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  • Rakarskiy says
    "Does it matter if it is rotated mechanically or by switching armature windings in the manner of a DC motor armature."

    Yes it matters. Switching currents to induce a moving magnetic field onto a series of coils housed in a device can impart mechanical force onto the structure. However, if said structure allows no motion, there can be no mechanical power. Motion is a necessary component of mechanical power. Therefore that device cannot fit the definition of an electric generator, a device which converts mechanical power into electric power. The device using switched currents to produce the rotating magnetic field without mechanical motion would be considered a transformer with electric power input and electric power output.
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    • In the case of an engine, power is also a similarly "evaluative" characteristic. In this case, we can say that the engine's work is essentially torque. After all, the engine's job is to turn the crankshaft. So, torque and power are interrelated. The generator has electromagnetic torque, but this is all about the mechanical power generated by the rotor rotation to overcome the electromagnetic attraction of the rotor and stator. If you rotate the magnetic poles by switching electromagnets in a constant continuous current mode, you get the same thing without the mechanical power.

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      • Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
        In the case of an engine, power is also a similarly "evaluative" characteristic. In this case, we can say that the engine's work is essentially torque. After all, the engine's job is to turn the crankshaft. So, torque and power are interrelated. The generator has electromagnetic torque, but this is all about the mechanical power generated by the rotor rotation to overcome the electromagnetic attraction of the rotor and stator. If you rotate the magnetic poles by switching electromagnets in a constant continuous current mode, you get the same thing without the mechanical power.
        "If you rotate the magnetic poles by switching electromagnets in a constant continuous current mode, you get the same thing without the mechanical power."

        That's nonsense. You don't get electromechanical energy conversion and therefore no more electric output than the electric input.
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        • How is mechanical power [P=Fv] converted into electrical power [W=IU]?
          Turbine generators are devices with closed magnetic circuits. There is no cutting of the phase winding wire by power lines. However, the transformer emf formula E=4.44NФf is used to calculate the emf.
          This statement of yours is part of the misleading of all mankind.

          How about Zimbabwe, I remember it back in 2016.

          https://youtu.be/B5EygmKqCJk?si=Q1LEqSqv3q6461re
          Last edited by Rakarskiy; 02-17-2025, 06:11 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
            How is mechanical power [P=Fv] converted into electrical power [W=IU]?
            Turbine generators are devices with closed magnetic circuits. There is no cutting of the phase winding wire by power lines. However, the transformer emf formula E=4.44NФf is used to calculate the emf.
            This statement of yours is part of the misleading of all mankind.

            How about Zimbabwe, I remember it back in 2016.

            https://youtu.be/B5EygmKqCJk?si=Q1LEqSqv3q6461re
            Rakarskiy,
            The mechanical power input to the alternator's shaft must overcome friction and aerodynamic loss of the rotor and also overcome the core loss (hysteresis & eddy current) say 4% of rated output. Then once conversion to electrical power occurs, armature resistive loss and excitation are accounted, amounting to say 3% and 3% respectfully. Conversion efficiency is 90%, mechanical input power to useful electric output power. 96% of the mechanical input power was converted to electrical power at the air gap. These are typical values in accordance with industry standards.

            The fact that you don't recognize how induction occurs (wires in grooves and enclosed magnetic circuits and flux cutting and such) is of no real consequence. It is your failure of comprehension and understanding, not a flaw in society's science and engineering.
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            Last edited by bistander; 02-17-2025, 07:12 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
              How about Zimbabwe, I remember it back in 2016.

              https://youtu.be/B5EygmKqCJk?si=Q1LEqSqv3q6461re
              9 years ago. Where is he now? Having tea with Dr. Holcomb?
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              https://youtu.be/jRJvUGwbN3c?si=pjEmyhZTS4HLUsD3

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              • Originally posted by bistander View Post

                Rakarskiy,
                The mechanical power input to the alternator's shaft must overcome friction and aerodynamic loss of the rotor and also overcome the core loss (hysteresis & eddy current) say 4% of rated output. Then once conversion to electrical power occurs, armature resistive loss and excitation are accounted, amounting to say 3% and 3% respectfully. Conversion efficiency is 90%, mechanical input power to useful electric output power. 96% of the mechanical input power was converted to electrical power at the air gap. These are typical values in accordance with industry standards.

                The fact that you don't recognize how induction occurs (wires in grooves and enclosed magnetic circuits and flux cutting and such) is of no real consequence. It is your failure of comprehension and understanding, not a flaw in society's science and engineering.
                bi

                bistander,

                the main task performed by mechanical power in a mechanical generator is the rotation of the core of the magnetic rotor with an excited constant magnetic field (magnetic poles). This magnetic flux of the rotor poles, closing through the stator core with the windings, forms a constant magnetic closed flux ANAPOLE, which is characterized by the Anapol moment. (American version - Toroidal moment). The physical rotation of these closed magnetic fluxes - toroidal moments, with overcoming the magnetic attraction between the rotor and stator cores, is the mechanical cost, not the conversion energy. All that is needed is to organize the rotation of toroidal moments in the structure of a synchronous generator, by means of an algorithm for switching excitation electromagnets. Which was actually patented and implemented by Dr. Robert Holcomb. A patent for this type of device and switching was issued by the US Patent Office 2022-05-17 US11336134B2 (2038-07-01 adjusted to the term dii).
                I like that he put all engineers and physicists in the lurch with his false standards, which you drool over at me. Many people cherish their dissertations or PhDs, which this working principle simply nullifies. And the education system can also revoke a teaching license if this issue is even raised.

