Motor Generators

[BroMikey]

There's no mention of any load, all there seems to be is an assessment of kinetic energy.
Bro, I must have missed where he mentions input into a load so could you please point it out to me.

Oh yes you were quite right, I was mistaken. This video specifically deals with the delay of these coils with no self induction at speed being used to add mechanical rotational power to the motor while decreasing the input by 46%.

It is a trade off, shorted coils can do this as shown in the video. Shorted coils do not have current flowing in them because of an external source, power is being generated due to passing magnets and the fields are in a delayed time domain such that their fields assist rotation.

If we lessen the delay, open the circuit to each coil with actual produce power but the drive input will not drop as much. The optimum as pointed out by wild man Turion is to have less delay so more power is generated and the drive input is nearly unaffected or only slightly reduced. That condition would offer the most generated output for the same drive motor input.

Imagine adding generator coils around the wheel that do not slow down the rotor when called upon to deliver real power. Add 5,10 or 100 and the coil does not slow down the rotor.

Generators today add 1 watt to get 1 watt, they are a less than 1:1 relationship.

[Turion]

The optimum as pointed out by wild man Turion is to have less delay so more power is generated and the drive input is nearly unaffected or only slightly reduced. That condition would offer the most generated output for the same drive motor input.

hey bro,
You say I never prove anything on the bench, but then QUOTE me as a source to support what YOU believe. You don't get to have it both ways. If IO haven't proved anything, you shouldn't be using ME as a source now should you? LOL

YOU might be able to prove some of this stuff to people if you had a prototype with more than one coil. But you don't. All talk and no action. Maybe if we wait another five years you will have wound a second coil by then. Stranger things have happened.

[BroMikey]

hey bro,

YOU might be able to prove some of this stuff to people if you had a prototype with more than one coil. But you don't.

Dave is slipping fast now, he and Bye can't remember my proto. Don Smith tried to late also. I warned him about those lead pipes he is drinking out of as he remodels to late. It's Hell gettin old.
I wonder where UFO is? 3 years ago

[BroMikey]

hey bro,
You say I never prove anything on the bench, but then QUOTE me as a source .................Stranger things have happened.

I guess I don't have any proof that is true, were you blowin smoke all This time? You should catch up.

[BroMikey]

This video is short, simple and clean, showing an excellent example to the viewers. Both types of coils are talked about with data to prove.

[Quantum_well]

Thane's thingy in that video is mind blowing!
140 watts in and 10 watts out works out to about .072.
166 watts in and 10 watts out works out to about .06 without regeneration, so there's clearly an advantage!

[BroMikey]

Thane's thingy in that video is mind blowing!
140 watts in and 10 watts out works out to about .072.
166 watts in and 10 watts out works out to about .06 without regeneration, so there's clearly an advantage!

Only to people with half a brain Very good quantum, there maybe be hope for you after all. Or you could say that one set of test= less than 1:COP and the other coil=more than 1:COP. SAY ITNow you just got yourself kicked out of university science.

[Turion]

Like I said, a ONE coil prototype. What happens when you try to run 12 coils? You have NO IDEA because you have never tried.

[Quantum_well]

Turion, your rotor spins nicely and it looks as if it'll have a toothed belt. It would be nice to see a brushless motor with vesc then you could tune for speed and efficiency.
https://youtu.be/ozGmsWeldqc

[BroMikey]

Like I said, a ONE coil prototype. What happens when you try to run 12 coils? You have NO IDEA because you have never tried.

Yes so true Dave I need to get with the program too. You have had the pretty hardware for the past 10-15 years since you retired. Can you run it this year? I need hopium, you could always set that stuff around on your fireplace mantle, talk piece. hardware King. I want to see the better tech, throw that stuff under the bench.

[BroMikey]

Thane's thingy in that video is mind blowing!
140 watts in and 10 watts out works out to about .072.
166 watts in and 10 watts out works out to about .06 without regeneration, so there's clearly an advantage!

You need to see it like this.

144w prime mover no load then loaded= 10w of like for a 20w increase to 166w

This is conventional generating. 20watts to generate 10 watts 50% Cop

RegenX coils 144w no load then loaded same no increase output 10watts COP= infinite

Add 100 coils no change. Maybe a slight increase say 200w prime mover for 1000watt output COP 500%

[Rakarskiy]

My little note on how Nikola Tesla's electric car could have been arranged.
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2021/...ctric-car.html

[Quantum_well]

You need to see it like this.

144w prime mover no load then loaded= 10w of like for a 20w increase to 166w

This is conventional generating. 20watts to generate 10 watts 50% Cop

RegenX coils 144w no load then loaded same no increase output 10watts COP= infinite

Add 100 coils no change. Maybe a slight increase say 200w prime mover for 1000watt output COP 500%

Yes,but he's been at it for 20 years and you've got to admit he hasn't shown anything useful.
In his lab he's surrounded by loads of junk, his Ebike is a joke, it's of no practical use and you see him even starting it by hand!

[Quantum_well]

There's a lot of interesting things in Whynot cycle's video. The sound of the motor is considerably less when he's using FOC. He said that after installing stronger magnets the motor's kv's were three or four times less.

[Quantum_well]

This has a few bits of interest, particularly the graph.
https://www.windynation.com/jzv/inf/...ircuit-current