Premature
Gentlemen,
I will probably get some wrath for saying this, but I think congratulations are premature. I fully believe in this motors ability to self power. But, we have not yet seen this motor turn on its own. Ufopolitic's example did slow down as all of us builders have seen. When you add shunts, you will see it is not so simple. The magnetic fields of the stators are greatly altered by the shunts and the balance is lost, losing the acceleration gained by the ramps. Shunt science is a whole other animal that we will need to conquer before we can claim success with this motor. We will prevail, but it is too soon to break out the beer. Sorry Mack, your jubilant response tells me we are really close but my motor does not self run. I have accelerating ramps that release the rotor magnets, shunted stator magnets that are now out of balance. I am now experimenting with the stator angles and different types of shunts. No one wins if we claim success before we have a working example that can be shown.
Respectfully,
Randy
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING AND CARING ABOUT THIS PLANET.. ALL THE BEST MACK
THE REST OF THE EXPERIMENTERS A BIG THANK YOU ESPECIALLY TO UFO. EVEN THOUGH OUR OLD NEMESIS TINSEL FROM THE OTHER SITE IS FULL OF HIMSELF AND SAYS NASTY STUFF ABOUT YOU GENTLEMEN ONLY FOOLS LISTEN TO HIM . A BIG THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL INVOLVED RON
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Vindication is wonderful!
Ufo,
Thank you and God bless you for believing in me. Thank you for spending your time and resources to prove to the world that my motor is a reality. I can not express the joy and happiness you have given me this day.
Thanks also to everyone who assisted and also spent precious time and hard earned money to test things along the way. Tachyoncatcher, BroMikey, Wantomake, Turion, and everyone else. Thanks also to those who simply kept an open mind.
Please continue onward everyone. Better designs will flow from this one!
It's out! There's no turning back now!
Mack
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Yeah I know I am hilarious. Show me what you have old man. I been
like this forever.Lets see your rig.
Originally posted by shylo View PostMikey your funny, I'm just trying to say just using magnets and layers of steel will find balance , gravity needs to be involved.
I'm along way from being a boy. LOL
Wish I was.
Carry on your wasting your time.
art
Okay I just tried the ramps in the CW rotation and that really works
good. Better than backwardsoops. My ramps are a cobbled up
mess, my rotor bearing are stuck half the time and my gap is way
on out to where you can't get any good pull. And it still ramps like
crazy.I am very happy about this day. My magnets are round and
all wrong, to short impossible junk and I am still getting the ramps
to do their job. Thanks so much UFO for going back and reading
through the thread and figuring out all of the mysteries. You really
are one of the chief motor men around.
I can see Macks motor tearing itself apart when it got away from him
catching him by surprise.These "Y" ramps are doing the job.
Like I say I just did some more testing and your video is showing
proper cell construction. Once this gets out, magnet motors will take
over the planet. I want an air cushioned magnet motor hoover board.Last edited by BroMikey; 10-09-2015, 07:02 AM.
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Nobody can call you dufo now!!!!!
Ufopolitics,
You did it old friend!!!
I'm so glad to see that baby spin. My dream of seeing a real magnetic motor has come true.
I've been looking for materials to build a vertical machine to use with my 1/2" magnets. I noticed your tines are longer and thinner which makes since to not have too much steel causing back drag. Half the battle is designing a way to adjust the ramps and stators.
Man that's a wonderful thing to see.
I got to get busy,
wantomake
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Originally posted by Cornboy 555 View Post@Cornboy: Hey Old Friend!!...is grrrreat to see you here!!...I know you are a heck of a builder, and would be able to thrust this design all the way into the world. So a very warm welcome to you.
Thanks UFO, I am starting to get settled in here.
This farm is quite isolated, in pristine forest country.
We are totally OFF GRID, with the nearest grid power about 6km away.
The battery bank is 24v 3000ah and is all the power we could possibly use.
I will give this build all I have, no problem.
Warm Regards Cornboy.
Wow! really nice setup Cornboy!
But i Wonder 12 x 2v 3000a in series does would it be more like 24v 250a?...
anyway, im jalous ;o) im happy for you!
ciao!
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Public Domain
Hi @ricards,
Everything in this thread is public domain. You may copy anything you wish. This is why we publish it here. For the general good of the public.
Cheers,
Randy
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That's really close to completion
I have been observing you people since the thread has started.. Can I ask permission to save those images and videos to my computer in case I do not have internet? I plan on Incorporating this type of motor into my work.
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Mikey your funny, I'm just trying to say just using magnets and layers of steel will find balance , gravity needs to be involved.
I'm along way from being a boy. LOL
Wish I was.
Carry on your wasting your time.
art
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Originally posted by shylo View PostAnd it will balance.You need to use gravity . Where gravity overpowers the force of magnetic attraction.
Randy mentions the center of mass, a magnet will always center on the mass of steel it sees
Your fork has a central point of mass your magnet will come to rest at that point
You need to use gravity
Funny the 2 things they don't really know how to explain.
