Motor Generators

[Turion]

Thane says that the unit he shows on the bike develops 40 watts of power returned to the bike. It looks to be a 4 coil machine. So 10 watts of power per coil. Scaled up to generate enough power to run a small house at 100 amps x 120 volts that would be around 1200 coils. For a 200 amp service that’s 2,400 coils. Unless of course it is a different component or combination of components that is scaled up. Can’t wait to see that machine. I wonder which combination of components he claims can be increased in size or number or frequency to provide that kind of power output? You can see from the picture that the rotor magnets have no space between them, and there are already 24 magnets on the rotor. 300 more rotors? What will be the cost of that?

It will be up to the next generation to take it to that level, provided of course that Thane discloses the proprietary information about his existing machine, like coil material and coil configuration. I doubt that will happen. Otherwise that info would ALREADY have been disclosed in one of his numerous YouTube videos. Unless the conference is going to be his “big reveal” moment. What are the chances of that?

More than likely this will just be a “show and tell”moment with all the proprietary info remaining undisclosed. What do you want to bet? He would be giving away the farm to disclose all that to anyone with the financial backing to replicate, build a proof of concept replication, and then go into production. Why? Because while Thane holds or has applied for patents on all kinds of coil wiring configurations, I would argue that the Tesla coil configuration is already in the public domain because of the Tesla patent that has long expired. And when all that is required to put a coil in resonance at a constant rpm is waiting until the rotor has achieved a specific rpm before placing the prime mover under load and then having the proper capacitor across the coil to increase its capacitance and achieve resonance for THAT coil at THAT RPM, the only thing we are lacking is knowledge of his coil core material. As long as ALL your coils are the same, anyone can add capacitors across the coil to determine the resonance point. Trial and error, and they make adjustable capacitors

Anyway, can’t wait for the conference to see what is actually disclosed. Step by step building instructions? LOL

[BroMikey]

.... the bike develops 40 watts of power returned to the bike.

It looks to be a 4 coil machine.

10 watts of power per coil.

Unless the conference is going to be his “big reveal” moment. What are the chances of that?

He would be giving away the farm

Anyway, can’t wait for the conference to see what is actually disclosed. Step by step building instructions? LOL

You can be a real pain in the neck. spite just-a-pouring forth.

An e-bike demo or a tabletop black box is not the same as a sub-station you want it to be. A demo shows a looped condition for proof of concept. Maybe you would like to post all of your credit card numbers so everyone can draw money out of your account?

That is what you are saying Thane should do, give away 15 years of developmental secrets he spent $100's of thousands to learn. Of course a serious buyer would gain the knowledge. I can't believe how distasteful your personality has become. You attack people. Not a wise thing to do.

Your opinion is a mocking viewpoint of others, can't you do any better than that? I shouldn't be surprised since you have been attacking Thane ever since I brought out his first projects back in 2007.

[Turion]

All I’m saying is Thane will Probably NOT be giving away all his secrets at the conference. Do I BLAME him? NO! But don’t go there expecting to get a working” free energy device. Show and tell only and not showing all you need. What is spiteful about that? I’m pretty sure it’s an accurate statement of what will happen.

[BroMikey]

Thane says that the unit he shows on the bike develops 40 watts of power
What is spiteful about that?

For openers misrepresentation because the e-bike drive train was shuttering all over with kinetic and the recharge current keeping the packs full at 13amps@70vdc=910watts.

How is that 40w? And you should know that. Why not wish him well? You need to go and sit thru the lesson. Come on Dave give everybody a break. Who knows maybe Thane will be the first guy since Tesla to make any real money on this stuff without loosing his head.

Thane says that the unit he shows on the bike develops 40 watts of power returned to the bike. It looks to be a 4 coil machine. So 10 watts of power per coil.
..300 more rotors? What will be the cost of that?

LOL

[Turion]

40 watts is what THANE says in the video. So how is quoting HIM misrepresentation or spiteful? Before you accuse someone of something you should be sure you know what you are talking about.

