form clusters it has a fractal field
that expands its boundaries with the help of certain acoustics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h7uk75-X9Q
some bowls shape are helpful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhZ6XcMaX2o

But is there a thermal relationship ?
When heat is removed from water it expands unlike metal which contracts.
There may be an acoustically derived water structure where water is compact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYMH1U8uVU
so the wave part seems plausable.

[Bob Smith]

Interesting video and reflections, Duncan. Dielectric breakdown sounds to me to be the key. EPD spoke about dissolving the molecular bonds of water using dielectricity to liberate huge quantities of energy. Here's the cued up link:
https://youtu.be/lWoLH21ITys?t=5868 He starts talking about it at 1:37:48.

So what does dielectric breakdown and single wire power (SWP) have in common... I think it's in the realm of potential difference. Lightning is a classic example. I see it in Dave Bowling and Matt's work on the potential difference between positive terminals in the 3BGS and 5BGS system.

When we widen the window of potential difference and discharge it in a pulsed fashion, we disturb the aether/ambient realm/dielectric realm and cause an imbalance. The aether of course ain't havin' none of that, and rushes in to restore energetic equilibrium.

So your 12 watt boiling setup doesn't surprise me. As EPD says, it's not in the amount of wattage going in, but rather in the wave form. And potential difference is much more critical and essential, and amperage much, much less so.

My 2cents...
Bob

[Duncan]

Thank you both for very interesting links I spent a goodly few hours writing some observations and then open office froze and spewed out my efforts … ah well start again --- I think there is something to your thoughts Bob for single wire read 'open circuit' somewhere. As you suggest earth to sky perhaps or a capacitor or in this case – water. Mikrovolt – very interesting conjecture. If a little above my immediate comprehension still I am going to try a build of some sort. But just a few observations and notes as I flounder about. This whole thing seems very counter intuitive not to say dangerous despite being an electrician and with earth leakage in place and fast blow low amp fuses along with along with a red 'live' warning light it still seems madness to drop plates at 230 volts less than 1mm apart into household tap water. But that's where hum and vibration starts.
Having said that the effect was with two plates (actually SS knife blades) running inside a glass 1 gallon demijohn. The effect (vibration and hum) was not present when I changed to a glass jug of a different size and shape using the same electrodes – so I guess you could well have hit the right button with shape Mikrovolt there's certainly a spacial relationship.
I also tried the set up in another area (Lancaster)and found the different water supply reacted differently and the temperature graphs were also different (still not a straight line graph of course.)
With the physics we have at present the only possible heat source is I^2R (agreed?)obviously its my wish (and yours too I hope) there's something else there also . In order to mitigate I^2R (loss?) I invested in some de-ionised and distilled water as I noticed that after boiling my tap water this way for a few hours it turns a pretty horrible yellow and I'm assuming that's heavy metals & minerals ect which in turn brings I^2R into play.
The gallon of 50 K ohm pure water still came to boiling point in the demijohn but understandably took longer - maintaining boiling of that quantity of water is consuming 15 watts.
I wished to bring the boiling rate right down and decided to try smaller plate area – strangely it had the opposite effect. I don't know why that is nor do I know what's vibrating and creating 'mains hum'. perhaps iron in the water? (no hum with de-ionised water)
I decided for no reason other than my eyes rested on a couple of diodes from a microwave oven to see what effect an AV plug on the input would have. One diode in the positive t'other in the negative feed. certainly Not what I expected - like an alka sulzer on speed. I guess that needs some investigation too! Don't know if that's Browns gas or not and don't feel inclined to blow myself up just yet.
I guess just as these heating curves are not straight line graphs the plate separation and shape could in theory be optimised through temperature ranges and I think in around about way that's what took Peter the best part of 20 years to achieve. I don't think I've got twenty years so its my intention to try and optimise on one point – boiling (just). And then trickle feed a radiator.
Its a big ambition ! To drive a water radiator rated at 1500 watts from a pot consuming circa 15 watts of so called 'real power' almost doomed to fail I guess but I'm inclined to try . I feel something's here to be tested and probed a bit more.
Quite where this extra energy may be coming from I'm not at all sure but as the demijohn hummed and vibrated the metering I had on the supply showed the PF varying between 0.85 and unity. As the natural collapse of the sine wave on the grid is by harmonics and overtones – re-active power -

Harmonics and Harmonic Frequency in AC Circuits

It also offers credence to Peter's 'musical' tuning. Of course reactive power should not be capable of 'doing work' If it does the books will have to be re-written ( and about time)
keeping in mind that I have what's (in theory) a pretty much purely capacitive circuit
P = V.I.cos φ
should be zero (ish) it isn't, other things are at play here . In fact not much is happening here as the books predict Can the odd balls be put to heating a radiator remains to be seen 'but ahh hope springs eternal' and Barkiss is willing

[Duncan]

little steps ..

