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    This is a PM I received from Member Partzman here:

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    Hi,

    I have registered to become a member of this forum just so I could post a simple experiment which supports your work along with Ken's, but for some reason the administrator has not approved me at this time. I've attached a link to a simple Utube video which you are welcome to share on your thread if you wish.

    [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2JFDpTE_ls&feature=youtu.be[/VIDEO]

    Regards,
    Partzman

    In the video Partzman conducts a very simple and short experiment that I recommend you guys take a look at.


    Regards


    Ufopolitics
    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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    • Originally posted by bistander View Post
      Hi Ufo,

      I have a couple of comments on your post.

      Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post

      LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE MAIN, OLD FARADAY THEORY STATES THAT:

      ...By the Lines of Force (understood ONLY in ATTRACTION MODE) "cutting" the conductor(s) in a Perpendicular Fashion, this action will Induce a spinning charge within conductor's mass.
      That is not the normal way of stating Faraday's Law.
      I know Bi, it is just "another way" to see it...still you understand it... right?


      Originally posted by bistander View Post
      But the thing that bothers me the most is:

      Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
      understood ONLY in ATTRACTION MODE
      I have never seen such a qualification. Where did that come from?
      Come on Bi, it comes from just a little bit of common sense...when looking back at the History of the Classic Magnetism Model...plus Induction Discovery:

      From the single Bar Magnet, where we always have a NORTH and a SOUTH:

      [IMG][/IMG]

      ...and following one of the first Faraday's experiments with a Bar Magnet, introducing it on an air core coil...:

      [IMG][/IMG]

      and showing a positive deflection from galvanometer needle...all the way to Two Independent Magnets facing each others by their alike poles...

      We will always observe the "Imaginary Lines of Force between NORTH to SOUTH...

      [IMG][/IMG]

      NEVER, EVER...there has been observed the iron filings to "bridge" straight forward from NORTH to NORTH...or from SOUTH to SOUTH....forming the same "alignment" they do between N-S arrangement.

      [IMG][/IMG]

      Originally posted by bistander View Post
      On the subject of the magnetic viewing film, the white area indicates no perpendicular flux passing through the film.
      On that Post I cited the President and EE who makes Magnetic Viewing Film:

      Source:VIEWING FILM FOR DC MAGNETIC FIELDS
      A DISCUSSION
      By: Vincent A. Ardizzone, EE
      Executive President Product Development
      Magne-Rite, Inc.

      A unique process of micro-encapsulation was developed which allows a very thin 2-mil layer of magnetically sensitive slurry to be bonded to a 5-mil sheet of plastic film. In the encapsulation process, colloidal nickel particles suspended in the slurry become engulfed within gelatinous membranes. The slurry is then coated onto the plastic film and allowed to dry. After complete drying, the particles maintain freedom of movement within the gelatinous membranes.

      When a dc magnetic field is applied to the bonded film, the nickel particles congregate in alignment with the flux lines emanating from the dc magnetic source. This mass grouping together of nickel particles causes a darkened appearance to the film directly where the magnetic field is impinging on the film. As a result, an exact two-dimensional image or impression of the magnetic pole or pole pattern (if there are more than one) is produced. This image is easily erased once the film is removed from the magnetic source and the nickel particles are allowed to freely re-disperse within their gelatinous cells. A common bar magnet can be swiped across the film to ensure complete erasure of the previous image, or by reapplying the film to another magnetic source the new image produced will completely replace the old one.

      It should also be pointed out that, due to the small size of the colloidal nickel particles, the film can detect fields as low as only a few gauss and still produce and clear image.

      A particularly useful application of this viewing film is in the identification of changes in magnetic polarity. As an example, if two magnets identical in size and shape were placed adjacent to each other, as shown in figure 1, and one wished to quickly determine if they were identical or opposite in polarity, for instance, placing the film on the magnet's surface would immediately reveal the answer. If the magnets were opposite in polarity, for instance, the film would show the typically darkened areas where each magnetic pole is located but would also clearly reveal a much lighter line where the magnetic fields change polarity. See figure 2. The lighter line is produced because no flux lines are present at the border where magnetic fields change over in polarity and hence the nickel particles in the film do not congregate along that line. If the magnets were of the same polarity the film would show a solid darkened region over the entire area of both magnetic poles with no line of separation.

      Read again what he writes, and that I have bold in red color...verify Link...

      Are You going to argue with that guy above?


