Single Wire Power - A Search for Ambient Power to do Wwork

[Bob Smith]

OK gradient if qualified as you did and can be discussed such as Tesla's radiant. And I will try to explain why it changes from medium to medium. The reference to Tom Bearden also trys to explain the potential gradient with respect to Vacuum. I have used this term over 50 years. If you would kindly steer this in a meaningful direction thanks.

In the Tesla experiment the potential voltage is much higher at the plate which is
elevated however it takes a long period of time to charge the plate due to the poor conductivity of the atmosphere. However there are several work arounds that Tesla
used to improve this I will leave this to discussion. There is another scheme below for the ground
to accumulate charge more rapidly. Can you identify this?
There is AC wave that traverses the potential gradient, this is vertical.
What role does the horizontal projected radiant energy have ? (recall that the medium is a poor conductor)
By insulating the plate what effect does this have?
Is there a charge separation mechanism ? (several builders on here have done this correctly)
Can the dipole sustain and enlarge a field ?

My flash light is radiant but it is not what Tesla is using. Be careful of using general terms.
The slope of the equation = m .. from the latin 1635 gradien
but the ancients used the term delta along with a discriptor.
energy is not born in the ambient and it is not destroyed or consumed it is a disruptive philosophy.
no capital letters necessary. Ambiens Latin meaning encompassing or surrounding.

Hello Mikrovolt
My time is very limited these days, so I have been unable post.
Yes, Bearden's look at gradient in the vacuum merits some attention. I have yet to delve into it. Hopefully later.

So yes, there is gradient in the regular electrostatic realm and there is gradient in the vacuum as well. Point very well taken. DavidE and I are both speaking from this perspective.

Overall, we have difficulty on a few different levels , the way I see it. Two major ones are:

- we lack a common language to discuss terms and phenomena
- there is a lack of common consensus on what is actually happening due to a clash of paradigms.

Your point about the ambient is important. But what constitutes ambient for some may be seen as very incomplete by others, such as myself. For me, the ambient includes not only the electrostatic but also the aether. They can be separated via resonance, and conceptually for discussion purposes. However, at the everyday level, they co-penetrate.
More later.
Bob

[mikrovolt]

Perhaps another approach is Heaviside/Tesla

Static charge is ok but there are other charges that are much better
for accomplishing work. The definition of types of ambient energy sources
usually scavenge ambient energy from the enviroment. Because one wire
uses both pressure waves and EM waves there is concept problem.
Lorentz did a fine job of confounding truth as well.

Dollard differs in his approach but both have explanations that most never
grasp. Both have different shuttling methods the meg and the alexanderson
along with and different math. Since both recognize Heaviside we can compare.
I give a caution many websites link to Steven Greer baiting toward an esoteric agenda.

Heaviside was concerned about the energy that travels the outside of the wire.
The heaviside flow enters perpendicular. You say that at resonance the component
parts separate. What I am reading is that the radiant charged particle is at resonance and
does not drop into a lower state as readily.

https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/2013/10/

[Bob Smith]

Perhaps another approach is Heaviside/Tesla

Static charge is ok but there are other charges that are much better
for accomplishing work. The definition of types of ambient energy sources
usually scavenge ambient energy from the enviroment. Because one wire
uses both pressure waves and EM waves there is concept problem.
Lorentz did a fine job of confounding truth as well.

Dollard differs in his approach but both have explanations that most never
grasp. Both have different shuttling methods the meg and the alexanderson
along with and different math. Since both recognize Heaviside we can compare.
I give a caution many websites link to Steven Greer baiting toward an esoteric agenda.

Heaviside was concerned about the energy that travels the outside of the wire.
The heaviside flow enters perpendicular. You say that at resonance the component
parts separate. What I am reading is that the radiant charged particle is at resonance and
does not drop into a lower state as readily.

https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/2013/10/

Hi Mikrovolt
Thanks for the fine article. It certainly supports the concept of drawing power from the ambient, and shows how engineering textbooks and programs of study have been un-coupled from Maxwell's (and Faraday's) foundational observations (and equations), and distanced from the role of asymmetry in drawing power from the aether. In this sense, the contemporary EM paradigm is a house built on sand; it cannot stand, and will not stand the test of time.

Your comments on radiant charged particles already at resonance are interesting. I wonder then, if raising a circuit to a resonant state, with its subsequent separation of magnetism from dielectricity, in fact creates a kind of compatible environment for the resonant radiant (ambient) charge to enter. In addition, because of the separation between magnetism and dielectricity due to the circuit's resonance, perhaps also, we find ourselves with asymmetrical conditions required for ambient power to enter the system.

To summarize then,
- resonance >> separation of magnetism and dielectricity, giving rise to asymmetrical conditions allowing for the influx of (resonant) radiant (ambient/aether) power.

Regards,
Bob

[med.3012]

Hi Mikrovolt
Thanks for the nice article!

[mikrovolt]

Taking a break from tesla to touch on asymmetric
from visual approach and keeping in mind the disruptive transients.

spike.jpg

you decide where the transients line up on the L-wave simulation ?

