ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[Ufopolitics]

That was funny Bistander...lol

Hi Ufo,

I didn't think that was the case. So I did some looking around and found someone who agrees with me at physics.stackexchange.com.

The word "flux" is something of an accident of history. See for example it's use in Gauss' law or as a magnetic flux. Nothing is actually flowing e.g. for a static charge we would still refer to the flux through a surface surrounding the charge even though the system is time independant.

bi

That was really funny Bistander!!...

"An Accident of History"??!!...Wow! for God sake really funny, Oh, my stomach hurts...!!

It sounds like a Soap Opera!!

"The Accident of History"...watch the final chapters soon!...lol

You will see the Real "Accident of History" pretty soon...

Cheers


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

N - N vs S - S

I will post this link. The first two animations show the fields in question here very well (without arrows). Magnets in Motion

Hi Ufo,

I guess I didn't realize your quandary was with the fact there was no difference between the magnitude of the repelling force between two identical magnets N to N, vs S to S. I think the animations to which I linked do an excellent job showing the fields independent of arrows and Ns & Ss. The first animation will look the same if it is N - S, or S - N. And the second animation will look the same regardless if it is N - N, or S - S.

bi

[bistander]

Flux not flow

That was really funny Bistander!!...

"An Accident of History"??!!...Wow! for God sake really funny, Oh, my stomach hurts...!!

I'm glad you're amused. I do hope you noticed the part I'll highlight below:

See for example it's use in Gauss' law or as a magnetic flux. Nothing is actually flowing e.g. for a static charge we would still refer to the flux through a surface surrounding the charge even though the system is time independant.

[nathan97]

I find this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5GY...&nohtml5=False from this new thread from this forum (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tex-motor.html) quite useful to the discussion.

UFO don't you think ?

[ldrancer]

Absolutely it is tough to work with the invisible

RELIGION

so your tryign to prove a theory without an object now. so your not even trying to prove how a magnet works. and i dont see how a magnet can work. yuo just claim it works. you didnt attempt to bother with the paper i linked to up there. you claimed you are right by using your own, comment.

thats not scientific. you said you dnot need the hurricane.. well then where did the hurricane go?

so again your not even proving how a magnet works. a vortex is a concept and you claim Im wrong based on your own comment you used for making it up, you claim your own theory is right because, you just made it up.

thats not scientific. you dont belong in science. and you didnt even attempt to use the scientific method. you have zero critical thinking your even attackign me in here with, DARK MATTER.

JUST CHANGE THE TOPIC TO BLACK HOLES ARE REALLY REALLY REAL SINCE YOU DONT CARE WHICH FALSE MADE UP JUNK YOUR TRYING TO PROVE, IF ITS A MAGNET IS A VORTEX, YOUR NOT EVEN TRYING TO PROVE ANYTHING ANY OBJECT ANY MORE. SICKENING TOPIC JUST AS MUCH AS YOUR VIDEOS. WHEELER WHORING TO OTHERS HOW TO BE SICK LIKE HIM AND *****. AND YOUR RIDING HIM ARENT YOU. YOUR ATTACKS ON A VIDEO HOSTING SITE UP THERE, VIMEO SHOWS YOUR REAL STATUS OPERANDA.

THATS MY STANCE UNTIL PROVED AND SHOWN OTHERWISE. YOULL TAKE ANYTHING YOU CAN LIE ABOUT THROUGH YOUR TEETH.

I HOPE PEOLLE GET SMART BEFORE THEY DESTROY THE INTERNET PRETENDING YOU IDIOTS WITH YOUR BREAD BUTTER OH PLEASE KEEP ME MY JOB IDIOTS LIKE EVEN MATTER EVER IN ANYTHING LIKE EVER ****GIN STUPID.

HERES MORE ABOUT A VORTEX BEIGN FAKE IVE NOT WATCHED IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH YET BUT AND ITS BILL GAEDE AGAIN, HES FRIENDS WITH STEVEN CROTHERS, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbtP6J-IIvo

AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MAGNETS WORK, HERES A SIMPLE VIDEO ITS WAY SIMPLER AND IT EXPLAINS YOULL UNDERSTAND.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evfUTmx0uh8

SO UNTIL YOU COME UP WITH AN IDEA, DONT ASK OTHERS TO JOIN OR WAST ETHEIR TIME AND WITH YOU YOU BEGGING FOR MONEY

I POSTED THEM video links up there becuase they actually explain the topic, and quell peoples wonder for what the **** A MAGFNWEWT IS. and an explanation of your hog ****. it explains to me, and i dont expect yuo to comment or be able to joint he conversation or anything. you know

whatevcer who cares.

screw yoru concept of a vortex that has never ever been proven. its a fake comic bood scare tactic word. and now you thijnk you dont need anything and when other people bring up these things you think your right and you use your own comment to attack with. and you USE DARK MATTER TOO! this is unscientific, you not discussing with anyone, your only begging for money. end this topic.

if you have nothing to prove about what i asked, shut up

[aljhoa]

"magnet on a tread"


Al

[ldrancer]

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Al

how is that, Professor Eric Laithwaite gives a demonstration of a large gyro wheel , a magnet?