      Originally posted by bistander View Post
      There may be (and is, in your example picture) magnetic flux and therefore a magnetic field below the viewing film. So there are magnetic lines of flux running from the North pole of one magnet to the South pole of the other magnet which are parallel to and below the plane of the viewing film. Also, there is a field and lines of flux inside the magnets below the viewing film where the white lines are in the middle of the magnet shapes. These are also parallel to the viewing film.

      To prove there is flux (and field) between the two magnets, turn the film on its side and place it between the magnets. It will be dark because the flux is cutting it perpendicular now.

      Regards,

      bi
      Bistander, use some logical reasoning.

      If there would be straight lines of force between N-S like the ones displayed by iron filings, even with a slight curvature, that will mean all the reflection captured by viewing film should be a completely EVEN SOLID SHADE of either Light or Darker AREA...BUT NEVER, a Three Shades with Exactly a center lighter line dividing both fields.

      The "issue" here (or may I say the "proof")...is that when we look at the same magnets in attraction, set at the same distance from each others... BUT, under a CRT, the Cathode Ray Tube displays EXACTLY, the same Pattern as the Viewing Film does...Watch my previous analysis below:

      [IMG][/IMG]

      The extreme right Image is just the Two prior Layers blended for comparison.

      And the COMPLETE OPPOSITE RESULT, ON BOTH DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES (View Film plus CRT)...take place WHEN WE TEST REPULSE INTERACTION, having exactly the underlined text by me at the above quoted text by the Developers of Viewing Film:

      [IMG][/IMG]

      I know MANY, but I mean many people will get frustrated, and some very upset by this FULL PROOF that only means WE WERE WRONG ALL THIS TIME...By looking at the Magnetic Fields with the ANCIENT AND VERY WRONG METHODOLOGY...the iron filings.

      Plus I understand as well...it is very hard to "digest" all this DATA in one single Thread.


      Regards


      Ufopolitics
      Last edited by Ufopolitics; 12-18-2015, 04:15 AM.
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
        Hi Ernst.
        I was born and raised in the west of the Netherland, right in the middle of between Amsterdam and the Hague and you, North -East?
        I don't know what that has to do with anything.

        Anyways.
        I feel that many people that have reached a master or doctors agree tend to dismiss everything that doesn't 100% confirm with what they learned during their long years of study. They regard themselves as authorities and their authority should not be questioned. History is full of stories of 'authorities' that appeared to be somewhat wrong. 2 examples: At the opening of the thirst railroad in the UK, one guy warned the public not to use it, because the human body would disintegrate at speeds above 60(?) MPH.
        Another guy claimed that it would be impossible that something heavier than air to fly. While writing that, flies and birds were most probably flying around in his garden.

        My point is and I believe that is also Distinti's point, that there are so many flaws in our 'scientific' theories, that you should question everything that is considered to be 'known' and proven. Our physic teacher even used the expression "exemptions that proof the rule"!!

        Presently the way physics and astronomy are treated by the scientific world is not much different from the way the Pope treated science in the middle ages.
        When the earth was still flat and the centre of the universe. And even today, we are still using the 'flat earth' model when constructing houses etc..

        So IMHO we need people that know both the current theories and their flaws.
        To put it differently would you hire Taxconsultant that knows the laws by hard, or one that knows both the laws AND the loopholes??

        So I would like you to use all your insights, logic reasoning and analytic skillsto explain to me what is incorrect with my analysis:



