Motor Generators

[BroMikey]

Did you get any smoke damage? Sounds like you just missed devastation. Yes we all hope the best for your generator tests

[Turion]

Home. You can see the burn from the fire from our deck. It didn't make it to the service road that goes along the back of our property, but on the other side of that road it is all burned away. Cutting it close. Will be working on the generator tomorrow. Hope to have it all back together and then can test on Monday.

[BroMikey]

We live on this mile long cul-de-sac. We all know each other and what vehicles each other drive. We have cookouts together at the end of our street. We watch out for each other and help each other. Which is why we had a place to stay for a week that belongs to our neighbor at no charge if we wanted it. But we wouldn’t take advantage of our neighbor that way.

That is a wonderful testament to good manners. I have witnessed family members in Detroit who were wealthy visiting their poor relatives, staying over 30 days and eating all of the small children's food stamp money and never offer to buy anything. I think that is terrible. Greed is a stinking beast

[BroMikey]

Good to hear, let us know when you are all nestled in and back to the grind. Sure beats charred timber

[Turion]

We live on this mile long cul-de-sac. We all know each other and what vehicles each other drive. We have cookouts together at the end of our street. We watch out for each other and help each other. Which is why we had a place to stay for a week that belongs to our neighbor at no charge if we wanted it. But we wouldn’t take advantage of our neighbor that way. Those with generators run extension cords to those without. Several different homes have video cameras capturing who comes up the street, what time, and where they went. It’s a good neighborhood.

We just got an email from the county. We can return home. So packing up and heading out.

[BroMikey]

Well i`m sure you must be glad that you invested in such systems during this crisis. I know I was thankful in 2007 when I built a special generator for back up. My system pales in comparison to yours, I know that people in remote living areas often have emergency plans. You should be glad.watching the robbers is so cool.

[Turion]

We bought the current house in 2018 and moved in. So we've been there 4 years. Made lots of changes since. The old house was only one street over.

[BroMikey]

Very impressive. I had no idea that you had such complex back up systems in the short time you have lived at your new home. I am glad you did not get burned out

[Turion]

I have solar plus a few things I have added. I also have a whole house propane generator system. PG&E power has been off at my place for over five days, but I have had power on there from my systems the whole time to keep my security system up and running, exterior lights and plugs available to first responders, and power my fridge and freezer. I could also remotely open and close locks to let in the first responders to get water and use the guest bathroom, or even the kitchen if they needed it. (they didn't)

PG&E power came back on there at 6:01 PM tonight and it looks like we might get to go back home sometime tomorrow or Sunday. Haven't got the all clear yet.

[BroMikey]

What does it look like on your laptop now since to power came back on, right? Unless you have solar camera's

[wantomake]

You’re not being a butt head. The video you showed is the general idea, but it doesn’t have the capacitor and it is taking from one battery bank (two batteries) and charging 12 batteries. The 12 batteries being charged is actually easier to charge than a single battery because with one battery you are trying to force all the charge into a single battery in a short amount of time because of the on/off switching of the Matt motor. A LOT is simply wasted. With the large battery bank, the “wasted” energy has lots of places to go. Or a cap gives it a place.

You can take power from just ONE battery (or several batteries in parallel is better) boost it with the boost module up to 26 volts to give you your potential difference and then run the motor between the high voltage (boost module) and low voltage (positive of the battery or batteries in parallel) if the capacitor is in parallel with all the batteries in parallel it assures a place for the spike to go from the collapsing coils in the motor.

I don’t have anything to draw this up, but it goes like this:
1. Put all available batteries in parallel.
2. Add a capacitor in parallel. 15-24 volt cap
3. Connect the positive in and negative in on the boost module to the + and - of all the batteries in parallel and set the output to 26 volts.
4. Connect the motor between the + out on the boost module and the + on the batteries in parallel.


in the video I had two batteries in series to give me 24 volts. The + out of the two batteries in series went to the + in on the boost module. The - in on the boost module went to the + on all the batteries that were connected in parallel. The - on all the batteries in parallel went back to the - of the two batteries in series. So basically what you have is the 3 battery system running a boost module instead of a motor with a bunch of batteries in parallel with battery 3.
Set the boost module to 26 volts. Then the + out on the boost went to one side of the motor and the OTHER side of the motor also went to the +’on all the batteries in parallel.

