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  • One thing that I will say about this setup is that it is an open system.
    Resonance seems to be an important key which enables a system to interact with the ambient to transform energy in the ambient into a useable format.
    Bob
    Last edited by Bob Smith; 09-06-2015, 08:44 PM. Reason: clarification

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    • Dielectricity, Resonance and Doing Work

      Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
      One thing that I will say about this setup is that it is an open system.
      Resonance seems to be an important key which enables a system to interact with the ambient to transform energy in the ambient into a useable format.
      Bob
      A few comments to refresh some past points made:

      During the EST Conference Panel Discussion, Eric Dollard made a number of statements about electricity. At one point, he comments on a FE researcher loosening the molecular bonds in water with dielectricity. I can't remember exactly where in the video, but the whole thing's worth watching, and can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoLH21ITys

      I would submit that dielectricity is what we're after in speaking of accessing ambient power to power a single wire load.

      In one of Eric's earlier Borderlands videos, he shows how resonance separates magnetism from dielectricity in a coil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...UBKgnnc#t=1108
      YT user kdkinen replicates EPD's demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmAyYhnRgc

      Magnetism is associated with amperage and heat, and dielectricity with voltage. It may in fact be that under certain conditions, pure dielectricity may interact with certain coil configs, capacitor arrangements or batteries to produce various coloured sparks or amounts of heat (or lack thereof).

      I think we might get further ahead by looking at ways in which dielectricity, once separated from magnetism, can be utilized to do work. It may be that in order to do some serious work besides lighting LEDs, it needs...

      a) to be converted to conventional electricity (AV plug is one way, but what follows?)
      b) to have a useful...
      - charge density,
      - pressure
      - resistance/impedance
      How are these determined/accessed?

      Bob
      Last edited by Bob Smith; 09-29-2015, 10:49 PM. Reason: clarification of terms

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      • Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
        A few comments to refresh some past points made:

        During the EST Conference Panel Discussion, Eric Dollard made a number of statements about electricity. At one point, he comments on a FE researcher loosening the molecular bonds in water with dielectricity. I can't remember exactly where in the video, but the whole thing's worth watching, and can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoLH21ITys

        (...)
        Aski him how would he do the reverse ?

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        • Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
          One thing that I will say about this setup is that it is an open system.
          Resonance seems to be an important key which enables a system to interact with the ambient to transform energy in the ambient into a useable format.
          Bob
          Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
          A few comments to refresh some past points made:

          During the EST Conference Panel Discussion, Eric Dollard made a number of statements about electricity. At one point, he comments on a FE researcher loosening the molecular bonds in water with dielectricity. I can't remember exactly where in the video, but the whole thing's worth watching, and can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWoLH21ITys

          I would submit that dielectricity is what we're after in speaking of accessing ambient power to power a single wire load.

          In one of Eric's earlier Borderlands videos, he shows how resonance separates magnetism from dielectricity in a coil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...UBKgnnc#t=1108
          YT user kdkinen replicates EPD's demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DmAyYhnRgc

          Magnetism is associated with amperage and heat, and dielectricity with voltage. It may in fact be that under certain conditions, pure dielectricity may interact with certain coil configs, capacitor arrangements or batteries to produce various coloured sparks or amounts of heat (or lack thereof).

          I think we might get further ahead by looking at ways in which dielectricity, once separated from magnetism, can be utilized to do work. It may be that in order to do some serious work besides lighting LEDs, it needs...

          a) to be converted to conventional electricity (AV plug is one way, but what follows?)
          b) to have a useful...
          - charge density,
          - pressure
          - resistance/impedance
          How are these determined/accessed?

          Bob
          All the reading, research, experimenting and observing I’ve done leads me to believe that resonance is responsible for nullifying or at the very least weakening the inertial lines of force that keep objects in position. These inertial lines of force may in fact be synonymous with gravity.

