Keshe, Fraud, Fraud or super-plasma-coated Fraud?

[RAMSET]

The Mark...

Regarding qualifications ,he is more qualified than most to replicate Keshe's "everyman" technology.[a pack of Gum some paper clips and soda bottles alah McGiver themes.

I personally had never watched anything from this man except a few minutes of a Rocket stove build.
His Keshe Work/replication was pointed out recently .

It would be time better spent to take an alkeseltzer [for your tummy ache] and point out where you feel he misses the mark [although its still a moving target with no real conclusions yet.

or we could just wait till Monday [the Monday morning quarterback syndrome

as for myself ...
I am sincerely grateful for his efforts ,and any others brought to these pages with similar transparency and honesty.
just one mans opinion.

Respectfully
Chet

[DeLorean]

YEA!!!!!!!!! IT WORKS, IT WORKS!!!!! Thanks Ramset


What is it?

That guy calls the "SSG" a fraud

BroMikey,
look at the video ... Replication runs but doesn´t seem to produce the results Keshe states. now, 11-09-15 the lifelink is down so there should not have been positive results in the meantime after some weeks.

[BroMikey]

If you all saw the Keshe seminar remember how even the very educated
in the group had to be continually corrected? Keshe kept saying this is
not done with current?

And Zero sort of made fun by saying he wasn't surprised that a certain
compound was not formed because there was no current?

As if current could be the only way to get the job done so Keshe
was put in the light as a liar by Zero as he chuckles.

The belly ache I get when I listen to ZERO does not stem from the
Keshe video although this video did not help my tum tum at all.

I don't trust the myth busters either. To me ZERO is the same thing
always showing a similitude of another mans invention and always
coming up short of the effect while injecting all kinds of comical
slurs.

The guy has multiplied thousands tied up in throw away "TOYS" as
many would refer to these devices as. Rightfully so, most would
say "If Zero can't do it with his piles of money why should I try?"

It is just another form of mind control and that is why my intestinal has
formed a massive abdominal rumble when I watch his 6th grade experiments. I guess my stomach problem just moved
to the lower section. In other words a sick feeling when I watch him.

The effect is right in front of him many times and brushes right over
it because he knows what his fans want to hear.

He doesn't know any better and after telling the people what they want
to hear long enough I suppose they send him $$$ Maybe some
of his old university buddies.

This guy has great wealth, and our free energy quest is suppose to
easy the burden on those who are taken for granted/pushed around
not flushed down the stool by the thousands week after week and year
after year.

[RAMSET]

sound of one hand clapping

sooo we need more examples !!

some fellow here mentioned hundreds of replications going on ATM ??
another few would do for the moment.

You gotta work on that constitution Mikey...ain't good to be sooo queezy ,this Biz can eat you up Kiddo.

respectfully
Chet

[Dfortune]

A serious "keshe" experimenter

Hello all

I would like to suggest this fellow who is doing a serious replication of Keshe claims


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4B...fqOqy43JWtZb-w

[Ernst]

If you all saw the Keshe seminar remember how even the very educated in the group had to be continually corrected? Keshe kept saying this is
not done with current?

Shall we connect an (milli-)ampmeter between the copper and zinc plate? and then discuss who needs to be corrected?

And Zero sort of made fun by saying he wasn't surprised that a certain
compound was not formed because there was no current?

As if current could be the only way to get the job done so Keshe
was put in the light as a liar by Zero as he chuckles.

So Zero can only be trusted if he doesn't laugh or makes jokes about those ludicrous ideas?
Come on! That at least shows that there is something going on inside his head.
You have very strong feelings against our modern education system and on many points I would share those. But to be led by those emotions into accepting anything and everything that is outside of what they teach, that goes a bit too far for me.
There are things that you learn at school that are actually true, and there are things that are not exactly true but will nevertheless predict the correct outcome.

Back to Mr. Zero,... There are hundreds of OU-claims, most of them not true. So it is very easy to pick ten or twenty and show they don't work. You can not blame Zero for that.
I like this man because of the way he does things. And if you don't like his results, tell him what he did wrong!

When I get energy from my magnifying transmitter I hope to see many people like him!
Sceptical, laughing, making jokes, but also trying their very best to replicate my results.
And then we will see who is laughing in the end.

The Keshe plans hold a number of undefined points on which he can always blame the fact that some replication does not work.
- Did you pray before you started?
- how did you pray and to whom?
- did you send good intentions to it?
(How on Earth do you send good intentions to a machine? By mail? e-mail? Does it have some interface where you can drop your intentions? ???? )
Keshe can always come to inspect your replica and say "I see that you or someone else send bad intentions to it.... verrrrrrry bad intentions...... the whole thing is ruined"


Ernst.

[boguslaw]

Shall we connect an (milli-)ampmeter between the copper and zinc plate? and then discuss who needs to be corrected?



So Zero can only be trusted if he doesn't laugh or makes jokes about those ludicrous ideas?
Come on! That at least shows that there is something going on inside his head.
You have very strong feelings against our modern education system and on many points I would share those. But to be led by those emotions into accepting anything and everything that is outside of what they teach, that goes a bit too far for me.
There are things that you learn at school that are actually true, and there are things that are not exactly true but will nevertheless predict the correct outcome.

Back to Mr. Zero,... There are hundreds of OU-claims, most of them not true. So it is very easy to pick ten or twenty and show they don't work. You can not blame Zero for that.
I like this man because of the way he does things. And if you don't like his results, tell him what he did wrong!

When I get energy from my magnifying transmitter I hope to see many people like him!
Sceptical, laughing, making jokes, but also trying their very best to replicate my results.
And then we will see who is laughing in the end.

