Single Wire Power - A Search for Ambient Power to do Wwork

[med.3012]

i agree with Sputins there is a methods currently unknown to us...., electrostatic induction differ from electromagnetic induction, the last one is excellent in transmitting information but the first one is able to take the power directly from the environment without this capability wireless power would be impossible! if we could understand this mechanism it will be very easy to amplify the power interaction with the environment, the same philosophy is needed to extract the power ! everything have to be done correctly regarding how electrostatic induction really works ?

[mikrovolt]

in one wire there are some who believe that they are capable of causing an alvalanche.
A tunnel diode operating in a certain range has some benefit but is not very high voltage.
An arc flash over on a high tension line is said to exibit the equivalent of 1 lb. of dynomite
is shortlived, unconfined and wild usually associated with damage.
The avalanche of a tunnel diode may be related to other events in a one wire.

There are tesla coils that are true tesla coils and there are modified tesla.
The authentic replications give the authentic output. The discipline of keeping these
accurate for study has merit. The modified tesla being yet another variety of output charecteristics.
tesla hair.png former unbeliever in ambient
Fortuneately we have both on this forum to compare. So let's be clear
so the authentic builds will not need to defend this.

For example: Bob has a low voltage one wire project we can say it has it's own category.

Low voltage is safe In RF it is better to experiment with less than 3 watts.
wireless has higher chance of someone getting hurt.
there are those qualified and the heavy duty projects do have some responsible people.
I think Earnest has one of the larger Tesla projects. One category being large.
A meaningful discussion may be difficult making comparison to a minature tesla.

[lotec]

Electrostatic induction without forcing the capacitive coupling.

Putting a capacitor somewhere along the one wire focusing the electric field into the same vector as the current.. RF people already knows what happens.

designing caps that allow the current to flow in one end of the primary plate and out the other ie incoprerated into the one wire, seemed to allow the electrostatic action to form a side branch.

I could be mistaken. my methods are pretty crude. Just a long thin slither of a fizzy can rolled into a tube for the primary plate, and a layer of thin wire wrapped around for the secondary plate, one end of the wire plugged into a bridge rectifier and the other side of rectifier to virtual ground or maybe neg.

I could be wrong but there seemed to be some scope for wagging around electrons without de-energizing the wave too much. Maybe its worth looking into.

[med.3012]

Just an idea to share about Tesla wireless power transmission and the strange relation between inductance and capacitance which indicate the presence of parallel /serial interaction both at the same time :




from the receiver sphere into the transmitter sphere both the capacitance and the inductance are related in serial while the two spheres are connected in parallel in the open air !

the following text is quoted from :

http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliter...alar-Waves.pdf


If I put the transmitter into the aluminium case and close the door, then nothing should arrive at the receiver. Expert laboratories for electromagnetic compatibility in this case indeed cannot detect anything and that, although in spite of that the receiver lamps glow! By turning of the receiver coil it can be verified that an electric and not a magnetic coupling is present although the Faraday cage should shield electric fields. The scalar wave obviously overcomes the cage with a speed faster than light, by tunnelling!

in order to benefit from electrostatic induction we have to understand the parallel/serial interaction mechanism!


EDIT : the same post is present in the resonance energy device explained thread .

[dR-Green]

Just an idea to share about Tesla wireless power transmission and the strange relation between inductance and capacitance which indicate the presence of parallel /serial interaction both at the same time :




from the receiver sphere into the transmitter sphere both the capacitance and the inductance are related in serial while the two spheres are connected in parallel in the open air !

the following text is quoted from :

http://www.k-meyl.de/go/Primaerliter...alar-Waves.pdf


If I put the transmitter into the aluminium case and close the door, then nothing should arrive at the receiver. Expert laboratories for electromagnetic compatibility in this case indeed cannot detect anything and that, although in spite of that the receiver lamps glow! By turning of the receiver coil it can be verified that an electric and not a magnetic coupling is present although the Faraday cage should shield electric fields. The scalar wave obviously overcomes the cage with a speed faster than light, by tunnelling!

in order to benefit from electrostatic induction we have to understand the parallel/serial interaction mechanism!