Longitudinal wave simulation


There have been some fast learners that read and understood the evil hoax
made on people hooking them to secret symmetrics when Maxwell's work was based
on asymmetric.
Here is an asymmetric conversion and the scope shots, amp meter can help to see the difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advKNZkXIpQ

energetics forum discussion here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...c-systems.html

An energetic radiant pathway is more likely improved upon ...
Understanding that the symmetric model concealed truth and to forced oil consumption
yet today very few find value in asymmetric modeled technology.

[DavidE]

Radiant Energy - A product of a hairpin circuit or the like (on the dielectric side of the circuit).

Considering it a form of usable energy, how can we detect its presence? What unique properties does it possess? How do we measure these properties?

Does it have a magnetic component?

Does it have a longitudinal component?

Or is it an opportunistic neutral charge in search of resistance?


If we at will produce Radiant energy (or attract) it and use it to light a *load, how do we ascertain that radiant is actually the source power?

Many of you scoff at the term Ambient, ok... let's set aside that term for the moment.

*This demonstration via a hairpin circuit has been accomplished countless times.

Reference
http://pesn.com/2012/07/09/9602130_K...ies_to_Market/

[med.3012]

Radiant Energy - A product of a hairpin circuit or the like (on the dielectric side of the circuit).

Considering it a form of usable energy, how can we detect its presence? What unique properties does it possess? How do we measure these properties?

Does it have a magnetic component?

Does it have a longitudinal component?

Or is it an opportunistic neutral charge in search of resistance?


If we at will produce Radiant energy (or attract) it and use it to light a *load, how do we ascertain that radiant is actually the source power?

Many of you scoff at the term Ambient, ok... let's set aside that term for the moment.

*This demonstration via a hairpin circuit has been accomplished countless times.

Reference
http://pesn.com/2012/07/09/9602130_K...ies_to_Market/

Hi David,

i have an opinion rather than reply! Radiant energy is a kind of reversed electricity, it flow in more rich dimensions than our ordinary electricity can flow in, this result in a complicated situation where the current play the role of voltage and vise versa ... another behavior is the situation where they are vertical to each other, in radiant energy the current can be found in vertical position compared the flow of radiant voltage, we have a problem here is the laws of electrostatic induction which manage the work of radiant energy to be cold electricity in wire.. magnetic field may exist in another shape in radiant energy the same apply to electric field , in reality we don't know which kind of electricity we are using if we convert it to useful energy , in some stage you could measure the voltage or the current even if the source of your system was radiant !! my think is that can't measure it in original state because it's a source of unlimited energy. hope this help

[DavidE]

med.3012

Thank you!

Radiant energy is a kind of reversed electricity

Many inventors have come to conclude that there are force charges that represent yin and yan (extents). Like two ends of an energetic spectrum (example: transverse-longitudinal). I have also seen this and discovered ways to utilize this force - but, still struggle to develop a clearer picture of specific properties that make it up.

Example: Many times it can light a load like an LED no matter how you place the LED in the circuit. In this example, it appears as though the anode and cathode operation of the LED is ignored... but when the power hits the resistance point, it lights the load. This power on another level can be rectified and produce hundreds of volts with considerable amps. This force to be manifested interacts with the source battery, but doesn't deplete it relative to amounts of energy produced.

Any time there is an exploration of this other side of electrical force... a thousand explanations emerge that do more to blur recognizing it for what it is - in it simplest parts. Hence the search.

In certain test, the magnetic component becomes immeasurable. In other test great distances can be traveled with no loss of integrity - and in some cases, the signal gains strength over distance. As if there is an interaction with the environment.

And most maddening of all you can power loads without (measurable) current. In my simple aged brain, that shouldn't be possible.

When this force appears in a circuit, it behaves by a seemingly inverse set of rules. Insulators conduct (versus resist flow), on some level it conducts with all forms of mass. In many ways it acts like environmental static charge.

I think that whatever this force is, we all interact with it everyday, no matter where we are or what we do. But it is a fundamental force that plays its part as an element of nature, and only emerges dynamically based on opposing potentials, and the limits of the local dielectric.

Its a mysterious energetic shadow. The harder we look for the description of what causes the shadow, the more elusive it seems.

[med.3012]

@David


sometimes when i watch the videos of great OU inventors (.....) i feel badly, this look like if someone know the way to great water stream but he sell the information without asking the big question why this great water stream exist?

radiant energy and behind it the unlimited source of power make the universe turn without visible force is there to make us ask the right questions, everything in this universe is moving and have to turn in order to keep the life on this planet, in reality there's no static charge, virtual vacuum fluctuation is what make the electron has a charge, the speed of fluctuation is very very high but it's well defined! this mean everything is related to each other from the tiny tiny virtual particle until the very big clustering galaxies or the universe will fall down !!

i will ask the question of Tom Bearden , what is inside the electron that make the virtual vacuum behave in a specific way toward it ? my point of view is there is a kind of code, the code that can't be touchable, this is why the universe can start from a tiny point to be as we know today ... million of light years and so on ...!

i think they already know some big secrets about radiant energy but they kept it in the dark, sometimes i explain the one wire behavior as the logarithm of zero lim log(x) = -infinity, so only one wire could transmit the power while the zero point go to - infinity and can be taken from the air, earth ground or even the empty space, zero point is any point outside the active circuit . there's two limit of radiant energy that work in different manner but finally they meet each other... this is what i am thinking about.