[BroMikey]

Here is another success story thx to Thane Heins via Sir Konzen


BiTT: 11W input 23W output 120Vac feed from grid No caps in circuit. 67 degree phase angle.

[BroMikey]

Thane says that the unit he shows on the bike develops 40 watts of power
What is spiteful about that?

For openers misrepresentation because the e-bike drive train was shuttering all over with kinetic and the recharge current keeping the packs full at 13amps@70vdc=910watts.

How is that 40w? And you should know that. Why not wish him well? You need to go and sit thru the lesson. Come on Dave give everybody a break. Who knows maybe Thane will be the first guy since Tesla to make any real money on this stuff without loosing his head.

Thane says that the unit he shows on the bike develops 40 watts of power returned to the bike. It looks to be a 4 coil machine. So 10 watts of power per coil.
..300 more rotors? What will be the cost of that?

LOL

Amp draw for 3 coils (not 4) at minute 8 going to a 70volt pack.

Where does Thane show 10 watts per coil? He doesn't. You are jealous bro. I know I amGO THANE

[BroMikey]

Here is another success story thx to Thane Heins via Sir Konzen


BiTT: 11W input 23W output 120Vac feed from grid No caps in circuit. 67 degree phase angle.

Looks like a COP 2 using 60hz AC, Bill Alek used 3000hz and got a huge COP increase.

[BroMikey]

Bill Alek "BiTT" "SFT" bi-toroid or split phase transformer, as you wish

Phase conjugate

http://intalek.com/ActiveVacuum/ActiveVacuum.htm

[BroMikey]

Bill Alek SFT tests and measurements

[BroMikey]

by Aaron Murakami

2022-03-12

Thane Heins contacted me to present his RegenX Motor and Generator technology with a claim of infinite COP. I’m aware of his work over the years, the claims, etc. and I will reserve judgement on the validity of such claims. My condition is that he allows me to pick my own experts to independently measure/validate […]

[BroMikey]

E-bike demo with (always) 3 coil each capable of 5 amps apiece delivering 13.6amps (in this case) @ approx 70vdc = 950w while the drivetrain sings, battery voltage is stable. In an earlier test 2 coils were used and the bike voltage dropped over time to 66vdc so 3 coils worked best with no rider, for unlimited range.

One coil is measured at 5.4amps another at 4.8amps and so on. These coils operate at (or near) 5amp@70vdc so multiple 5X70=350w each

[BroMikey]

2 larger coils and one smaller. The 2 larger coils produce 5.4amps & 4.8amps while the smaller coil = 2.7amps. at one RPM in one test. Comparing the case width and tire you can see that these coils are not little.

[BroMikey]

1 Potential +/- Difference Inc. Regenerative Acceleration Generator Technology Demonstration University of Ottawa Lab


2 Demo Test # 1 Conventional Generator vs. Regenerative Acceleration Generator Technology The Regenerative Acceleration Generator is very similar to any conventional generator but it also employs extra high voltage coils to counteract and reverse the effects of armature reaction (or Lenz’s Law) inside the generator.


3 Demo Test # 1 Conventional Generator vs. Regenerative Acceleration Generator Technology When the Regenerative Acceleration Generator delivers power to the same load (light bulb) NOW the generator causes the motor to accelerate. Now the motor is consuming the least power while the generator is delivering the maximum power. Rotor speed is maximum at 3500 RPM. When a conventional generator delivers power to a load (light bulb) the generator causes the motor (prime mover) to decelerate. In the above photo the motor is consuming the maximum power but delivering virtually no power. Rotor speed is only 100 RPM.


4 Demo Test # 1 Conventional Generator vs. Regenerative Acceleration Generator Technology INPUT POWER REDUCTION = 41% OUTPUT POWER INCREASE = 373% The Regenerative Acceleration Generator has the proven ability to increase generator output energy by more than 373% over a conventional generator while at the same time decreasing motor input energy by 41%.