It would be advisable not to pollute your mind with Konstantin Meyl's rubbish. What he means to say is:

If I put the transmitter into the aluminium case and close the door, energy should arrive at the receiver, because I have a wire going through the aluminium case which directly connects the transmitter to the receiver, so the aluminium case had may as well not be there at all.

The energy is not transmitted through the air. Earth is the conducting medium. When earth is not used, water or wires or plasma columns or any such medium may be used instead. Energy propagates through said medium between transmitter and receiver, not the air. The transmitter and receiver are both "isolated" systems in space, but connected through earth. That's why Meyl's experiments work, it has nothing to do with "scalar waves" and penetrating any shielding because there is no shielding. I.E. it's a single wire transmission system.

[med.3012]

It would be advisable not to pollute your mind with Konstantin Meyl's rubbish. What he means to say is:

If I put the transmitter into the aluminium case and close the door, energy should arrive at the receiver, because I have a wire going through the aluminium case which directly connects the transmitter to the receiver, so the aluminium case had may as well not be there at all.

The energy is not transmitted through the air. Earth is the conducting medium. When earth is not used, water or wires or plasma columns or any such medium may be used instead. Energy propagates through said medium between transmitter and receiver, not the air. The transmitter and receiver are both "isolated" systems in space, but connected through earth. That's why Meyl's experiments work, it has nothing to do with "scalar waves" and penetrating any shielding because there is no shielding. I.E. it's a single wire transmission system.

if the spheres are removed the system would fail ! if earth connections is removed the same thing happen! the idea consist of understanding parallel/serial interaction both at the same time which involve the presence of special mechanism, Dr Konstantin Meyl's didn't mention serial/parallel mechanism, it's a very important idea at least the way i see things ....

[dR-Green]

On missing "spheres"



What's low power?







How small is small?

[med.3012]

@dR-Green
very nice photos ! thanks for sharing your experiments with us, i think my idea is still unclear, in Tesla patent number 787.412 named ART OF TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY THROUGH THE NATURAL MEDIUMS , he used the word art! this why still some people see this men as genius inventor but not as scientist, he simply was an artist...

in your experiments there is no spheres but i still see the parallel interaction because you can't avoid self capacitance.

in Tesla wireless transmitter he used this kind of interaction!





parallel interaction is the relation between the sphere and the large diameter secondary coil, the serial connection is show in the above drawing between the coil and the sphere , Tesla simply used the capacitance portion of the secondary coil with the sphere in order to secure the parallel/serial interaction which is ( in my point of view) the secret key for power amplification !

[dragon]

It is an art because it takes a certain amount of knowledge to calculate and build the coils to obtain a given outcome. Tesla did the work - made mistakes and learned from them. His successes, many of them, were considered genius.

All the quotes and drawings are meaningless unless you build and fail then find the reasons why it failed - that's where true learning takes place.

[dR-Green]

@dR-Green
very nice photos ! thanks for sharing your experiments with us, i think my idea is still unclear, in Tesla patent number 787.412 named ART OF TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY THROUGH THE NATURAL MEDIUMS , he used the word art! this why still some people see this men as genius inventor but not as scientist, he simply was an artist...

in your experiments there is no spheres but i still see the parallel interaction because you can't avoid self capacitance.

in Tesla wireless transmitter he used this kind of interaction!

parallel interaction is the relation between the sphere and the large diameter secondary coil, the serial connection is show in the above drawing between the coil and the sphere , Tesla simply used the capacitance portion of the secondary coil with the sphere in order to secure the parallel/serial interaction which is ( in my point of view) the secret key for power amplification !