                I have researched this issue and proposed the most optimal design of an alternator without physical rotation of the magnetic rotor. The only question is desire and means. But to begin with, just find a suitable anchor from a constant current motor and a stator with a three-phase winding, make a device for rotating brushes around fixed collector lamellas with anchor fittings inserted into the stator with windings and see what happens there - anyone with brains and hands can do it.

                As for Maxwell from Zimbabwe, I just watch how this self-taught guy hasn't released at least one small device from his box every month for 8 years (he already had his own company back then). Here's a YouTube video from 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDKyS6OUbBw&t=17s

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                • Africa's Energy Secret: The Unlimited Range Car Big Oil Doesn't Want You To See

                  just see how it gains market share. In the interview, he says he's already sold some of his products. What's surprising is that no one is rushing to brag that they have his product.

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                  • Electric generator without rotation braking, generator system on the principle of a curtain on one side of the coil on the other side of the static magnet. In Ukraine there is a craftsman who repeated a similar machine that was built in Germany. The material contains the entire history of such devices. In the appendix to the publication is a video demonstration of the Ukrainian craftsman.

                    Electric generator without braking rotation. | Patreon

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                    • Same old crazy stories with no proof.
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                      • Everything works in it, everything is like in the video, but unfortunately some elements overheat for a short time. The reason is a simple absolute lack of engineering skills. I would ask him a few questions and give recommendations (my friend is in touch with him, he will contact me if he wants).
                        In this type of generator, the output current is pulsed. After that, they will disconnect the battery to please various "paid specialists", this is not necessary, it's the same as driving without a battery in a car, using it only for starting. But the implemented system has a number of operational features. When rectifying alternating current from the network to direct current, it is necessary to install a smoothing capacitor. Secondly, it is necessary to calculate the generator windings for the appropriate EMF, taking into account its conversion into current while maintaining the operating voltage not lower than the battery voltage. About braking? In this generator, with appropriate settings, there is a certain amount of braking, so it is necessary to find the optimal balance of generation, engine and energy selection in the consumer unit. Let the cost curve and useful power decrease, but in the end you will get a stable generation system.

                        Low Lenz Flux Generator 210 Volt Free Energy - this is where the Ukrainian garage master took the information.



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                        ​CLEMENTE FIGUERA GENERATOR
                        651055495.jpg​​​​​​​

                        If we think logically, then based on the available patents of the Spanish engineer Clemente Figuera (1902-1908), only one system is visible. In 1902, the patent contained only a magnetic system of cores and excitation coils. And in 1908, an electrical excitation system was published. Combining all this information into one, we can get a logical version of the Figuera generator for a garage mechanic. It is necessary to avoid mutual induction and organize a smooth change in current in the excitation windings.


                        https://www.patreon.com/posts/99437426
                        https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/12/1902.html
                        Last edited by Rakarskiy; Yesterday, 07:46 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
                          Everything works in it, everything is like in the video, but unfortunately some elements overheat for a short time. The reason is a simple absolute lack of engineering skills. I would ask him a few questions and give recommendations (my friend is in touch with him, he will contact me if he wants).
                          In this type of generator, the output current is pulsed. After that, they will disconnect the battery to please various "paid specialists", this is not necessary, it's the same as driving without a battery in a car, using it only for starting. But the implemented system has a number of operational features. When rectifying alternating current from the network to direct current, it is necessary to install a smoothing capacitor. Secondly, it is necessary to calculate the generator windings for the appropriate EMF, taking into account its conversion into current while maintaining the operating voltage not lower than the battery voltage. About braking? In this generator, with appropriate settings, there is a certain amount of braking, so it is necessary to find the optimal balance of generation, engine and energy selection in the consumer unit. Let the cost curve and useful power decrease, but in the end you will get a stable generation system.

                          Low Lenz Flux Generator 210 Volt Free Energy - this is where the Ukrainian garage master took the information.



                          ***************************************
                          ​CLEMENTE FIGUERA GENERATOR
                          651055495.jpg​​​​​​​

                          If we think logically, then based on the available patents of the Spanish engineer Clemente Figuera (1902-1908), only one system is visible. In 1902, the patent contained only a magnetic system of cores and excitation coils. And in 1908, an electrical excitation system was published. Combining all this information into one, we can get a logical version of the Figuera generator for a garage mechanic. It is necessary to avoid mutual induction and organize a smooth change in current in the excitation windings.


                          https://www.patreon.com/posts/99437426
                          https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/12/1902.html
                          Dear Rakarskiy,

                          "Low Lenz Flux Generator 210 Volt Free Energy - this is where the Ukrainian garage master took the information."

                          This contraption very much reassembles that of Turion. Both lack a simple proof; simultaneous measurement of real output power and input power. Your guy doesn't even attempt to use ammeters. Just hoaxes. Like Holcomb, Figuera and all the other con artists like your friend from Africa.
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                          • I didn't get you, the guy from Ukraine has a whole panel of output voltage, current, power. This is what the installation gave to the payload during self-propelled operation. How much was needed for self-propelled operation is no longer important, since without self-propelled generation there would simply be no payload operation.

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                            • Originally posted by Rakarskiy View Post
                              I didn't get you, the guy from Ukraine has a whole panel of output voltage, current, power. This is what the installation gave to the payload during self-propelled operation. How much was needed for self-propelled operation is no longer important, since without self-propelled generation there would simply be no payload operation.
                              What? In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN60uWjoY64 I see no self propel. At time stamp 0:34 is shown his apparatus being plugged in (to the AC mains?) just below the motor. A volt panel meter is the only meter shown. And then 5 lamps as a load. No ammeters. What are you talking about? It is fake OU/FE.
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                              Last edited by bistander; Yesterday, 12:24 PM.

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                              • Watch the video in the attachment to the publication Electric generator without braking rotation. | Patreon

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