Motor Generators

[Turion]

Only MY machine has 10 cores, not 24, so it would cost me $20 per core and is crap. Still not the $5.00 YOU SAID IT WAS no matter how you slice it, is it? Those rods are NOT the same diameter as the 1/16" rods I used for cores in my iron core coils, now are they. So wrong again there bucko. So the amount of lost volume of core material is significantly more.

My the way, MY big machine is all put together and ready to test coils. I should be picking up the motor mount on Tuesday and then will be able to run it. Is YOUR machine going to be ready by Tuesday? Didn't think so.

[BroMikey]

Only MY machine has 10 cores, not 24,

Is YOUR machine going to be ready by Tuesday? Didn't think so.

Naw yer still da man, leader of the pack. I still got to pick up my milling machine when the weather breaks.
BTW you can order 1/16" I am putting it out there because someone might want to see if it works using nickel iron vs iron.

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[Turion]

Still not the permalloy and still not $5.00 per core. Not the same as the cores I found. So you lied. That’s like saying you found a replacement for my $25.00 steak for only $5.00, only it’s bologna, and you don’t know where you found it.

[BroMikey]

Still not the permalloy and still not $5.00 per core. Not the same as the cores I found. So you lied. That’s like saying you found a replacement for my $25.00 steak for only $5.00, only it’s bologna, and you don’t know where you found it.

You might be right by using rods all these years. Too bad you didn't have the sense to get nickel in your iron, so now you think this stuff will be the best ever when you have never tested either. better hold your tongue, you might be getting the short end again. Permalloy is nothing more than iron mixed with nickel and a few other additives to get them to blend. Whenever you see the wire it is for heaters like in your toaster, oven, dryer..... and refers to the wire as having all the same magnetic qualities as all Permalloy. Same for the roll of mig welder wire .035 which is 1/32" don't use flux core mig wire use the solid. It is all the same, expensive because of the nickel content. You can get .046 and .062 or .025

Go dig up enough dead toasters and you can have the wire for free, just stop using iron every time hard head. Price is no object with you so instead of listening to me you had to get the most expensive. $5 worth of wire and you could be testing the same way you have always done it but no you have to prove me wrong no matter how much I try to help you. I'm use to it. And stop saying yer out of here, it sounds so you.

This is the standard definition, re read carefully.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/permalloy

[BroMikey]

Standard definition referring to the basic nature of a nickel iron
Write this down so it doesn't slip your mind again on yer hand.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/permalloy

Permalloy
a brand name for any of a class of alloys of high magnetic permeability, containing from 30 to 90 percent nickel.

alloy of nickel and iron; easily magnetized and demagnetized

(Metallurgy) any of various alloys containing iron and nickel (45–80 per cent) and sometimes smaller amounts of chromium and molybdenum

How many times am I going to have to repeat the same ole?

See where it says "high magnetic permeability"

Now yer cookin with gas. This means you can magnetize and demag rapidly. Got it? Or am I gonna have ta........?

[bistander]

... Permalloy is nothing more than iron mixed with nickel and a few other additives to get them to blend. Whenever you see the wire it is for heaters like in your toaster, oven, dryer..... and refers to the wire as having all the same magnetic qualities as all Permalloy. Same for the roll of mig welder wire .035 which is 1/32" don't use flux core mig wire use the solid. It is all the same, expensive because of the nickel content. You can get .046 and .062 or .025

Go dig up enough dead toasters and you can have the wire for free, just stop using iron every time hard head. Price is no object with you so instead of listening to me you had to ...

Careful who you listen to. Nickel based wire used for heating elements is nichrome. Look it up. Wikipedia is easy to find and pretty accurate. Notice the lack of magnetic property information. Wonder why?
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[BroMikey]

Careful who you listen to. Nickel based wire used for heating elements is nichrome. Look it up. Wikipedia is easy to find and pretty accurate. Notice the lack of magnetic property information. Wonder why?
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Yes this is true, better to use the welding wire. Heater wire would be bad.%80 nickel (wallet) I had to goat Dave, he donno. I could tell him to use bailin wire and that's his favorite, he would try it.I could tell him the hz was 4000 on my rig and he believes me. The heater wire is to expensive anyway but the properties are still high mag perm, go read up. Look for the underline portion of the data. Now all together say the word "Permalloy" you need a marker too? Who have I been surrounded by? Very slow.

You and dave have teamed up now, interesting.

DATA

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/permalloy

Permalloy
a brand name for any of a class of alloys of high magnetic permeability, containing from 30 to 90 percent nickel.

alloy of nickel and iron; easily magnetized and demagnetized

(Metallurgy) any of various alloys containing iron and nickel (45–80 per cent) and sometimes smaller amounts of chromium and molybdenum

[Turion]

bro,
Thought you might be interested in an Electrical Engineer's explanation of what is going on with the coils. This was posted a while back in response to something bystander posted, but he would rather forget it exists.

