Keshe Blueprint

[DavidE]

Ben2503

Keshe has been very open that with the blueprint you could build a home unit for about $10. Then he releases the blueprint so that any can build one, or you are invited to go into production and market them in your own country.

Part of the cost of the units on the website also include tax payments to the countries governments, and also 1-3 more units that the Foundation will gift to those that don't have funds to purchase.

Keshe's sense is that we (citizens of the world) need to have a larger view of advancing technology, than just our own selfish interest.

I don't necessarily agree with his methods to accomplish this - but if he is releasing what he claims to be - at a minimum, he deserves our appreciation.

[Sputins]

Experimenters Should Experiment

What went wrong that people even pay attention to this?
Any serious discussion on any of Keshes experiments, theories, promises etc. is an insult to both your intelligence and the intelligence of the person you are addressing.

What am I doing here anyway?

Ernst.

The above sentences seemed so scathing, closed off and discouraging to experimenters even looking at this, that it actually required me download the blueprints and take a look myself. Perhaps I wouldn’t have normally done so, but now I have to see what all the fuss is about...

Suspending either belief or disbelief, I can’t see any reason why an inquisitive experimenter shouldn’t have a go at making a set of coils and testing them as described in the blueprints if they wished. - Provided that they prepared to accept that it may not work.

The worst case is that they might have wasted their time and a few dollars giving it a try… It looks as if it would only take a few hours with minimal expense. (It’s not like having to wind four 10H coils or something).

But that’s called experimenting… I would encourage experimenters, not discourage them.

Then again, maybe the experimenter who tries this might find that they’ve actually arrived at a point whereas to produce some peculiar results worthy of further investigation?

So those of you that do have a go at following the blueprints exactly as described, report your findings… Let the experimental results speak.

[tony1968]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piT7Vgc9sCw[/VIDEO]

[DavidE]

Production unit provided to Ambassadors Worldwide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8421o8xOZw

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8421o8xOZw[/VIDEO]

[bistander]

Can you guys include the link also? My device doesn't support the plug-ins. Thanks. bi

Thanks DavidE.

[bistander]

Build a model to test?

... I can’t see any reason why an inquisitive experimenter shouldn’t have a go at making a set of coils and testing them as described in the blueprints if they wished. - Provided that they prepared to accept that it may not work.

The way I read the "blueprints", if the builder is prepared to accept that it may not work, then it will be doomed to failure. Faith, Love, Patience and Prayer are essential ingredients. Or did I misread that?

bi

[Bob Smith]

Technical Musings on the Coils

Just some technical musings on the coils:

If the nano-coated coils are negative resistors (and I believe this is what they are intended as), then they must be acting ln a catalytic fashion, enabling the aether's stored energy to enter the nano-coated coils as dielectricity.

Does the arrangement of counter-wound inner and outer coils provide a kind of charge gradient within itself?

Would this charge gradient translate into an ongoing imbalanced state which allows the aether's reservoir of energy to continuously pass into the coils and be transmuted into dielectricity through the agency of the nano-coating?

I believe that counter-rotating magnetic fields are also present here, through the arrangement of oppositely wound coils. This seems to play a role in drawing in the aether's power as well.

I haven't read Keshe's books, and I'm sure he describes these things. I'm trying to get a basic grasp without wading into his writings, by following his videos his videos and reading the blueprints.

I think there might be other ways to do this besides copper windings - perhaps even with germanium diodes.

Anyone have any comment on the notions of negative resistance, charge gradients and counter-rotating mag fields in Keshe's system?
Bob

[DavidE]

Update.

There is an esoteric component of the Keshe initiatives. When you first begin just to listen and observe, it does fly in the face of so much traditional thinking. And I think rationally that is why many move away before full examining the possibilities.

To get a better sense of this, you can click into the Keshe Blueprint Livestream. Questions from people all over the world are being answered. Sometimes the answer makes sense, sometimes it just more trying to frame operational characteristics, versus specific answers.

Livestream
KFSSI Blueprint Teaching on Livestream

[Ben2503]

Believe it or not

Update.

There is an esoteric component of the Keshe initiatives. When you first begin just to listen and observe, it does fly in the face of so much traditional thinking. And I think rationally that is why many move away before full examining the possibilities.

To get a better sense of this, you can click into the Keshe Blueprint Livestream. Questions from people all over the world are being answered. Sometimes the answer makes sense, sometimes it just more trying to frame operational characteristics, versus specific answers.

Livestream
KFSSI Blueprint Teaching on Livestream

I believe in the universal language of proper measurements. I spent many hours listening and observing his explanations and claims, but didn't come across any decent measurement. Instead of talking for hours, mr Keshe could spent 15 mins on showing a decent test set-up (as he probably learned at college) and the marvelous results.
IMHO this would turn all critics and disbelievers in true believers (or at least one)

Take care.
Ben

[DavidE]

Ben2503

Your logic is great - but I think that the discourse has followed a different path so that the knowledge had a greater chance of being released to the masses. A truly altruistic act that we are not use to seeing.