[aljhoa]

how is that, Professor Eric Laithwaite gives a demonstration of a large gyro wheel , a magnet?

"two magnets on a tread"

"vortex on a tread"


Al

[ldrancer]

hey bromikey this is your zionist antiwhite hate comment here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_deFJD2hNI
your the kind of guy who would never state somethign by yourself and only mob attack like those punks in that video did. you are a zionist i can see your comments on that video bro mikey.

but anyway ill never step into a temple, a building you worship.

[bistander]

Magnetic flux is not flow

Red and Blue lines represent the two different polarized fields...North is Blue, Red is South.

Flux Meaning (Physics):


The rate of flow of a fluid, radiant energy, or particles across a given area.
synonyms: continuous change, changeability, variability, inconstancy, fluidity, instability, unsteadiness, fluctuation, variation, shift, movement, oscillation, alternation, rise and fall, seesawing, yo-yoing
"the flux of vapor in the tube"

antonyms: stability

the amount of radiation or number of particles incident on an area in a given time.
the total electric or magnetic field passing through a surface.

a substance mixed with a solid to lower its melting point, used especially in soldering and brazing metals or to promote vitrification in glass or ceramics.

a substance added to a furnace during metal smelting or glass making that combines with impurities to form slag.I really get goose bumps whenever any of you guys start using old terms as baptized in the Classic Physics...lol

According to above definition, the basic Flux Meaning bolts down to Flow

No, magnetic flux means this:

the total electric or magnetic field passing through a surface.

That is right out of the definition which you quoted. Magnetic flux is not flow.

bi

[bistander]

Replication

The CAD below show the magnetic steps involved in an Attraction:

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The Image above is a Link to my Photobucket Acct, there it could be zoomed and scrolled for better viewing of each step.

A Brief description:

LINE 1 IMAGES - Two Magnets approach from South>><<North

LINE 2 IMAGE- At certain distance which depends upon magnet strength, size, or spec's in general as composition etc,this stage could develop at longer or shorter distance.
What develops here:

PRIMARILY TAKES PLACE THE HIGH PRESSURE EXCHANGE BETWEEN CLOSER POLES OF THE TWO MAGNETS:

A) Left Magnet South HP Vortex starts connecting with Right Magnet HP South Gate (at center of North Pole)

B) Right Magnet North HP Vortex also connects with Left Magnet HP North Gate (at center of South Pole)

The way this takes place is by a Common Center Spiral exactly at the mid space between both magnets faces, this dual vortexes spinning at the same direction create a Higher Counterspace Accretion Disc.

SECOND, IMMEDIATE MID PRESSURES FROM BOTH MAGNETS STARTS CONNECTING ALSO TO THE NEW HP GATES LINKS EXCHANGE

A) Left Magnet South MP Vortex brakes connection with magnet center accretion disc to start entering Right Magnet Higher Pressure Gate.

B) Right Magnet North MP Vortex does exactly same process as above...

I represented the old MP connections in faded colors red and blue.

THIRD, FURTHER MP STARTS CONNECTING TO NEW FORMED CENTERED ACCRETION DISC

A) Left Magnet North MP Links with Center Spatial Accretion Disc.

B) Right Magnet South MP also links to new formed Center Spatial Disc.

This two latest MP connections assists HP Attraction Forces as each magnets center accretion counterspace disc starts approaching Main Center Spatial Disc from both ends and reducing immediate MP Vortexes into "voidance".

LINE 3 (THIRD IMAGE) is a closer approach not making physical contact yet, small gap still, to notice the shrinking of Inner MP Vortexes as both dielectric fields from each magnet get closer to Main Center one.

In 3D this connections looks like two spheres shrinking.

The old method with loose Iron dust model can not define but one single sphere forming between both magnets, however, color CRT Imaging , Viewing Film and Ferrocell Lens depicts this center separation/compression of the two spheres perfectly well.

LINE 4 (FINAL IMAGE) is the full new magnet formed, it has added the strength from both, and the original structure as a single magnet is finished.