        I wanted to call you 'slickdick' but that name was already taken

        Best regards,
        Ben
        Ok, we have both guessed wrong where the other comes from. It does not have anything to do with the subject at hand but I thought the phrase "pedante kwast" sounds south-ish.
        I was born in Amsterdam and raised in the middle of NL.
        I agree with most of this post of yours. But you know how this forum works, don't you?
        The one who opens the thread leads the discussion, meaning that he says what does and does not belong here. In this case it is UFO and he has made clear that arguments against Ken's theory do not belong here. I am not making that up, please check his post.
        So I must obey that rule. At least in this thread.
        I hope UFO will allow me to answer your question but it is against his rule and therefore against the rules of this forum what you are asking me to do. I will not enter a discussion on this thread, for reasons now explained, but I will answer your question.
        The compass points towards the North, which makes sense otherwise it would be quite useless for navigation.
        So true!
        If you look at how it is constructed, it's basically a small magnet, diamond shaped (rhombic?), with a pivot point in the middle.
        Not even the slightest objections so far.
        In order to point in a S-N direction in a static mode, the sum of resulting FORCES in the East-West direction at both ends need to be equal and in the same direction in order to provide a torque on the needle that is equal = 0!!!
        I assume that "in static mode" means that the compass is at rest. It has stopped rotating and is now pointing N-S or S-N if you wish.
        When an object (any object) is not changing its state of motion (not accelerating, not decelerating and not changing direction) then the sum of all forces in ALL directions is zero.
        If this is not the case the object is experiencing a nett force and will therefore be accelerated in the direction of that force (F=m.a).
        (I am not sure if my interpretation of this text is correct, but I am trying!)
        If there are forces on the far ends of the needle in the same direction (let's say East) and these forces are equal (let's say 1N) then the needle is experiencing a nett force of 2N East. If the needle (and compass) are not moving then the compass must counter this force at the pivot point by a force of 2N West. If that were not the case the needle would fly out of the compass in an East-ward direction. Assuming that both halves of the needle are equal in length, these forces combined create a zero torque, as you wrote.
        In this situation the torque will always be zero no matter in what direction the needle is pointing, therefore the needle is highly unlikely to assume an N-S position.
        These means IMHO that indeed the lines of force are radiating in a East-west direction, and most likely radially from the edges.
        Connect two wires on both points of the needle, and pull each wire with the same force East. Result: the needle will not rotate (torque = 0) but will try to get out of the compass in an East-ward direction.
        Now pull one wire to the North and one wire to the South. Result: as long as the needle is not in an NS direction, there is a non-zero torque. So the needle will rotate until it is in a NS direction. At that point the forces cancel out and there is no more torque, hence no more movement of the needle.
        This means that the lines of force are exactly as the iron filings show you.
        This proves in my view that Distinti's theory about the edge currents is most probably true.
        That particular part of his theory is indeed true; there is a nett resulting current running around in the magnet, as if it were a single layer coil.
        Which means that the currents at both the North- and the South-poles are in the same direction...
        The currents all along the magnet from N to S are equal in direction and strength.
        and that their fields, somewhere in the middle, add up to 0, causing the 'Blochwall'
        Extremely illogical. If that were true a magnet would not attract anything that is present at this point. Try playing with a magnet and a ball as Distinti does and find a point along the side of the magnet where the magnet does not attract the iron ball. Also a compass would not work at the equator if that were true, because there would be no magnetic field.
        Now try to view the magnet as a single layer coil and explain why every winding produces a magnetic field but the winding in the middle does not.

        I hope that satisfies.


        Ernst.

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        • Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
          Hi UFO
          I agree with you on this, I am not sure about the rest of Ken theory (yet)
          I am sorry to be such a slow student but let me explain you why I 'converted':
          This morning I was watching your latest video and this picture again.



          I was quite puzzled and then I realized the following:
          The compass points towards the North, which makes sense otherwise it would be quite useless for navigation.
          If you look at how it is constructed, it's basically a small magnet, diamond shaped (rhombic?), with a pivot point in the middle.
          In order to point in a S-N direction in a static mode, the sum of resulting FORCES in the East-West direction at both ends need to be equal and in the same direction in order to provide a torque on the needle that is equal = 0!!!
          These means IMHO that indeed the lines of force are radiating in a East-west direction, and most likely radially from the edges.
          This proves in my view that Distinti's theory about the edge currents is most probably true. Which means that the currents at both the North- and the South-poles are in the same direction and that their fields, somewhere in the middle, add up to 0, causing the 'Blochwall'

          Now I am really looking forward to your next video.
          Best regards,
          Ben


          P.S Speaking of wind: the wind and the sea cause nice patterns in the sand, which show great similarity to the iron filings patterns. I sure hope Ernst doesn't get lost following these obvious lines of force.
          Hello Ben,

          Sorry I could not answer before...I am swamped with tons of work.

          Your reasoning is quite right...you are getting there...however, there will be a point in time when we will "UNIFY" some theories like Distinti's work...and be able to explain it within the one being proved here by me.

          See, you are right about "no lines of force from N-S in Attraction Mode (including, of course those between a solely magnet).

          Then You are quite right about turning East-West...but not exactly in a straight pattern...and yes, I know you are still not accepting the Vortex Theory...yet...

