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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    And I don’t care what YOU think. So we are even.
    Not even. I have made no extraordinary claim as you have. I simply make true statements about facts and events. People are welcome to believe me, or investigate what I say, which I encourage (look it up), discuss it in civil terms with me or simply disbelieve or ignore it. Their choice. There is a huge difference between what I have posted on this forum and you claiming to have a world changing 1.5kW free energy generator. It has been said often by those most admired; extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Since you have no proof and no evidence, you should have never made that extraordinary claim.
    bi
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    Think you'll ever get that bulb to light up?

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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    It is about the extraordinary claim of yours. Just prove it.

    bi.
    I know Dave is sharing the best he can about his many builds. Because you are always unsatisfied with the data you want to see you feel it is okay to publicly butcher a person. Shame on you.

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  • Turion
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    And I don’t care what YOU think. So we are even.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    And when you show some supposed device partially wound and make claims HERE about the machine’s performance without posting videos, test results or data, it would appear you fall under the exact same classification, n’est-ce pas SENOR EUNUCO?

    Therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark.
    Oh, that partially wound device. I thought you referred to the 7th grade experiment. I was simply showing some benchwork. I don't care what you think. Again, this is not about me. It is about the extraordinary claim of yours. Just prove it.
    bi.

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  • Turion
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    And when you show some supposed device partially wound and make claims HERE about the machine’s performance without posting videos, test results or data, it would appear you fall under the exact same classification, n’est-ce pas SENOR EUNUCO?

    Therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark. FBBAAA31-DC82-44C6-9576-C9A2DDD8FB6F.jpeg

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  • bistander
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    Turion,
    If you want to revisit the "7th grade experiment", as you call it, I will, if you behave in a civil manner and do it on the bistander thread.
    bi

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    And when you show some supposed device partially wound and make claims HERE about the machine’s performance without posting videos, test results or data, it would appear you fall under the exact same classification, n’est-ce pas SENOR EUNUCO?

    Therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark.
    There again, you have no clue about that "device" because you were m.i.a. at the time. It was not "partially wound" as you say. It had no windings. No coils. Only cores and magnets. That is what I was testing. Remember?

    And once more. It is not me. It is your extraordinary claim. I am irrelevant to that. I am just a voice in the crowd saying "prove it" when you announced to the world that extraordinary claim of your free energy generator. Prove it.
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  • Turion
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    And when you show some supposed device partially wound and make claims HERE about the machine’s performance without posting videos, test results or data, it would appear you fall under the exact same classification, n’est-ce pas SENOR EUNUCO?

    Therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    I’m having LOADS of fun! LOL. So you admit you NEVER proved claims about YOUR machine HERE as required by “bistander law”, therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark. I couldn’t be happier.


    Edit: After all, you DID make the claims about its performance here with absolutely NO proof. Are we expected to take YOUR word? LOL

    Turion,

    I built a fixture, conducted tests which supported my contentions about the forces involved and posted that inviting discussion. You were in hiding or unwilling to respond. After about three months, I dismantled the experiment and put it to rest. I am satisfied with the results. That is what I claim. Call me a liar about it if you wish. You and your fanboy misconstrue my statements or even alter quotes of mine to have your fun. I don't care.

    What I have or have not done, who I am, or what you think about me are irrelevant. You made an extraordinary claim to me publicly. I want proof. Your unwillingness to provide that proof justifies calling it a lie.
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  • Turion
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    I’m having LOADS of fun! LOL. So you admit you NEVER proved claims about YOUR machine HERE as required by “bistander law”, therefore, according to YOUR own definition, you are a liar, fraud and con man, as well as scum of the earth and a pathetic loser for hiding in the dark. I couldn’t be happier.


    Edit: After all, you DID make the claims about its performance here with absolutely NO proof. Are we expected to take YOUR word? LOL

    Last edited by Turion; 02-27-2022, 07:37 PM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post
    I have proved it. Countless times on the bench. I have had it to the independent lab twice to verify total input and they verified the output of three coil pairs at that time, but could NOT verify the output of all six pair because they did not have enough “certified” meters to test all six pair and I had it set up to run six different loads. I have had many individuals into the shop to put their OWN meters on the machine and see it working.

    I never saw the machine you “claim” to have completed run, nor have I seen test data from that machine. Therefore, by YOUR logic, it is a LIE and you are a LIAR.

