Problem with Barbosa Leal circuit. What to do?

[Magnethos]

Hello Magnethos. I can only confirm what I have seen in my own tests. A few others have tested and could not get it to work either. My earth ground was a copper water pipe that runs horizontally buried in the ground. It is possible that you need a really extensive earth ground rod array system to get this setup to work, but with my more basic earth ground I did not see any unusual effect.

You must wrap a few turns of the secondary wire closely around the outside of the toroid to limit the current in the secondary. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think I was measuring around 80 Amps on the secondary with a few turns of the secondary wrapped around the toroid. The amount of current that flows in the secondary will also depend on the number of turns in your primary winding. You really do need a clamp on ammeter to test with a Barbosa and Leal arrangment so you can monitor the current levels closely.

Your mains breaker may be popping due to a current imbalance between the phase and neutral (ground fault). You won't have this problem if you use a battery and inverter, but then you probably won't get the single transformer Barbosa and Leal setup to work at all if you use a battery and inverter. At least not if you use it the way you showed in your diagram, which does match one of Barbosa and Leal's patent drawings, more or less.

I think that also, that the mains breaker is popping due a current imbalance.

Well, the diagram I'm using if from another guy in youtube that got the same schematic running using the wall socket. Ariovaldo also used the same schematic and also worked. I think it's not working for me because there is a problem with the current imbalance that trips the main breaker.

Another thing I've thought is that I'm using a thinner wire compared with other videos. Mine is 16 mm thick. In other videos I don't know how mm they're using, but they look thicker than mine.

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I think that also, that the mains breaker is popping due a current imbalance.

Well, the diagram I'm using if from another guy in youtube that got the same schematic running using the wall socket. Ariovaldo also used the same schematic and also worked. I think it's not working for me because there is a problem with the current imbalance that trips the main breaker.

Another thing I've thought is that I'm using a thinner wire compared with other videos. Mine is 16 mm thick. In other videos I don't know how mm they're using, but they look thicker than mine.

I used 5.2mm diameter wire on the secondary and it could handle the 80 Amps OK with very little heating. Yes, the diagram you posted matches Ariovaldo's diagram. Ariovaldo based his diagram on a device that was supposed to have been made by Barbosa and Leal, which Ariovaldo purchased and disassembled, so it should be a correct diagram if that is true. The reason this setup works when plugged into the mains is bcause of a ground loop from the hot phase back to the grounded neutral at the mains service panel. Such a ground loop is not free energy. It may possibly fool some power meters however, but the power is still comeing from the mains. If you use a battery and inverter you eliminate this ground loop problem, but then you may find that the device doesn't work at all.

Edit: Ariovaldo stated that both him and the previous owner of the Barbosa and leal device couldn't get it working.

[Magnethos]

I used 5.2mm diameter wire on the secondary and it could handle the 80 Amps OK with very little heating. Yes, the diagram you posted matches Ariovaldo's diagram. Ariovaldo based his diagram on a device that was supposed to have been made by Barbosa and Leal, which Ariovaldo purchased and disassembled, so it should be a correct diagram if that is true. The reason this setup works when plugged into the mains is bcause of a ground loop from the hot phase back to the grounded neutral at the mains service panel. Such a ground loop is not free energy. It may possibly fool some power meters however, but the power is still comeing from the mains. If you use a battery and inverter you eliminate this ground loop problem, but then you may find that the device doesn't work at all.

I believe that Barbosa leal system works if correctly built, because I've seen another patent from another guy that uses a similar system (but this second guy is not getting the power from the ground).

This second guy 'breaks' the electromagnetic wave in two, having the electric and magnetic components appart. It amplifies the electric part and then mixes them to build the electromagnetic wave. In this case the output is higher than the input and the source of that amplification are the virtual photons.

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I believe that Barbosa leal system works if correctly built, because I've seen another patent from another guy that uses a similar system (but this second guy is not getting the power from the ground).

This second guy 'breaks' the electromagnetic wave in two, having the electric and magnetic components appart. It amplifies the electric part and then mixes them to build the electromagnetic wave. In this case the output is higher than the input and the source of that amplification are the virtual photons.

Hello Magnethos. It could be that if built right it will work, but the device Ariovaldo tested with and then later disassembled was supposed to have been built by Barbosa and leal, but Ariovaldo stated that he and the previous owner could not get it to work. Very strange, no?

What is the name of this other guy, and do you have a patent number?

[Magnethos]

Hello Magnethos. It could be that if built right it will work, but the device Ariovaldo tested with and then later disassembled was supposed to have been built by Barbosa and leal, but Ariovaldo stated that he and the previous owner could not get it to work. Very strange, no?

What is the name of this other guy, and do you have a patent number?

I think there is a lot of bad information about the device, and there is a extremelly small amount of information telling the thruth. Some time ago I saw a guy saying that there was missing information in the conventional and modified versions of Barbosa. He shown a slightly different version that, in my oppinion, was better than the average ones.

Well, the inventor is Steven Mezini. The patent is called Virtual Photon Power Converter.

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I think there is a lot of bad information about the device, and there is a extremelly small amount of information telling the thruth. Some time ago I saw a guy saying that there was missing information in the conventional and modified versions of Barbosa. He shown a slightly different version that, in my oppinion, was better than the average ones.

Well, the inventor is Steven Mezini. The patent is called Virtual Photon Power Converter.

Thanks for the info on Steven Mezini.
US patent number is: US8913366
I will read through the patent when I have time, but I have found that patents are often very hard to decipher or just too vague.

[Magnethos]

Thanks for the info on Steven Mezini.
US patent number is: US8913366
I will read through the patent when I have time, but I have found that patents are often very hard to decipher or just too vague.

I've personally emailed to Steven and I got no answer from him. He has a website where he explains a little bit better the concept of his invention. The device doesn't seems very difficult to build, but I don't understand what he wants to say when he speaks about 'discrete fields'.

I've just openend a thread about the subject, if you want to participate in.

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I've personally emailed to Steven and I got no answer from him. He has a website where he explains a little bit better the concept of his invention. The device doesn't seems very difficult to build, but I don't understand what he wants to say when he speaks about 'discrete fields'.

I think discrete fields in this context means completely separate fields, as opposed to say an EM wave that has both electric and magnetic field components that are intrinsically linked together. Just think of it as two separate fields, one an electric field and one a magnetic field.

[Magnethos]

I think discrete fields in this context means completely separate fields, as opposed to say an EM wave that has both electric and magnetic field components that are intrinsically linked together. Just think of it as two separate fields, one an electric field and one a magnetic field.

I think that also. Use electric and magnetic fields appart.