The Keshe plans hold a number of undefined points on which he can always blame the fact that some replication does not work.
- Did you pray before you started?
- how did you pray and to whom?
- did you send good intentions to it?
(How on Earth do you send good intentions to a machine? By mail? e-mail? Does it have some interface where you can drop your intentions? ???? )
Keshe can always come to inspect your replica and say "I see that you or someone else send bad intentions to it.... verrrrrrry bad intentions...... the whole thing is ruined"


Ernst.

Looks like more evolved QEG concept. You can replicate it ONLY if you have special grade nano-coatings...which can be bought only from Keshe.

[BroMikey]

Shall we connect an (milli-)ampmeter between the copper and zinc plate? and then discuss who needs to be corrected?



So Zero can only be trusted if he doesn't laugh

- Did you pray before you started?

- how did you pray and to whom?

- did you send good intentions to it?
(How on Earth do you send good intentions to a machine?

Your goal is to trick, drive a wedge, send out condescending messages

you are a crippled person or should I say very bitter and high minded.

All of your messages are well thought out ways to twist the words
of any post you are using to make your point. You are a miracle
worker when it comes to contrivances in speech to manipulate
your stoolies.

You are the only one that thinks what you do with others words
is hidden. Your desire to use words to divide and conquer for a
highminded purpose are clear to most.

Zero spends thousands upon thousands with no end in sight like
pouring cheat through a tin horn with no practical working OU.

All of his video's that validate any claim are left on a worthless
note of either not being cost effective or just plain silly.

What he is about is hidden in plain sight "ZERO" and that is all
ZERO will ever show us. He has given up because he must tickle
the ears of his stoolies.

Any serious researcher is after a clean effective way to produce
an alternate form of energy and does not jump all over like a
grasshopper dropping 10's of thousands for fun.

Zero has been at it for 10-20 years and will never find a practical
source of energy other than solar or wind. He can't help that he
is like that. He is not a true researcher. He is a man with 100's
of thousands to thrown around while he says I told ya so.

It don't work. ZERO.

Never mind all of that here watch the big boys.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRlwHLZhHeg[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLW1wV35jA[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

Hello all

I would like to suggest this fellow who is doing a serious replication of Keshe claims


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4B...fqOqy43JWtZb-w

Enough already of talking about ZERO's this guy really is a researcher
and he is a great thinker too. I have been following him. Nice link this
man is not a 6th grade experimenter.

[BroMikey]

Looks like more evolved QEG concept. You can replicate it ONLY if you have special grade nano-coatings...which can be bought only from Keshe.

No, you make them from old copper wire. Look at the TUBE video's
"GaNs" "nano coatings" lots of people are getting at it for practically
nothing.

Now I don't know if it works but it is a cheap enough experiment to
test Keshe work.

I was just watching a video where the guy made some of that green
goo (GaNs) and he rolled some it up on metal foils and now he has
a nice battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpVFkzuKG9Y


The passive reactor was just set up. Electrodes are made of copper wires having half of their length nano coated by steam of aqueous NaOH solution in a polypropylene box, and the other half etched in acid, then thoroughly rinsed in water. The solution consists of water solution of salts found in the nature. Main salts used are NaCl and Mg2SO4, Some potassium salts ant some trace minerals are also present in a small quantity. The system weights 2119 grams on July 21, 2014.


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rn7MIdXFco[/VIDEO]

[Ben2503]

old stuff

Your goal is to trick, drive a wedge, send out condescending messages

you are a crippled person or should I say very bitter and high minded.

All of your messages are well thought out ways to twist the words
of any post you are using to make your point. You are a miracle
worker when it comes to contrivances in speech to manipulate
your stoolies.

You are the only one that thinks what you do with others words
is hidden. Your desire to use words to divide and conquer for a
highminded purpose are clear to most.

Zero spends thousands upon thousands with no end in sight like
pouring cheat through a tin horn with no practical working OU.

All of his video's that validate any claim are left on a worthless
note of either not being cost effective or just plain silly.

What he is about is hidden in plain sight "ZERO" and that is all
ZERO will ever show us. He has given up because he must tickle
the ears of his stoolies.

Any serious researcher is after a clean effective way to produce
an alternate form of energy and does not jump all over like a
grasshopper dropping 10's of thousands for fun.

Zero has been at it for 10-20 years and will never find a practical
source of energy other than solar or wind. He can't help that he
is like that. He is not a true researcher. He is a man with 100's
of thousands to thrown around while he says I told ya so.

It don't work. ZERO.

Never mind all of that here watch the big boys.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRlwHLZhHeg[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLW1wV35jA[/VIDEO]

These video's are > 1 year old. I checked his Facebook to see the end of the story and the celebration of the succes.https://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1
nothing!!

[Ernst]

Your goal is to trick, drive a wedge, send out condescending messages

you are a crippled person or should I say very bitter and high minded.

All of your messages are well thought out ways to twist the words
of any post you are using to make your point. You are a miracle
worker when it comes to contrivances in speech to manipulate
your stoolies.

You are the only one that thinks what you do with others words
is hidden. Your desire to use words to divide and conquer for a
highminded purpose are clear to most.

Now we all know what my problem is, what is yours?



Ernst.

[SlickDick]

Come on gentlemen... Let's try not to get our panties wet just yet.

Everyone will get their reward. The fanboys, the haters, the players and even the buyers.

Experience gained, lessons learned.

Life is good!

[Ben2503]

it works

check this
Owi Salt Water Fuel Cell Kit - RobotShop

I like the saying:
"If you think training is expensive, try ignorance"

I am done.
Bey

[RAMSET]

very good resource

Ben
This is a good place to look.
[your link] https://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1

I will try to contact a few, I urge anybody reading here to do the same and report back.

these folks span the globe [and so do we] lets try to get some real data and answers .

thanks

Chet