"It is actually a fact in electrical engineering that any system that uses AC has impedance and the phases of the currents and voltages play a major role. Tesla's coils (Not THANE's coils or MY coils. Tesla had the idea before we were BORN and his patent is in the public domain.) allow you to have much larger distributed capacitance than winding a normal coil. The advantage of that is that the capacitive reactance and inductive reactance of the coils cancel each other out at a specific frequency without needing to add discrete capacitors. (I told you capacitors would work, because I TRIED THEM. Thane isn't the only one who experiments you know.) When that situation occurs the magnetic fields of the system cancel each other out (meaning the electromagnet that is the coil does NOT repel the approaching magnet, in case this is too deep for some of you) and the only losses in a system are ohmic losses. This is what Tesla means by 'no self induction' and this is electrical engineering 101, it is resonance, and the idea that this cannot happen in a motor or generator is not something impossible at all. Engineering the phase of the currents and voltages in a system is done all the time but it is just that the mainstream EE community doesn't investigate it because Lenz's Law is taken.... Well... as a law when in reality it is simply an effect that shows up and doesn't mean it cannot be overcome. (Silly me, I called it a reaction, not an effect.)


What I mean by 'lenz engineered out ' is the fact that it takes a finite time for lenz to show up. (Remember, I said you could "outrun" Lenz????!!!!) If you have an oscilloscope with high enough bandwidth (100MHz or more) you can see it. Because it takes a finite time to take effect you can use that to your advantage and get a lenz assist. Your not getting rid of the negative sign in the equation you are simply delaying it. (CONTROLLING WHEN IT HAPPENS) It is absolutely about the phase of the currents as you said but im not sure you understand what significance that actually has in this system. Dave has said this repeatedly for years. He has basically given away all the details and specs for it and he didnt have to.


The Tesla patent doesn't necessarily contribute anything 'magical'.

I disagree that the reactance becomes infinite in a resonance condition for any coil with inductance and capacitance. The reactance is still zero in the parallel resonance condition its just that the impedance goes to maximum because the currents are bouncing back and forth between the capacitive and inductive portions of the circuit. Because the currents bounce back and forth between L and C that portion of the circuit looks like an open circuit to the source and only the resistive part of the impedance exists. That is - that the resistive part of the impedance goes to maximum but the reactance still goes to zero.

I don't have any experience building these coils into motors I have never tried it so I wont comment anymore on that. I do however have a lot of experience with Tesla's coils and building resonant transformers (That do exactly the same kind of thing) and that is why i wanted to correct your statement. In fact, if you build a coil that utilises a parallel resonance condition and make the coil in such a way that the magnetic fields can cancel one another as the currents oscillate between L and C you will produce a longitudinal wave with the addition that you must suppress any radiation as EM waves (no sparks). Bifilar coils work well and mobius coils inherently do this. it can also be done with normal solenoids and pancake coils.

[BroMikey]

Very good and I might add that positive and the negative work done thru the magnetic field is delayed for the right time as you point out. In engineering today the negative work is completely ignored. Think of that. This super powerful negative kick back they call EMF or CEMF magically comes from nowhere and is fighting the process. This is free energy in the negative. We are using this free energy that comes from the magnetic field that does all the work in the proper time domain. delayed as you say.

It was a good read and only those who experiment can grasp this. I think I am going to rename this negative work a south pole and the positive sign a north pole or something like that to get away from the stigma of stumbling block science as taught today. Here are the answers and you will pass as John B always pointed out. What an insult to the thinking mind.

[sinergicus]

Hey guys ... in 2020 I found about a very prolific spanish inventor that teaching people about of some free energy systems he invented...I decided to give a try to one of his system described here : https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...Bfdjk0SDNFUGdn .... the system is a very low lenz effect generator , using an high efficient winding pattern and a rotor covered with a metal sheet so as to have a uniform distribution of magnetic field coming from magnets , and reducing dramatically the coging effect that appears in common generators... later on page I posted you can see a generator running itself after he disconect it from power source.... So if you have an motor stator ( in this case with 36 slots ) and you rewind it how is indicated , with the special rotor you can do it yourself on 3d printer , if you do it right , you can have a very low lenz generator, running posibly in overunity range...I started to construct this system using an old alternator from a car.... the problem is, I have problem in understanding his conections between coils... maybe my understanding is wrong or maybe his explanation is not clear ... I thought to tell you about this system, maybe some of you are interested , and togheter to try to solve the problem...I tried to contact the inventor but he don,t answer to my messages... I uploaded on my you tube chanel some of his videos to benefit from you tube translator ... from spanish to english https://www.youtube.com/user/sinergicus/videos

[alexelectric]

Thank you sinergicus
This Mr. Antonio Romero has spent time sharing his projects and explaining them, he has material that it would be good to study,

[adys15]

Alexelectric ...its that alex manzanero?

[alexelectric]

Greetings, I am not Mr. Alex Manzanero who also has good research and very interesting contributions.

Mr. Alex Manzanero has commented that he does not participate in the forums

[adys15]

thanks for reply.I tested his coil and it works beatiful....you can hear the rpm increase when you add the other core..its amazing

[alexelectric]

Alright, do you have any video you can share