          It is also my belief that resonance weakens the inertial barrier between an open electrical system and the aether. You “poke” the aether with a circuit oscillating at the right resonant frequency, and its inertial forces that keep it external to the system weaken. In this manner, resonance can be seen as a means of weakening the inertial barrier between the aether and the open electrical system. Resonance, in effect, is the door that opens the passageway between the two, allowing the aether’s immense reservoir of primordial potential to flood into the system as electrical charge, or more precisely as dielectricity. There is much more to this, but it is late, and I will resume in the very near future.
          Bob
          Last edited by Bob Smith; 10-17-2015, 06:05 AM. Reason: clarification

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          • Resonance, Square Waves & Compressed Harmonics

            Originally posted by Bob Smith View Post
            All the reading, research, experimenting and observing I’ve done leads me to believe that resonance is responsible for nullifying or at the very least weakening the inertial lines of force that keep objects in position. These inertial lines of force may in fact be synonymous with gravity.

            It is also my belief that resonance weakens the inertial barrier between an open electrical system and the aether. You “poke” the aether with a circuit oscillating at the right resonant frequency, and its inertial forces that keep it external to the system weaken. In this manner, resonance can be seen as a means of weakening the inertial barrier between the aether and the open electrical system. Resonance, in effect, is the door that opens the passageway between the two, allowing the aether’s immense reservoir of primordial potential to flood into the system as electrical charge, or more precisely as dielectricity. There is much more to this, but it is late, and I will resume in the very near future.
            Bob
            I should also mention that resonance with the right accompanying levels of overtones/harmonics is important in loosening the bonds that restrain the aether from entering open system circuits. If we look at successful single wire replications involving high voltage, they often come up as a square wave on the oscilloscope. The square wave, to put it simply, contains compressed harmonics of the fundamental, giving it the shape it has.

            Resonance with harmonics --- square wave --- single wire power from the aether. They all fit together.
            Bob

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            • Single Wire Power Transfer from Plasma Bulb

              Here's a new video from YT user Thomas Ferko showing a single wire power transfer from a plasma bulb. Charge is being drawn from a 7.5 W plasma bulb AND from ground wire in home to light a 220V 40W bulb:
              https://youtu.be/NmKg1Fnnr7s
              Bob
              Last edited by Bob Smith; 11-08-2015, 05:48 PM. Reason: Fix URL

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              • Interesting intro to plasma ball and plasma properties:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCi5rOy0Xnc
                Bob

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                • plasma - nice find Bob

                  Single wire power - Its a perplexing occurance and I guess each of us probe the effect differently I personally try to find anomolies in standard dogma or perhaps that which is ignored for conveniance and see If I can prise the lid open a little whilst trying to keep things simple. In truth one thing leads to another and theres more and more to consider. The term 'resonance' for instance we use it and assume each reader is imagining the same effect. There seems to me in electrical theory to be very different types of resonance with very different effects . I see Mikrovolt mentions Lorentz a few posts back a quick review of the force law attributed to him shows the electrostatic 90 deg vector is simply omited.
                  I think we can agree resonance is aye a big factor but which one?
                  I ask consideration here of six variables in the state 'perfect' … as described for instance in the sentance 'assume a perfect pendulum' In electrical terms then at resonance an event can be assumed to be occuring whilst using (a sloppy term in the electrical world IMHO) using 'no real power'
                  that is when power = VI cos Φ= 0. This applies to series or parellel resonance where voltage leads or lags respectively by 90 deg although the effects are very different.( review capacitive battery charging)
                  and one other .. when V and I are anti phase ergo 180 deg displaced.
                  These three 'perfect' resonant possibilities now (in my mind) must be cross multiplied by the again 'perfect' but actually impossible waveforms to wit the impulse wave (square wave) and the sine wave.
                  (Sine waves and Parellel resonance are well taught) … in fact its the only one that is taught, along with electromagnatism, so I won't dwell on it .. we all know ohms law .. volts and amps and wot not
                  counter space , and -1 power , there's not many books in my library, and no units to describe the effect anyway.
                  Is it possible for a square (impulse) wave to be brought to a resonant condition ? This video demonstration by fellow energetics member gotoluc seems to show very clearly that any waveform
                  .. including very sharp pulses can create a resonant state,
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJQvqTpBdiQ
                  I suggest here that the harmonic progression of a (perfect) sine wave is different from the progression of a (perfect) square wave. This can be seen used in some fields such as .. frequency selection using quartz crystals and filters, grid power line failure by harmonic progression, and some (old) teaching of armature reaction. You may like to view this as electricity (whatever that is) divided like a road of houses odd numbers one side even numbers the other. overtones and harmonics respectivly, I do.
                  All I try to point out here is when using the blanket term 'resonance' take a deep breath and take a hard look at what you actually mean.
                  For instance Which particular type of wave (Transverse or longtitudinal) do you consider here.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yaqUI4b974
                  Where is all the predictive maths for these events that give form to chaos ? Where is the engineering science and units of the electrical longtitudinal wave and its inevitable off spring? Its certainly not going to be volts amps and ohms law !
                  In fact we don't know the laws, we dont know the units. Counter space ? Negative power? One thing I do know is it can be manipulated and adjusted to work the problem being no one seems to have simplified the engineering principles or acknowledged the units which could make for easy replication. Perhaps EPD does but he's certainly not making it simplified .. or easy.
                  Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                  • for consideration ..