You know All this steps takes only fractions of seconds.

This process is completely reversible, meaning, as we brake both magnets apart, the whole process will be reversed also in fractions of seconds.

There are two ways to visualize this interaction...one expensive method and another one cheaper.

HD Cam on tripod filming in slow motion, while magnets run inside a clear plastic tubing...

Or cheaper, get two identical magnets with holes running from pole to pole...and using fine long brass or 100% stainless bolt & nuts to separate air gaps while taking pics...then screwing them together in steps...

CRT SCREENING:

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MIXED UP VIEW FILM AND CRT:

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Regards


Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

A short while ago I replicated this using magnetic viewing film and bar magnets. The magnets were identical. I was able to get results looking like lines 1 and 2 in your diagrams. The lines you drew in yellowish green appear as light lines on the viewing film right over the center of each magnet and centered between the two magnets as shown in the center frame of your last posted image. However I could not get these center lines to move off of magnet mid-point no matter how close together I brought the magnets, even touching. In other words, I was unable to replicate lines 3 & 4 in your diagrams.

This was repeated numerous times using two different sets of bar magnets. I haven't seen you do the actual experiment. Perhaps you could do it when you get a chance.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

You did all tests wrong then...

Hi Ufo,

A short while ago I replicated this using magnetic viewing film and bar magnets. The magnets were identical. I was able to get results looking like lines 1 and 2 in your diagrams. The lines you drew in yellowish green appear as light lines on the viewing film right over the center of each magnet and centered between the two magnets as shown in the center frame of your last posted image. However I could not get these center lines to move off of magnet mid-point no matter how close together I brought the magnets, even touching. In other words, I was unable to replicate lines 3 & 4 in your diagrams.

This was repeated numerous times using two different sets of bar magnets. I haven't seen you do the actual experiment. Perhaps you could do it when you get a chance.

Regards,

bi

Bistander,

This Tests has been seeing/done from many different other people/sources including Ken's Book...and His Thread...

However, now you are attempting and it happens it don't work (for you)...

So, first, let me say that Magnets MUST BE BALANCED as strength, even being identical, and normally ceramics are lousy magnets to do this kind of specific testing since they are not as compact in magnetic strength as Neo's are.

But, no matter what, here I did a sequence on the same cheap, Unbalanced Radio Shack old Ceramic rectangle cubes:

1-TWO MAGNETS TOGETHER (TOUCHING EACH OTHERS) RENDER A SOLID, SINGLE DIELECTRIC BETWEEN BOTH (NO MORE SEPARATED DIELECTRIC PLANE FOR EACH)

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2-A SMALLER GAP...YOU COULD SEE CLEARLY HOW DIELECTRIC FIELD ON RIGHT STARTS SEPARATING)

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3-A WIDER GAP THAN #2..

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4- A LARGER GAP THAN #3..

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5- A LARGER GAP THAN #4...

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This tests must be done precisely, gaps could be measured separators, or non magnetic bolts/nuts with a flat surface adaptors, etc,etc...
Some magnets when they are not IDENTICAL in strength, the stronger one would be the one which dielectric move less (prevailing one) than weaker one.

Obviously on Tests above, Right Magnet is stronger than Left one.



Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Magnet test

Nice post Ufo, thanks. I used Nd magnets. Maybe I can get pictures later today and post them.

bi

[Ufopolitics]

I find this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5GY...&nohtml5=False from this new thread from this forum (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tex-motor.html) quite useful to the discussion.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5GY2PXd4dc&nohtml5=False[/VIDEO]

UFO don't you think ?

Thanks Nathan,

Yes, indeed it is a very interesting video and Thread. It would be VERY interesting to add a center dual (two part cut at 180º) iron ring mounted on ceramic (non magnetic) bearings to center bar...

However, I am trying NOT to mix Electric Fields with Magnetic Fields together at this time...in order not to bring confusion as I mentioned before...we get to distort the magnetic field with the electric field influence, therefore, we do not see the fields as they really are under no influence from absolutely nothing.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[mikrovolt]

It can be expected that graphic representation is difficult at present level.
It is good to try to isolate a basic magnet in an unmolested state.
The most basic form always having the same charecteristics can serve as an anchor.
We can also try to follow along with electromagnetic space weather.
The models are natural, The integration of concepts. Seeing simularities.
The filamentous tentacles nature of the magnetosphere.

The coronal mass being one entity and the magneto sphere is another.
The approach also trys to isolate the two entities. Even artifacts having both.
So the question: What impact does one have on the other ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc8K5n1PjQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ooqQjE1ro