    Yes, I have called you much worse than a liar and will continue to do so. Hide in the dark and get what you deserve. I WAS reserving my response to you for only YOUR thread, but it can be applied here in the future also.

    IN MY BOOK, SOMEONE WHO HIDES IN THE DARK LIKE YOU DO IS A PATHETIC LOSER. AND DON ’T GIVE ME THAT B.S. ABOUT WHO YOU ARE NOT BEING IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR, A FRAUD AND A CON MAN WITHOUT REVEALING WHO YOU ARE, YOU ARE THE LOWEST SCUM ON THE PLANET.

    oh wait. You are also a FRAUD and a CON MAN.
    Simply prove your claim of 1800-2000 watts of real power output using less than 300 watts input. Bits and pieces of past hearsay are not proof. What I have or have not done is irrelevant. You can not prove your claim because it is a physical impossibility. Nobody has ever done such a thing. 1.5kW of free energy from a table top device would change the world. You expect me to believe you have it. Just keep lying about it. You can't even light up that bulb. And have no clue why. I offer to help but you'd rather just argue, lie about the past, and call me names. Having fun yet?
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  • BroMikey
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    Prove for all. Prove for truth. I know truth. So do you. I do not.
    bi
    You are slipping bye



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  • Turion
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    I have proved it. Countless times on the bench. I have had it to the independent lab twice to verify total input and they verified the output of three coil pairs at that time, but could NOT verify the output of all six pair because they did not have enough “certified” meters to test all six pair and I had it set up to run six different loads. I have had many individuals into the shop to put their OWN meters on the machine and see it working.

    I never saw the machine you “claim” to have completed run, nor have I seen test data from that machine. Therefore, by YOUR logic, it is a LIE and you are a LIAR.

    Yes, I have called you much worse than a liar and will continue to do so. Hide in the dark and get what you deserve. I WAS reserving my response to you for only YOUR thread, but it can be applied here in the future also.

    IN MY BOOK, SOMEONE WHO HIDES IN THE DARK LIKE YOU DO IS A PATHETIC LOSER. AND DON ’T GIVE ME THAT B.S. ABOUT WHO YOU ARE NOT BEING IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU CALL SOMEONE A LIAR, A FRAUD AND A CON MAN WITHOUT REVEALING WHO YOU ARE, YOU ARE THE LOWEST SCUM ON THE PLANET.

    oh wait. You are also a FRAUD and a CON MAN.
    Last edited by Turion; 02-27-2022, 06:11 PM.

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  • bistander
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    Originally posted by Turion View Post

    No. I have not lied. And you have not proven that I have.



    You're beginning to sound a bit like a cave man or someone who has gone off their meds. Do you need us to call someone?



    Right, like when you said you did the 7th grade science experiment, and then we find out you did some OTHER experiment you thought was better? That was the truth? The truth for YOU is whatever supports your conclusions. Unfortunately for YOU, the truth is what we see on the bench.

    Everybody who has done the 7th grade science experiment now knows I spoke the truth. And that YOU ignore the facts when they don't support your conclusions. You can't ignore the results of that experiment for much longer. Too many people are replicating it.
    Turion,
    that is a load of crap. Your "7th grade experiment" was vaguely defined by you and I built a fixture to demonstrate the principles which I was talking about. While I had that fixture running, I did approach the rotor with a handheld magnet, which I guess is your "7th grade experiment". So what is it that I have lied about? I did not notice the rotor speed up. But I never said your rotor didn't. That was not the point. You might think it proves something. I don't. No lies there.

    But call me a liar, you call me much worse. That doesn't change the one reason I'm here. Prove your claim of 1800-2000 watts of real power output using less than 300 watts input. You made that claim to me and the world. Prove it.
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  • Turion
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    Originally posted by bistander View Post

    You lie to the world.
    No. I have not lied. And you have not proven that I have.

    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    Prove for all. Prove for truth. I know truth.
    You're beginning to sound a bit like a cave man or someone who has gone off their meds. Do you need us to call someone?

    Originally posted by bistander View Post
    But you lie. I do not.
    Right, like when you said you did the 7th grade science experiment, and then we find out you did some OTHER experiment you thought was better? That was the truth? The truth for YOU is whatever supports your conclusions. Unfortunately for YOU, the truth is what we see on the bench.

    Everybody who has done the 7th grade science experiment now knows I spoke the truth. And that YOU ignore the facts when they don't support your conclusions. You can't ignore the results of that experiment for much longer. Too many people are replicating it.

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