5 Demo Test # 2 Regenerative Acceleration Generator Optimization Further Regenerative Acceleration Generator developments include the optimization of the high voltage coils to deliver increased generator output power with system acceleration and the elimination of the high current coils.


6 Demo Test # 2 Regenerative Acceleration Generator Optimization NO LOAD CONDITION At full speed and with no load on the generator the system’s steady state speed is 3433 RPM. The prime mover is consuming 166 Watts. The generator is turned off and delivering 0 Watts.


7 Demo Test # 2 Regenerative Acceleration Generator Optimization ON LOAD CONDITION Now the generator is turned on, delivering 31 Watts to the load (light bulbs). The generator has accelerated the motor 11 RPM up to 3444 RPM from the no load speed of 3433 RPM. The motor input power has decreased by 6 Watts down to 160 Watts from the previous 166 Watt no load condition. Currently only two coils are employed but the rotor can accommodate at least 33.


8 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator Now a conventional generator coil has been added (gold & green coil). The conventional generator coil is mounted on the opposite side of the rotor and employs 6 poles (magnets). We will compare the conventional generator reaction to loading vs. the regenerative acceleration generator performance.


9 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator NO LOAD CONDITION Motor Power = 282 Watts Steady State Speed = 3283 RPM


10 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator ON LOAD CONDITION CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR Conventional generator delivers 6.4 Watts to the load (light bulb). Motor power consumption increases 10 Watts to 293 Watts. Speed decreases 21 RPM to 3262 RPM.


11 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator ON LOAD CONDITION CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR and PEREPITEIA GENERATOR Both conventional generator and regenerative acceleration generators are now delivering power to their loads. Conventional generator delivers 6.4 Watts Regenerative acceleration generator delivers 37.4 Watts Motor power has decreased 19 Watts down to 274 Watts Speed has increased 49 RPM up to 3311 RPM.


12 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR OFF LOAD PEREPITEIA GENERATOR ON LOAD. Now the conventional generator has been turned off. The regenerative acceleration generator output increases to 39 Watts. Motor power decreases 15 Watts down to 259 Watts. Speed increases to 3334 RPM.


13 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator PERFORMANCE COMPARISON SUMMARY Conventional generator on load alone delivers an output 6.35 Watts with a corresponding prime mover power input increase of 4% or 11 Watts. Regenerative acceleration generator and conventional generator on load deliver a combined output of 43.8 Watts with a prime mover input reduction of 19 Watts. This represents a 589% output power increase with a 6.5% input power decrease. Regenerative acceleration generator alone delivers a 498% output power increase over the conventional generator alone with a 11.6% decrease in prime mover input.


14 Demo Test # 3 Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs. Conventional Generator PERFORMANCE COMPARISON SUMMARY Generator Type Output Power Armature Reaction Input Increase / Decrease Conventional 6.35 W 11 Watt Generator Increase Regenerative 43.8 W 19 Watt Acceleration Decrease Generator (589% output power increase with a 6.5% input power decrease over the conventional generator)


15 Potential +/- Difference Inc. Bi-Toroid Transformer Technology Demonstration University of Ottawa Lab


16 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Conventional transformer NO LOAD. Coil current = 71 mA Power factor = 0 Load voltage = 0 volts


17 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Conventional transformer ON LOAD. Coil current = 139 mA Power factor = 1 Load voltage = 3.6 volts


18 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Bi-Toroid Transformer NO LOAD. Coil current = 130 mA Power factor = 0 Load voltage = 0 volts


19 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Bi-Toroid Transformer ON LOAD. Coil current = 130 mA Power factor = 0 Load voltage = 1.6 volts


20 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer ON LOAD NO LOAD ON LOAD Conventional Transformer Bi-Toroid Transformer Bi-Toroid Transformer Power Factor = 1 Power Factor = 0 Power Factor = 0


21 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Primary Coil Current and Power Factor Comparison Conventional Conventional Bi-Toroid Bi-Toroid Transformer Transformer Transformer Transformer NO Load ON Load NO Load ON Load Current 71 139 130 130 mA Power 0 1 0 0 Factor


22 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Bi-Toroid Transformer NO LOAD Bi-Toroid Transformer ON LOAD The above photo-data show the power factor (Pf) of the Bi-Toroid transformer with an increased 18.5 input voltage. The power factor is virtually unchanged.