                    a progression of video's and web pages for your entertainment which progress this thinking ..
                    Harmonic and overtone progression
                    http://static.transcat.com/media/pdf/PowerHarmonics.pdf
                    crystals driven in overtone or harmonic mode
                    http://www.northcountryradio.com/PDFs/070302007.pdf
                    quartz crystals being polarized (A'la T.H.Moray perhaps.)
                    Just as volts amps ect are founded on electro-magnetic polarized principles so the electrostatic phenomena has IMHO some parallels for instance .. To pole quartz being as important to electrostatics as to magnetize iron is to electromagnetism.
                    Piezoelectric Materials: Crystal Orientation and Poling Direction | COMSOL Blog
                    here is quartz crystal being Poled by German researcher Thomas Trowoger prior to being used in a pyramid construction which in turn drives motors. Its a long video but the piece that I would like to interest you in is circa 0H40min as the man poles quartz.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7GYlo-6Kng
                    That then leads me to ponder this
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2kY6FFpgRs
                    Last edited by Duncan; 11-11-2015, 10:31 AM.
                    Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                    • Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                      I suggest here that the harmonic progression of a (perfect) sine wave is different from the progression of a (perfect) square wave.
                      ?

                      Harmonics - Sine, Square & PWM - YouTube
                      http://www.teslascientific.com/

                      "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                      "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                      • Duncan,
                        Thank you for your post. I don't pretend to understand a lot of the technical details and formulas you put forward to illustrate your points. However, I believe we both see that resonance plays an important role in the energy collection process. Interesting that you raise the whole chrystal issue. I think a person would be hard pressed to deny their value in gathering energy from the ambient, or radiant energy and amplifying properties in their many forms. If I had more time and energy, I'd be playing with these as well.

                        Thanks again for the post - always interested in what you have to say.
                        Bob

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                        • I desire to do good to my fellow creatures, even to the Cui bonos. Ollie H

                          Well thanks for reading me GR and thanks are also owed, (I guess) for posting this clip although In truth, I'm not at all sure what you wish it to convey to me and From your question mark I assume thats visa versa? Thanks also for your encouragement Bob . Its inevitable that we don't understand 'bits' if it wasn't so this nut would have been cracked long ago.
                          It is the mathematical construct of the area under the curve/s that is of interest to me … not the curves.. themselves. Any instrument and particularly an oscilloscope or spectrum analyzer is designed to show and reflect an interpretation of electricity. It is designed to show the viewer exactly what they would expect to see using electromagnetic norms And it does . Even the clip I showed by gotoluc is only there to show 'a tendency' It is rather that which is not shown that is of interest.
                          It is just a view I take but it connects rather like this .. I am constantly being shown and having demonstrated the actions and effects of electromagnetism and the electromagnetic wave.
                          All predictable (if complex) and expected . It is I suggest exactly where we should not be looking.Let me try and expand on that by the practical example of another. Our mathematics in this day and age are pretty much constrained by infinitesimal calculus so the perfect Sine wave which we know is impossible (because Pi is an irregular number) becomes established as 'fact' . Ask your oscilloscope for its 1 volt square wave reference and it will show you such a thing even though it can't exist (as nothing can change state in zero time) so for convenience the maths .. and so the instruments lie . Click sin 90 Deg on your calculator Its sure to tell you 1 and not 0.9999 … nth . The calculators wrong (and it seems a very important wrong.) I need hardly remind anyone here researching 'renewable energy' that its very elusive and sifting through old dogma and looking at instruments that are designed to give expected results when exposed to known phenomena isn't going to be fruitful . We need and should be searching the exceptions !