I put OTHER in caps for a reason. You can connect two wires to the OTHER side of the motor and run one to each of the positives of your two batteries that are in series.

it is all about ALWAYS running loads between potentials so SOME of the energy can be recovered.

I’m going to email you if I can find your email address. I know I have it somewhere! Have some things I can tell you that I won’t post on the forum.

Sent you an email if you haven't changed it.

[Turion]

You’re not being a butt head. The video you showed is the general idea, but it doesn’t have the capacitor and it is taking from one battery bank (two batteries) and charging 12 batteries. The 12 batteries being charged is actually easier to charge than a single battery because with one battery you are trying to force all the charge into a single battery in a short amount of time because of the on/off switching of the Matt motor. A LOT is simply wasted. With the large battery bank, the “wasted” energy has lots of places to go. Or a cap gives it a place.

You can take power from just ONE battery (or several batteries in parallel is better) boost it with the boost module up to 26 volts to give you your potential difference and then run the motor between the high voltage (boost module) and low voltage (positive of the battery or batteries in parallel) if the capacitor is in parallel with all the batteries in parallel it assures a place for the spike to go from the collapsing coils in the motor.

I don’t have anything to draw this up, but it goes like this:
1. Put all available batteries in parallel.
2. Add a capacitor in parallel. 15-24 volt cap
3. Connect the positive in and negative in on the boost module to the + and - of all the batteries in parallel and set the output to 26 volts.
4. Connect the motor between the + out on the boost module and the + on the batteries in parallel.


in the video I had two batteries in series to give me 24 volts. The + out of the two batteries in series went to the + in on the boost module. The - in on the boost module went to the + on all the batteries that were connected in parallel. The - on all the batteries in parallel went back to the - of the two batteries in series. So basically what you have is the 3 battery system running a boost module instead of a motor with a bunch of batteries in parallel with battery 3.
Set the boost module to 26 volts. Then the + out on the boost went to one side of the motor and the OTHER side of the motor also went to the +’on all the batteries in parallel.

I put OTHER in caps for a reason. You can connect two wires to the OTHER side of the motor and run one to each of the positives of your two batteries that are in series.

it is all about ALWAYS running loads between potentials so SOME of the energy can be recovered.

I’m going to email you if I can find your email address. I know I have it somewhere! Have some things I can tell you that I won’t post on the forum.

[wantomake]

The simplest version for learning that you could possibly build would be to use a single 12 volt battery, a boost module to up the voltage to 26 volts, and then run the Matt motor between the + output of the boost module and the + of the battery through a diode. If you have extra batteries, (you have THREE more) you can put them all in parallel. This will lower the impedance to charge significantly.

The motor has coils (inductors) that collapse, and the spike follows the path of least resistance to the “charge” batteries. When I did it I had a cap across the batteries with a diode going from the cap positive to the battery positive. The Matt motor connected between boost module and cap.

If you watched Peter’s videos about the Benetiz setup you replicated, he indicates that the “missing piece” he added was the spark gap. The motor commutator in the Matt motor serves the exact same purpose. The Benitez device had to be run at the correct frequency to achieve the proper charging effect on the battery. In that case you had to pulse it at the correct frequency. With this setup the frequency is controlled by the RPM of the motor commutator, and you can control that by adjusting the voltage coming out of the boost module. Batteries charge best at a SPECIFIC FREQUENCY. Figuring out that frequency is the difference between success and failure.

Have fun!
Spark gap or commutator to interrupt current flow
collapsing inductor and capturing the spike
These gains vs resistance and impedance losses.

For your consideration....The normal laws (mathematical formulas) only apply to electricity when you implement the regauging of the Heaviside component. Or as Tom Beardon would say, when you kill the dipole. Or as I would say, when you use a GROUND as the low side of the potential in your circuit

If I understand your post, the single 12 volt battery will charge the in series batteries at 24 volts. With the boost module set at 26 volts. I thought the Carlos Benitez setup was intended to get the 24 volt series batteries to charge the parallel 12 volt batteries. But with a boost or step down module one could accomplish charge either way.
But I will order a module and give this a try.

[BroMikey]

Here is a few years later the holder are now shield and the magnets are recessed.
This was the first step with horseshoe magnets. This is still an excellent test bed and Thane still uses it. You will never see him show those old rotors

[BroMikey]

Here is a strange set of magnets with holes in them also using holders