On many occasions I sent request to experience a real device operating and was told that... countless worldwide would be building devices - and they would freely share a wide range of results.

If you consider where this technology may go (if it proves out), it is easy to see how many countries and big business interest would act to protect what they deem are their monopolistic rights.

But if the knowledge and capacity to manifest the benefits are available to every citizen of every country - it would be hard to stop worldwide.

First consideration of something on this scale... is a big stretch, secondly reflecting on how our planet would change... for me is off the scale.

All we can do is - build our own devices and see what they produce for us. And while we are doing that, observe what others are experiencing... then we will force ourselves to accept a change to our belief system based on what we learn... or not.

[dragon]

Step back from your initial emotional responses to the device then walk the line between skepticism and curiosity. I'd bet many here have wasted more time on other projects that yielded very little in return other than knowledge, which in itself, is a substantial reward... this is no different. If it actually works - great, if not then you have new tools to work with on the next project. In order to achieve our goals we must evolve toward that end.

I agree, it would be nice to actually see a working unit with measurements of input and output... that would at least reduce the skepticism. Until then I remain skeptical but curious.... then again I have ulterior motives for learning about the coating processes...

[SlickDick]

Ben2503

Your logic is great - but I think that the discourse has followed a different path so that the knowledge had a greater chance of being released to the masses. A truly altruistic act that we are not use to seeing.

On many occasions I sent request to experience a real device operating and was told that... countless worldwide would be building devices - and they would freely share a wide range of results.

If you consider where this technology may go (if it proves out), it is easy to see how many countries and big business interest would act to protect what they deem are their monopolistic rights.

But if the knowledge and capacity to manifest the benefits are available to every citizen of every country - it would be hard to stop worldwide.

First consideration of something on this scale... is a big stretch, secondly reflecting on how our planet would change... for me is off the scale.

All we can do is - build our own devices and see what they produce for us. And while we are doing that, observe what others are experiencing... then we will force ourselves to accept a change to our belief system based on what we learn... or not.

I disagree, Many disclosures have altruistically been made by many. The problem with replicating is , replicating behaviour is something humans do naturally, replicating a proposal seems to be a challenge for most, as also seen on this forum. Replicators improving instead of replicating, or not even replicating at all because not following instructions. Add to that, There are some discrepancies in the blue print instructions and the teechings, wich makes following exact instructions impossible.

What is also worrisome is the fact that the product can be bought, however the product lacks product specifications:



The description provided:

With this product, you are able to support the main outlets in your house. This allows the system to increase the supply that you are receiving and meet the demand that you are using at that point.

Can also apply on just an empty outlet plug for example. It literally does not have any meaning whatsoever.

Also:

*actual functioning product as demonstrated on October 16th, 2015*

I assume this refers to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqwxKwG93Hg Where really nothing has been demonstrated.

Then there is the tax issue. Everybody seems to be paying 21% sales tax. People outside Belgium should be taxed 0% (zero). Also there is a 300 donation fee. Donations are exempt from tax, but:



The 300 donation fee is taxed at 21%.

Some minor things. The order process does not let you specify if its universal or car. Also it does not let you specify if you need EU or US socket plugs.

Very strange to say the least, and makes you wonder.

Don't get me wrong. I would like to believe it would generate power, but there is in imo not a single reason to believe other then what is actually being said and written:

With this product, you are able to support the main outlets in your house. This allows the system to increase the supply that you are receiving and meet the demand that you are using at that point.

[ewizard]

Very interesting info - thanks DavidE. Too simple not to try. While it sounds a little far out there I would love to prove some of the stuff considered "woo-woo" new age nonsense as having real validity. I read a lot of Dan Winter's info long ago as well as seeing him in person. Keshe's blueprints sit in that realm of things and it would be great to see something like this working and toppling mainstream closed minded thinking regarding the nature of electricity.

[DavidE]

SlickDick

As to the altruistic value - let's hold that final consideration until we can assess true value to the citizens of the world. If anybody knocked on your door and offered to introduce you to an "aware plasma" what would you say? Its a frame of reference that for most on the planet will not illicit much notice.

I have far more discrepancies and concerns than you have noted... BUT there is also some pretty interesting phenomena beginning to form around this venture.

No matter how insane, how illogical or how improbable that WE think it is - it is their field of science and discovery to shape.

If you were the inventor of Pizza's, and you opened a store - you and I both know that many of the customers would quickly try to tell you, the pizzeria owner, how to make pizza's.

For now let's observe with keen interest and let the results of builders of these devices tell the story.

[bistander]

What does it do?

What is also worrisome is the fact that the product can be bought, however the product lacks product specifications:

As such, it would be difficult to make a claim about non-performance of the product once you've bought it. I also note that it plugs into or is installed into the electrical system of a residential building and it has no indication of agency listings or certifications such as UL or CE. I doubt you can find a qualified electrician to install the device or consult as directed on the blueprints/installation manual. (speaking from the USA)

bi