[DavidE]

med.3012

Do you have a circuit built so you can do some testing? Sooner or later we need to do the hard bench work and compare results.

Thinking and collaborating is a good place to start... but the new distinctions and interpretations will likely come about from doing replications, as a team.

[med.3012]

@David

i have some interesting experiments, i also have a documents that can be downloaded here :

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf

i also have a thread here, the resonance energy device explained collaborating is a must, maybe someone has a good idea but in practical field he's weak, i am interested in using the capacitor as coil using an extended Tesla Bi-filar coil, this device work as a single wire power transmitting system with a kind of amplification using the induced rotating electric field as a source of ambient electrons ... more details in my documents,


unfortunately i don't see what i expected from free energy searchers... this is why i opened the above thread to keep the idea working even in low level, i am sure about the idea behind the E-TBC but i need more contributors, in my thread i think loudly to keep my brain working on it, maybe i gain the attention of other members who know ?

another derivative device came into play called the mixed E-TBC, this device can be seen as two E-TBC but it's not, radiant energy don't exist in the mixed E-TBC (this don't mean it can't be used as OU device... ) this lead me to think there's a phase in voltage produced in each part from the mixed E-TBC and the test i did prove this, here you are the scope :






using a simple transistor oscillator with the mixed E-TBC gave the above scope, so this device is able to produce current in one side and voltage in the other side, this prove Don Smith theory and prove his device do exist !

the following drawing show how the mixed E-TBC can be built:



what i understand recently is the important of matching L2 with L1 for better results, so wire length may play a critical rule, anyway your comments are welcome and appreciated!

[DavidE]

med.2012

I have reviewed your document and much of that work opens many doors of opportunity. But I do want to be careful to keep consistent on Bob Smith's thread to discuss SWP and how it may do work with a form of less understood energy.

My challenge with your document is that its a bit comprehensive for me to get my arms around it... so far. But I will keep it close.

It is harder than it should be to collaborate here. Many posters want to argue about what inventor is responsible for what effect - and this keeps us locked into dependence upon the current system. The fog of confusion stops us from advancing.

Since only small number of posters have wanted to contribute to this thread in a cooperative way - in a few days I may post a test circuit so that others can replicate many unique effects, then we can work together on what is observed.

Unique Effects.
-Running loads without current
-Wireless energetic coupling
-Converting HF/HV to Amperage
-Creation of Multiple Energetic nodes (output) within the circuit
-Several forms of power in one circuit

The circuit can be built for less than $10 and will run from most any kind of 12v battery.

If I make this available to this thread (Bob's) only posters that replicate can exchange relative to what they experience. No gallery cat calls from non-replicators. The hope is to open our minds to new interpretations of the energetic world around us, in a productive way.

Is this of interest to anyone?

[med.3012]

@David

Thanks very much for your reply, it would be nice to see your work and learn from it especially converting HV/HF to amperage , this is awesome, in reality this may solve my system problem also, anyway most OU device depend on the same ideas in a way or in another...

i am interested in your system !

[DavidE]

med.3012

Thank you for your response.

I have nothing to teach. My offer is to share a circuit that has much to teach. The point is to build it, "observe and notate" what is experienced. Before... any interpretation is assigned.

The modern mind is so tuned to quickly tag phenomena - thus often masking any new possibilities. So many invoke the name of famous inventors without having a clue to the real meaning behind the distinctions that they shared in their age. Language meaning changes in some way, shape or form everyday... so claiming that by reading another's aged text, we somehow know the original intent... is just false.

Most here want to only glean what they perceive as the gold. They want to take and make their own - when in truth, it belongs to all, always. But that doesn't stop the greedy opportunistic service to self population from doing what they do.

I happen to believe that the gold will only ever come to those that prove worthy. And that path is comprised of a journey of trials...

Replications tend to impact social reality. So I am looking for a minimum of five people that are willing to replicate the circuit and report results utilizing the circuit. The results will indicate the following... or not.

Unique effects - Lecher/Tesla Circuit
-Running loads without current
-Wireless energetic coupling
-Converting HF/HV to Amperage
-Creation of Multiple Energetic nodes (output) within the circuit
-Several forms of power in one circuit

For those that wish to follow this trail, please provide an e-mail address (by PM) and I will forward the schematic and test set up documentation. Everything is designed to require minimal electronics skills, only necessary to follow documentation and process... then note results.

If an individual has difficulty accessing materials (wire, transistor, diode, etc), I may elect to provide them at my expense.

[DavidE]

Replication team assembled.

On to building and testing.