Single Wire Power - A Search for Ambient Power to do Wwork

[DavidE]

dragon

Many are convinced that what they don't understand, can't see or measure is inconsequential.

At certain frequencies and voltages, opportunistic energies flood simple oscillator circuits. Some of these energies do not act like AC or DC. I speculate that resonance plays a big part in the phenomena.

Do you fully understand the phenomena?

No I do not, but I can make it appear, I can test for it, and I can coax it to do work.

Conventional meters only help in this way... when they stop working, the energy is present (meters go off scale).

[Duncan]

single wire .. and I thought 'smoking' in classrooms was banned

Hi Dragon I can totally understand your feelings and if I hadn't been in the situation where I once watched a battery ice around its terminals under load, I would probably feel the same way . For what its worth if the way I start to look at things now is anything like correct the peculiar resonance state shown by gotoluc is extremely difficult to find and hold on a lead acid battery.
If fact when I think about it the odds on finding a/ That resonant point and b/ a suitable conversion
medium are very high and like horse and carriage and I don't think ones any good without t'other.
Even if you had found the resonant state, alas I don't think you would know .. but that's just my thinking on things.
I'm sure if we all mull the thing over and in due course experiment a bit we can get to some viable answers . Some where around this area Bob has decided to probe I'm sure the answers are lurking!
I think Its fair to say none of us 'fully understand' at our level no body does (officially) if any of us did and published the proof well we can all go home and find a new hobby The stated object of this forum would have been accomplished and so all of us and the 'free energy circus ' would have to find new pastures in a very different world.
Although some of what I have written is tried and tested a great deal isn't and I guess the same goes for everyone . A lot of what each of us has to say at this stage is quite rightly hypothesis. Each of us has seen different things, read different things,built and tested different things, there's certainly IMHO a lot more questions than answers . If (and its a huge if) we could agree to run the thread along the same lines as a (shared) experiment or rather series of experiments.
I think we stand a good chance of cracking this nut ! I'm sure we all remember the way it should be done 1/object 2/hypothesis 3/apparatus 4/Method 5/results 6/ conclusion
The object has already been clearly stated by Bob It starts this thread .
Single Wire Power - A Search for Ambient Power to do Work
It is clear we all have a different hypothesis at some point in what is a complex chain, of course its only complex because like anything else we don't know it ..yet, still all of us know bits of the puzzle

The hypothesis bit is extremely important because the next two stages apparatus and method can cost lots of money, time,frustration and depression .. got several T shirts if you want one !
I suggest we spend quite a lot of time on hypothesis without challenging one another in an unpleasant way, There are some fine minds on this forum with very varied skill sets and experience we need their help!

Our general method is wide open for suggestions but my suggestion at the moment (for what its worth) is to take something 'single wire' that is known to work and supply ambient power and then use our combined efforts to vastly improve the performance.
I think I posted something similar earlier but how about this for a starting point ?
http://www.pssurvival.com/PS/Batteri...arger_2006.pdf
although at first glance this little youtube circuit based on the same Tesla antenna system doesn't look robust enough to take future pulsing experiments Its also in the 'ball park'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC4tK02aco
It may seem to be humble and feeble beginnings the equivalent of a crystal set but its got a huge plus … It works! (or at least the radio hams say it does) there's the first question then .. does it actually work ? even then I can think of many more questions such as ..
what percentage efficiency does adding a earth connection make? If as stated a deep cycle lead acid battery can be fully charged in two days what about ten or twenty connected in parallel a'la Bedini ? Consider then this 'single wire experience' from a fellow member Lester444 posted some time ago
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...radient+energy
I see from my last comment on that thread some years ago I was starting to mull over and consider much the same things as I do now, quite rightly Its worried Lester for a lot more years!
Its a single wire ..more importantly its free energy, lots of it ! We want to know all about that,don't we?

[BroMikey]

Thanks Duncan

I learn when you talk. Been watching your videos on solar
and the Tesla coils. Glad to see you pop in.

[DavidE]

In general does not all energy originate in ambient space?

[vidbid]

B-Line Systems

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEbBAjmPQ0[/VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEbBAjmPQ0

OneWire TS - Single line power transmission system

http://www.onewirets.com

Professor Michael Bank

http://www.ofdma-manfred.com/

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Resonance Single Wire Power Transmission

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1-RIcj1HY[/VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz1-RIcj1HY

Resonance Single Wire Power Transmission

..looks like it would be easy enough to replicate..

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Michael Bank Power Poinit Presentation

?Presentation "11 Michael Bank E-mail: bankmichael1@gmail.combankmichael1@gmail.com There are some articles in site: www. OFDMA-Manfred.com Two faces Janus The Israel."

http://slideplayer.com/slide/221469/#

[dragon]

Duncan,

The only thing lacking from this and other forums is the desire to identify and understand a source of energy.

Our task, as I see it, is to seek out, identify all possible sources in any form no matter how feeble, learn how to convert it into something we understand (conventional) and make it useful in some way.

Earth is a massive ball of energy, cycling every frequency known and unknown. I suspect each frequency has it's own energy value. It's being "pinged" thousands of times a day by storms around the globe, by the sun and darkness, man made signals, on and on. We tend to set our focus on single signals - drawing energy from a local radio station or converting a whistler or even that strange continuous clicking. It's all there...