To make a thing that is reproducible is not proving easy . Resonant to what ? Here's am example someone else playing about with this peculiar resonant state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RdpWuvbsI
zero amps of course = zero 'real power'
still I am specifically searching for something very easy,effective and useful that can be reproduced by a lot of people. Not things involving phase locked loops and complex construction.
At the moment I am struggling a/ to reproduce identical results and I am considering making a large submersible variable capacitor to try and find a 'best option' for a 'Volksproject'
And then there's this very nice picture of Peter



taken from this Polish researchers web site

Shocking history of the revolutionary boiler which bits all possible records (in English)

I'm glad to say the photo shots of Peter's ammeter concur with the video I showed earlier .. that is -current drops when boiling ... still much to be seen & done however

[thx1138]

RE Polish Boiler

Very like John Keely's "Dissociation of Water" but produced electrically. A fellow named Hans von Lieven figured out what Keely was actually doing. He explains it very well but it is a long read. It's rather amazing what Keely sussed out in relation to molecular and atomic structure using sound in the 1800's. It's well worth the read in regard to kinetic harmonics and sound.
HANS VON LIEVEN

The main question I have about the "Polish Boiler" is, was the water actually boiling from heat or was it dissociating to form the bubbles? Admittedly, I only took a quick read through it from the link Duncan provided. I saw a lot of talk about bubbles but not about heat.

The first time I read the Hans von Lieven web site it definitely grabbed my attention so I thought I would pass it along.

[Duncan]

Hi thx thanks for your link . I'm afraid there is no polish boiler per se but rather a Polish Dr who met and made a further study of Peter Davey and his heater . I'm not at all sure about the time shifting aspect of things but the pictures of current consumption whilst the boiler works tells much, (although its a fair way through the web page I'm afraid.)
I only surmise from what I'm seeing thx and its quite possible to see the water boiling between these plates whilst the surrounding water is cool.
As you can see the di-electric properties alter dramatically at a boiling point . (the current drops right off) to hold that state throughout was what I believe Peter achieved (or very nearly so).
As for gassing seems waveform, current and spacing has much effect – there's a lot of variables here.
Pulsed DC or DC tends to gas , having said that here's a Guy running 230v DC into plates and heating very quickly. (Doesn't really help without energy figures I know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iiWGel3q50
Its only required that we make something simple and reproducible that is obviously COP >1 but of course that's easier said than done

[BroMikey]

To make a thing that is reproducible is not proving easy . Resonant to what ? Here's am example someone else playing about with this peculiar resonant state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RdpWuvbsI
zero amps of course = zero 'real power'
still I am specifically searching for something very easy,effective and useful that can be reproduced by a lot of people. Not things involving phase locked loops and complex construction.
At the moment I am struggling a/ to reproduce identical results and I am considering making a large submersible variable capacitor to try and find a 'best option' for a 'Volksproject'
And then there's this very nice picture of Peter



taken from this Polish researchers web site

Shocking history of the revolutionary boiler which bits all possible records (in English)

I'm glad to say the photo shots of Peter's ammeter concur with the video I showed earlier .. that is -current drops when boiling ... still much to be seen & done however

World class researcher, no yoyo, maybe, projects.
Good to C-U round but as an underclassmen I am not sure how
one wire energy works in this setup. If only I could find the
page where a one wire setup works in basic form even in a small
way.

[Duncan]

Hi BroMikey nice to read you – I'm sure you don't really mean what you write ! If you do simply take your little Kite outside when there's a little bit of a thunderstorm going on, connect your nice long wire to it and 'let her fly' hold the other end of the wire tightly in your hot sweaty little hand.!- I promise you'll soon be relieved of your anxiety regarding the possibility of single wire energy (and possibly a few other anxieties)
Still I guess that's rather extreme and dramatic and of course I'm jesting even so, the same conditions exist to a certain extent all the time .
Since you'd be quite content to see long wire energy ' in a small way' I suggest this simple easy build.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDIfPhwJyHE

I did build it and showed it earlier in this thread, quite good enough to run a small quartz clock. Of course what's really wanted by most folks is thousands of watts, controllable and on demand (which I guess is the star we aim for) still Bromikey if single wire energy “ even if only in a small way” rocks your boat there it is for you – quite what the parameters are when using water as a dielectric is another thing altogether the stuff reacts very differently at different frequencies and with different wave shapes.

Consider then this patent from 1898 using a plasma arc in household sewage in order to provide gas for lighting

Patent US603058 - Electrical retort - Google Patents

The technology later adopted by Prof Santilli and demonstrated in this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjRhcX-QUYE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy0WXkj1Drw

The technology of course should be in every home but that's not going to happen any time soon.
or Is it?

[thx1138]

Boiling water at altitude

As you can see the di-electric properties alter dramatically at a boiling point . (the current drops right off) to hold that state throughout was what I believe Peter achieved (or very nearly so).
As for gassing seems waveform, current and spacing has much effect – there's a lot of variables here.
Pulsed DC or DC tends to gas , having said that here's a Guy running 230v DC into plates and heating very quickly. (Doesn't really help without energy figures I know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iiWGel3q50
Its only required that we make something simple and reproducible that is obviously COP >1 but of course that's easier said than done

This video actually shows that he is not boiling water. The water is not going through a phase change from liquid to vapor. Although we see some kind of vapor rising from the bowl, the temperature of the water that he shows is 66C. The charts that show at what temperature water boils for a given altitude usually start a bit above 70C for an altitude of around 9000 meters (29527 Ft). It's safe, I think, to assume he is nowhere near that kind of altitude. Even at 3000 meters he would need to get much nearer 90C to cause water to boil. Considering the size of his electrodes I don't think he is causing a plasma between the plates. What he is probably showing is electrolysis.
https://www.google.com/search?q=boil...FeFE_ninoQM%3A