          Now, when it comes to the very exact center plane of either an Electromagnetic Field or a Permanent Magnet Field...it is just a complex geometry there...as both poles return to gravity center mass point by Centripetal forces...as well as the origination, the Dielectric Field also displaces centripetal forces to that exact center mass point (reason why is called "counterspatial").

          You are getting there friend...we are not in a hurry here...

          Plus I really do not want to "shock" anyone here (yet) by complex machinery demonstrating this Theory works perfectly well...so, let's do it one step at a time...easy...like a saying in Italian... "Piano, Piano vai lontano..."


          Regards


          Ufopolitics
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post

            I know MANY, but I mean many people will get frustrated, and some very upset by this FULL PROOF that only means WE WERE WRONG ALL THIS TIME...By looking at the Magnetic Fields with the ANCIENT AND VERY WRONG METHODOLOGY...the iron filings.

            Plus I understand as well...it is very hard to "digest" all this DATA in one single Thread.
            You said a mouth full that time because not only can we not grasp
            all of the data in one single thread but we have to remove the intentionally
            placed stumbling blocks that make us feel like we have rocks in our heads.

            I mean I catch myself saying "LINES OF FORCE" repeatedly when there are
            no lines of force or any such laws based on "LINES OF FORCE" in reality.

            The blade sitting in the center point gives us some clues that cancellation
            of forces are in play, I mean these are forces in play. Just not line and lines
            of them. It is all contingent on what size and shape piece of iron we place
            near the magnet that determines the response and then let's not forget
            the type. We were not taught this way.

            We were not taught this way, we were not taught this way. We were not................................ so
            we have to work over time to RE-Learn everything about magnets.

            We must learn by experiment.

            When I was a small child I got some big horseshoe magnets and
            I knew that no one on the earth understood what and how magnets
            operates. I knew then, I knew it was an explainable action and reaction
            and everyone I asked all said the same thing about the invisible lines
            coming at the metal like a cartoon ray gun.

            Then they would say (This is the 60's) it's like how the earth keeps people
            from flying out into space because the earth is a big magnet. Then I
            would ask how could this huge magnet hold me down without any iron to
            attract to it? The answer was we all have some iron in our bodies.

            So then why doesn't copper or nickle fly out into space? The answers
            started going to "I DON"T KNOW" to "I DON"T KNOW LEAVE ME ALONE"

            After that you just don't ask those "STUPID QUESTIONS" anymore.

            And these people teaching in schools went to college

            It is for sure we don't understand much about magnetism other than
            "IT WORKS" and it works like "THAT" too

            UFO, KEN, JOHN B. or any number of people have known that we
            learn fables in schools. Keep it up and after enough class sessions
            over time we will begin to change our minds.

            At that point, what will we do with the false information we have
            spent decades coming to know? This is only a beginning
            once we have changed our minds, that is realizing we were wrong.

            We are right about only ONE THING, iron filings act the way they do
            but the other 8 million shapes and types we forgot to explore and recover
            data.
            Last edited by BroMikey; 12-18-2015, 04:45 AM.

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            • Faraday and viewing film

              Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
              I know Bi, it is just "another way" to see it...still you understand it... right?
              Hi Ufo,

              I disagree. It is not another way of "just saying" Faraday's Law. Faraday's Law relates the change in magnetic field to induced voltage and says nothing about the force of attraction or repulsion.

              Any change in the magnetic environment of a coil of wire will cause a voltage (emf) to be "induced" in the coil.
              From: Faraday's Law

              Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
              ...and following one of the first Faraday's experiments with a Bar Magnet, introducing it on an air core coil...:

              and showing a positive deflection from galvanometer needle..
              Much like you demonstrated in your video except you were moving the coil on the magnet, but there was no attraction, was there? If there was, it was not part of that particular experiment.

              And on the subject of the magnetic viewing film, Mr. Ardizzone and I are saying the same thing essentially. No flux lines cutting the film shows as light areas.



              Above is a view of 2 magnets with like poles repelling. Note how the lines of iron filings travel upwards through the red line representing the edge view of the magnetic viewing film. The entire area between the magnets is loaded with flux cutting the film leaving no light area.



              Now is a view of 2 magnets with opposite poles attracting. Note how the iron filings cut through very little if any of the red line in the middle of the space between the magnets. The lack of magnetic flux cutting through the film in the middle area causes the light line down the middle of the viewing film. There is still plenty of flux linking the attracting poles, but it just doesn't travel through the film.

              In fact you demonstrated that there was flux in between the attracting magnets in post #212 video with your magnetic field probe, remember?