                          There is no absolute scale of size in the Universe, for it is boundless towards the great and also boundless towards the small. There is no absolute scale of size in nature, and the small may be as important, or more so than the great Oliver Heaviside

                          Lets look at one example in practice and see where the hole is blown through the theory by practical application. Most of what we are taught regarding waveforms comes from the pen of Joseph Fourier
                          of particular interest are the transforms.
                          Concerning sine waves in their simplest form basically informs. hetrodyning F1 and F2 results in f1+f2 , f1-f2 and of course the original f1 and f2 obviously the waves then to mix again adinfinitum.. normally colliding at points it time and space expending energy.

                          Although in theory 'a perfect' sine wave is not possible It is essentual in radio work to get extreamly close. Beating two 'near perfect' sine waves together with the ability to shift one of them 2π radians w.r.t the other and at specific frequency ratio's (one to t'other) can and does take us 'through the mirror'
                          to a different world. It can bring about the 'perfect square' or switch Bob conciders.
                          An infinate ammount of what our instruments and mathematics assumes is nothing proves to be an almost limitless energy supply. Here is fellow member MJN outlineing that effect from solid practical experiance This key post is copied from his thread on water fracture but the anomaly regarding waves and switching would obviously apply .. 'anywhere and everywhere' including a single wire.

                          First I will explain the frequencies.

                          The frequencies I chose could have been other frequencies, but, the difference between them is important.

                          If you look at the first frequency of 120mhz, the secound is 6X to 720mhz. We now look at the heterodyning frequencies:-

                          Without filtering out we will get many orders of exact frequencies with a finite space between them. If we were to start with only 3X difference between these two frequencies we would get a different result.

                          Example:-

                          100mhz and 300mhz

                          200 400
                          200 600
                          400 800
                          400 1200

                          100mhz and 600mhz


                          500 700
                          200 1200
                          1000 1400
                          400 2400
                          2000 2800

                          Now you can see the difference with a 6X spacing rather than a 3X spacing. Each new frequency will interact in a heterodyning mode as well and you need to run this through a computer program to see the full frequency spectrum.
                          MJN
                          Kind Regards Duncan
                          Last edited by Duncan; 11-12-2015, 07:19 AM.
                          Whatever you can do,or dream you can,begin it.Boldness has genius,power and magic in it.Begin it now.

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                          • Originally posted by Duncan View Post
                            Well thanks for reading me GR and thanks are also owed, (I guess) for posting this clip although In truth, I'm not at all sure what you wish it to convey to me and From your question mark I assume thats visa versa?
                            I'm not sure what you were actually saying and I assume that some things are well known when perhaps they are not.

                            The harmonics of sine and square waves are the same frequencies theoretically. The intensity of the harmonics is different, which is what gives them different sounds. Through adjusting the pulse width of a square wave various harmonics are suppressed. A sine wave by definition sounds like a sine wave due to the lack of harmonics, and every conceivable waveform can be broken down to a collection of sine waves that are sounding at the harmonic frequencies corresponding to that waveform. When all sine waves are playing together at the correct frequencies and intensity, the output is a square wave.
                            http://www.teslascientific.com/

                            "Knowledge is cosmic. It does not evolve or unfold in man. Man unfolds to an awareness of it. He gradually discovers it." - Walter Russell

                            "Once men died for Truth, but now Truth dies at the hands of men." - Manly P. Hall

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                            • Duncan,
                              Very interesting post! I know heterodyning got a major push with regard to the TPU on the other big energy research forum back around 2007. Perhaps it was too successful...

                              Stan Dayo notes that Henry Moray used a set of three (I think) heterodyning coils in one of his devices.

                              So are you basically saying that a heterodyned set of signals will produce a greater volume under the combined wave form than would be produced separately?
                              Bob

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                              • fluids can be said to have memory which can help show why fast rising impulse
                                would be an advantage over slower sine at a specific frequency for a particular media.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...bBB3zuGc#t=448

                                A thixotropic effect on aether allows formation of longer radiation pattern.
                                This may also contribute to high Q coil physical characteristics such as
                                natural amplification of weak signal in a crystal radio receiver.
                                Last edited by mikrovolt; 11-13-2015, 12:23 AM.

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