Each signal as an individual is small in energy content... but what if they could be combined and merged into one much larger wave...? Is it possible? I believe it is.

DavidE mentions it above as "opportunistic energies flooding an oscillator",or more precisely a harmonic convergence where all frequencies are reinforcing each other.

If we can identify and understand the source, the methods of conversion (circuits) become more clearly seen.

[DavidE]

dragon

You said:

harmonic convergence

That's music to my ears!

[med.3012]

Hi to all,

interesting discussion

[Bob Smith]

Some great musings by Don Smith on the great sea of energy which surrounds us, waiting to be tapped:

Source: http://free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf P. 22.
Bob Smith (no relation )

[mikrovolt]

Correct.
The non-linear system of energy waves being the sort of "harmonic convergence"
in an open system.

However at the present technology we are limited to a frequency range that
is fast enough to have a meaningful change and not so fast that we cannot use and reuse the energy.

There are very large waves take a lifetime or more to become small in frequency.
The shape of the waves will also returns to sine which is charecteristic of natural ambient.
There are experiments that use a fast fourier ttransform to derive a square wave from a sine.
They are interesting conversions and because of the insistence of closed loops
that property of setting back it's natural course has been exploited by various techniques.

In music, the range of sound within the atmosphere we live having air pressure
defines the range of human hearing and you will find that it becomes harder to distinguish
between a sine wave and a square wave as the frequency increases. In addition to the periodic charecter when we add distortion into a pure sine wave we percieve more depth or fullness. In my experience with health and human energy there are some specific frequencies that help and the others hinder. When a full chord are played together there
is an increase in the effect using heavy walled aluminum tubing 2 inch diameter and less than 48 inches long. In electrical energy the range of 13 Mhz to 15 Mhz have shown benefit and are more robust in harmonics possibly because of the materials used in solid state. There seems to be some connection to the aluminum in reusing energy. In most of our energy collecting schemes we are trying to catch the smaller fish using a net with large holes because of our misperception.

[dR-Green]

The shape of the waves will also returns to sine which is charecteristic of natural ambient.
There are experiments that use a fast fourier ttransform to derive a square wave from a sine.
They are interesting conversions and because of the insistence of closed loops
that property of setting back it's natural course has been exploited by various techniques.

In music, the range of sound within the atmosphere we live having air pressure
defines the range of human hearing and you will find that it becomes harder to distinguish
between a sine wave and a square wave as the frequency increases.

A square wave sounds like a square wave because of the harmonic spectrum of frequencies that is produced by a square waveform. A pure sine wave is theoretically a single frequency and has no harmonic content.

By analysing the spectrum of a square waveform and making note of the harmonic frequencies, one may easily put together individual sine waves playing all the same frequencies at the same amplitudes to reproduce what looks and sounds like a square waveform. This is the essence of synthesis, sound design, and how digital synthesizers try to reproduce the sound of acoustic instruments. Any sound/waveform can essentially be broken down to a collection of sine waves.

Also because of this, you are unable to distinguish between square and sine waveforms at the higher frequencies purely because in order to identify a square waveform you need to be able to hear the harmonics. If the harmonics are beyond the frequency range of your hearing then the waveform is filtered, and you are left with a sine wave.

P.S. your telephone speaker is unable to reproduce the low fundamental frequency of the male voice, and yet you accurately identify a person as a male when they phone you. This is due to the harmonics or overtones that the male voice produces, which are different to a female voice, and so your brain automatically analyses the harmonic spectrum to find the nearest matching pattern = human male. Your brain is filling in the physical gap that the inadequate speaker has created. You can filter the fundamental frequency and your brain can identify sounds based on the harmonics just fine. But if you filter out the harmonics then it's like removing colour from vision, you'll never be able to tell the difference between a violin and a harmonica.

Furthermore, a square waveform with a short pulse has less harmonic content than a longer pulse, in case anyone was thinking "impulses" and "more harmonics" simultaneously would produce magic, they are contradictory.

[med.3012]

Some great musings by Don Smith on the great sea of energy which surrounds us, waiting to be tapped:

Source: http://free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf P. 22.
Bob Smith (no relation )

Galaxy has a special engine make it work in that huge distances, sombrero galaxy has a diameter of approximately 50,000 light-years !



the engine move the galaxy have to relate matter, gravity , energy and time all as one unity in order to bypass the restrictions, because no seen energy the fuel is taken from the environment and given back again to the same source, we see only the visible portion of this huge engine, the hidden side is related directly with black holes to form something similar to tornado ....

within the galaxy everything is spinning, the earth , moon, sun , the black holes , the galaxy itself, spinning is the language they talk to each other, in the borders of black holes the speed of stars approach the speed of light!

in my opinion and in term of over energy systems ( over unity has no sense... ) we have to relate magnetic and electric both with time to access the unified electric energy after that we have to learn how to treat the power from this unified system !

[mikrovolt]

dR-greene,
I want you to know that I do appreciate your help in giving a more accurate explanation
of the audio waves and why they are percieved. Some frequencies such as 528 and 432
are often cited and others possibly 174, 285, 396, 417, 528, 639, 741, 852, 963 Hertz.
Some concider these to be healthy but I have'nt spent much time on this.

The article presented by Bob that non-linear open system by ambient
is responsible for the EM energy in the generators that we are missing something there.