23 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Although it is hard to believe the above left close up scope shot is the Bi-Toroid NO LOAD and the right is ON LOAD. There is a slight 25% increase in primary coil current (100 mA) with the higher input voltage although the power factor is virtually zero.


24 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer Conventional Transformer ON LOAD With an increased 18.5 volt input to the primary coil, the conventional transformer’s purely resistive load dictates the primary coil’s power factor of 1 and the primary current quadruples.


25 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer In the conventional transformer, the primary coil delivers flux to the secondary coil via the transformer’s ferromagnetic core. A voltage is induced in the secondary coil. On no load, the primary coil’s voltage and current are 90 degrees out of phase and only reactive power exists in the primary coil. Primary Real Power = 0


26 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer When the secondary coil is placed on load, current flows in the coil. This current produces a secondary induced flux (blue) which couples back to the primary coil. This secondary flux reduces the primary coil’s impedance (AC resistance) and more source current enters the primary coil. The increase in primary current increases the primary flux (red) and this flux increase maintains the voltage across the load. The load power factor is transferred back to the primary and now real power is consumed in the primary coil.


27 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer


28 In the Bi-Toroid transformer the primary flux is divided between the two secondary coils – Secondary 1 and Secondary 2. Voltages are induced in both secondary coils. The primary coil’s voltage and current are 90 degrees out of phase and only reactive power exists in the primary coil. Primary Real Power = 0 Watts.


29 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer

[BroMikey]

https://slideplayer.com/slide/4783242/

30 When the Bi-Toroid transformer is placed on load the secondary induced fluxes DO NOT enter the primary core leg due to its higher reluctance (magnetic resistance). Instead Secondary 1’s flux enters Secondary 2 and vise versa and the coils self regulate their own voltages across the loads. Real power is delivered to the loads. Primary Real Power = 0 Watts.


31 Demo Test # 4 Bi-Toroid vs. Conventional Transformer PERFORMANCE COMPARISON SUMMARY Transformer Type No Load On Load Conventional Primary draws Primary draws Transformer reactive power real power power factor mirrors load Bi-Toroid Primary draws Primary draws Transformer reactive power reactive power power factor ignores load


32 Demo Test # 5 New Bi-Toroid Transformer Design & Performance Tests July 11, 2009 The next generation Bi-Toroid Transformer design includes an additional secondary core, which provides another secondary coil induced flux path route – keeping it away from the primary core.


33 Demo Test # 5 New Bi-Toroid Transformer Design & Performance Tests July 11, 2009 Performance Data Primary Input Voltage = 58.8 volts Primary Input Current = 0.017 amps Primary Power Factor = 85 degrees / 0.087 Primary Input Power = 87.1 mWatts


34 Demo Test # 5 New Bi-Toroid Transformer Design & Performance Tests July 11, 2009 Primary voltage and current sine waves Pf = 85 degrees or cos85 = 0.087 Each mark on the X axis = 6.92 degrees (x 26 = 180 degrees)


35 Demo Test # 5 New Bi-Toroid Transformer Design & Performance Tests July 11, 2009 Performance Data Primary Input Voltage = 58.8 volts Primary Input Current = 0.017 amps Primary Power Factor = 85 degrees / 0.087 Primary Input Power = 87.1 mWatts Secondary Load = 27 ohms Secondary Load Voltage = 3.1 volts Secondary Output Power = 356 mWatts Transformer Efficiency = 409%


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