This malware is driving me nuts
art
What are you saying here. It's a fake it that it? It is a lie? And UFO is such
an ignorant fool? Is that what you are saying.You and your buddies
still calling UFO dufo? Go back to your dark room where nothing can
enter except your belief that is won't work. It can't work because you
can't make it work, is that it? If you can't make it work, nobody can?
Is that right boy?
Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIttbSld5o&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]
TESTING RAMPS FULL VIDEO
To All:
This are 1/4 inch magnets...of about 3 lbs pull force...no shunting...
So, I am ready to set all rotor magnets domani...(tomorrow)
See you then.
Regards
Ufopolitics
Sorry about the yoyo taking a dump on our happy night. These guys are
convinced you are some kind of dope. I have tried to be nice but MR.artv
is a fake experimenter.
UFO, you are the man of the hour. You made it here ahead of all of them
and you deserve it. Even a small child can see that your video is a success.
My boy of 11 years has been watching me and when he saw you he knew
right away. You know what the 11 year said? He said that UFO just needs
a couple more, meaning 2 more cells. Even the children know.
You are the man of the hour sir, the doubt about overunity is over.
Mack has had to put a stop to stupidity comments and UFO has the
machine working on video and that is making the trolls bug out.
You guys that disagree, start your own thread and show us your great
wisdom on that thread, not this one. You won't follow UFO's lead because
you are so full of yourselves you can't give credit where credit is due.
UFO has great abilities and is the first one on the worldwide web to show
a working principle for making a magnet motor, curtsy of the one and only
MADMACK.
Nice going UFO. I am refreshed. The trolls want you gone, you are
making them all out to be liars, because that is what they are.
Go ahead, make my day.Last edited by BroMikey; 10-09-2015, 12:21 AM.
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And it will balance.You need to use gravity . Where gravity overpowers the force of magnetic attraction.
Randy mentions the center of mass, a magnet will always center on the mass of steel it sees
Your fork has a central point of mass your magnet will come to rest at that point
You need to use gravity
Funny the 2 things they don't really know how to explain.
This malware is driving me nuts
art
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Video on Testing Both Ramps on a single module...
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIttbSld5o&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]
TESTING RAMPS FULL VIDEO
To All:
This are 1/4 inch magnets...of about 3 lbs pull force...no shunting...
So, I am ready to set all rotor magnets domani...(tomorrow)
See you then.
Regards
Ufopolitics
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Many thanks Mack!
Originally posted by MadMack View PostUfo,
You pretty much nailed it with that last graphic. I'm sure that will clarify things a great deal for others. You can see the simplicity now? Granted, the concept of how the ramps work is out of the ordinary but once you get it, that's it!
Mack
We will never end thanking you for releasing this awesome technology to mankind!
It not only will prove an MPM could be built...with just Non Moving Parts...except rotor (of course)...but beyond that point...it proves that a rotating magnetic field is achievable without moving the cores...or spending any energy at all.
For the book I am putting together it will be the first and simpler machine to start breaking the "rules"...
Yes, it is simple now...after you have shown us the way to make it...is always like that once we make it...
Thanks once more!
Ufopolitics
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@Cornboy: Hey Old Friend!!...is grrrreat to see you here!!...I know you are a heck of a builder, and would be able to thrust this design all the way into the world. So a very warm welcome to you.
Thanks UFO, I am starting to get settled in here.
This farm is quite isolated, in pristine forest country.
We are totally OFF GRID, with the nearest grid power about 6km away.
The battery bank is 24v 3000ah and is all the power we could possibly use.
I will give this build all I have, no problem.
Warm Regards Cornboy.
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Originally posted by mkt3920 View PostThank you UFOpolitics for the graphic. It cleared up the rotation direction for me with that visual. I now think in terms of the rotor magnet corner which is nearest to the stator magnet being dominant, rather than the face of the rotor magnet. At least that now makes sense to me.Don't think no more about the repulsion side ramps...I am just uploading a video now to show it working...Repulsion Ramp is EXACTLY the same as the Attract side Ramp...on video you will see the one I previously did, in order to get the South Pole induced from Stator (back pole)...but...is absolutely not the way to go friend.
Yes, definitively that corner from the rotor magnets is the main check point to be in a perfect 180º ALIGNED passing right at dead center (in my latest graphic I made the 3 point line in green)...then it will serve as well to check your stators ïn line alignment...
See this way the sweeping of counter forces takes place exactly at same timing during rotation. Picture the vectors while you sweep rotor's magnets edge.
I am still trying to understand the ramp on the repulsion side, thinking that you would want the induction to the ramp from the back of the stator magnet, for attraction, and not from the front as shown. With the ramp on the inbound side then you want attraction there (right?) then shielding to get past the 1/2 way point of the stator magnet face, then occurs the repulsion force from same polarity interaction. Or is the attraction from the steel, without stator magnet induction (shielded), all that is needed here?
Also, THANK YOU MadMack!
Kent
Just watch it accelerating and making the "jump"...and I do not have the time to run it in slow motion...or else to watch the real accel...but eventually I will do it.
Regards
UfopoliticsLast edited by Ufopolitics; 10-08-2015, 09:42 PM.
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