I'm not sure that I'd agree with all that, but yes, the coil has self-capacitance in space. This is what I mean by the fact that the transmitter and receiver are both "isolated" systems in space (from each other). They are both independent, each has its own independent self-capacitance to space and one doesn't need the other in order to work by itself. (Meyl's experiments and claimed faster than light measurements all collapse = useless).

The terminal capacity adds to the coil capacity and the resulting frequency is based on the total capacitance of the coil + terminal.

The wave isn't confined to the conductor which is how apparent faster than light propagation velocities have been measured. So maybe your general idea is right in that respect, at least as far as what can be drawn in MS Paint.

[Magnethos]

Some days ago I found a video on youtube about a guy that was able to light a big bulb using only one wire. His technique is quite strange, because he was using one of the 2 wires (I don't know if positive/negative DC/AC) and connected one end of the bulb there. The other end ended in the air, but he attached a combination of capacitor and something more.

[Magnethos]

There is another method that it seems related with the method that I just wrote in the last post (above this one).

This new method speaks about using stray capacitance to complete the circuit. So energy is sent using one wire and the return is a stray capacitance.
"stray capacitance is used to complete the circuit through a standing wave resonant mode."

[med.3012]

It is an art because it takes a certain amount of knowledge to calculate and build the coils to obtain a given outcome. Tesla did the work - made mistakes and learned from them. His successes, many of them, were considered genius.

All the quotes and drawings are meaningless unless you build and fail then find the reasons why it failed - that's where true learning takes place.

mixing the approaches with practices isn't meaningless, i do build, test , share the results, sometimes share the idea before testing it ( maybe someone will do it better ), anyway thanks for the valuable advices.

[Bob Smith]

All Electrical Charge Comes from the Ambient/Aether

Subscribing to the notion of an all-pervasive AETHER as I do, leads to conclusions which will impact our understanding of electrical systems.

Most importantly... All electrical power comes from the ambient/aether. That is to say that the aether is a kind of primordial, undifferentiated omnipresent reservoir of energy in its most basic form, which is tapped in many different ways to produce usable forms of electric charge (and other forms of energy which are outside the scope of this thread). EPD describes "induction" as "polarization of the aether" - just one example.

This understanding of the ambient as source of all electrical charge is going to radically affect the way we envision electrical circuits and transmission systems. If all charge comes from the aether, then is there such thing as a truly closed system?

I would argue that there are gradations in what constitute open and closed electrical systems, and that truly closed systems are rare at best or perhaps better, a logical impossibility. This does not invalidate electrical laws; rather, it allows research to develop within reliable predictable parameters, with reasonable success of replication, while acknowledging that no electrical operation is fully immune from the effects of the surrounding environment at some level.

This being the case, I would propose that certain setups involving resonant coils, though perhaps not all, lend themselves by their open configuration to interacting more actively with the ambient, drawing in or "cohering" (to use a Doc Stiffler term) ambient power.

Examining the nature of electrical forces in the resonant one wire open system, and how to use this kind of system to draw useable electric charge from the ambient to power small loads has been my intent from the beginning.

I realize that my recognition of the ambient as source of all electrical charge and understanding of certain resonant single wire power setups as open systems for drawing charge from the aether are not going to be accepted by all. That's okay - it's part of our freedom which brings richness to our discussion.

But to be candid and honest, this is where I stand:
All electrical charge comes from the ambient/aether; certain resonant SWP systems can be configured as open systems to tap useable charge from the ambient.

Bob

[dR-Green]

in your experiments there is no spheres but i still see the parallel interaction because you can't avoid self capacitance.

in Tesla wireless transmitter he used this kind of interaction!



parallel interaction is the relation between the sphere and the large diameter secondary coil, the serial connection is show in the above drawing between the coil and the sphere

Figure 4



These are Tesla's diagrams which he used to illustrate how his system works





The analogy of a hand pump doesn't work for Meyl's view of it, because what Meyl has in his mind and is spreading under the guise of the original isn't correct.