              Regards,

              bi
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              • Originally posted by bistander View Post
                Hi Ufo,

                I disagree. It is not another way of "just saying" Faraday's Law. Faraday's Law relates the change in magnetic field to induced voltage and says nothing about the force of attraction or repulsion.

                From: Faraday's Law
                Faraday's Law WAS NOT WRITTEN BY FARADAY!!

                It was written years after...many years, and of course, FOLLOWING a so VERY GENERAL WAY IT "APPLIES" TO ALMOST EVERY MAGNETIC PHENOMENA!

                Same exact "Technique" utilized by LAW FIRMS whenever Filing A PATENT.

                You must read the very Old Books about Faraday's Own words, and his Experiments. Only then you will learn how everything got "twisted"...to date.


                Much like you demonstrated in your video except you were moving the coil on the magnet, but there was no attraction, was there? If there was, it was not part of that particular experiment.
                Of course there was attraction. Attraction between Magnetic Field to Ferromagnetic Material.

                Is called Ferromagnetic Voidance...

                And on the subject of the magnetic viewing film, Mr. Ardizzone and I are saying the same thing essentially. No flux lines cutting the film shows as light areas.



                Above is a view of 2 magnets with like poles repelling. Note how the lines of iron filings travel upwards through the red line representing the edge view of the magnetic viewing film. The entire area between the magnets is loaded with flux cutting the film leaving no light area.



                Now is a view of 2 magnets with opposite poles attracting. Note how the iron filings cut through very little if any of the red line in the middle of the space between the magnets. The lack of magnetic flux cutting through the film in the middle area causes the light line down the middle of the viewing film. There is still plenty of flux linking the attracting poles, but it just doesn't travel through the film.
                Based on your description above...It would never, ever would display like it does on View Film, based on the way you are imagining...it will never be a THIN AND STRAIGHT, WELL DEFINED LINE, BUT A BLENDED, SOFTLY BLENDED BLEMISH.

                Did you ever take 3D Projective Geometry?

                I DID!...And I can make such a VIVID 3D Drawing of exactly what is going on there, animated...as it occurs in reality.

                Not just with a red marker over my image.

                Now, TALK TO ME...Tell me about CRT Screening...tell me how the Electron Beam Gun is deflecting that SAME particular Imaging as Viewing Film?...

                PURE "COINCIDENCE"?......

                In fact you demonstrated that there was flux in between the attracting magnets in post #212 video with your magnetic field probe, remember?

                Regards,

                bi
                , I demonstrated the "supposed way" in order for you guys to understand how it behaves within the "Non Existing Lines of Force"...

                Actually what was taking place there was just a N/S>>N/S>>N/S Chain, where my "probe"/was the N/S in the middle, between both rectangular magnets. You could move that small center magnet(probe) straight through without making any flips.




                Ufopolitics
                Last edited by Ufopolitics; 12-18-2015, 07:06 AM.
                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                • Two theories...

                  [IMG][/IMG]

                  THE CLASSIC THEORY

                  Above the Classic Theory based on Iron Filings...it is simple, anyone has learned it before...even children know about this...WRONG INFO.

                  According to iron filings shaping around magnetized iron by electrification...Flux Flow would run from NORTH to SOUTH SPATIALLY while RETURNING through the Iron Mass...

                  THE REAL THING?

                  When we electrify a Coil, Any Coil, Any Size, Any Gauge, No matter the Turns...it chooses EXACTLY the CENTER PLANE, specifically the GRAVITATIONAL CENTER POINT of the ferromagnetic mass, defined by the coil length.

                  From that Point OUTWARDS, FOLLOWING THE STRAIGHT LINE AS IS THE AXIS OF COIL-CORE IT STARTS TWO SPATIAL SPINS WHICH ROTATES OPPOSITE TO EACH OTHERS, COMPENSATING AN EQUILIBRIUM.

                  The same way we Electrify, as we turn Off, the reverse operation takes place...exactly BOTH VORTEXES RETRACT BACK TO THE ORIGINATING CENTER/POINT.

                  THE SAME WAY AS WE ELECTROMAGNETIZE ANY FERROMAGNETIC MATERIAL/CORE TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT MAGNET...SAME OUTPUT CHARACTERISTICS...EXCEPT, IT IS "STAMPED" PERPETUALLY DUE TO MUCH HIGHER ELECTRIFICATION CURRENTS.

                  Nature draws lines, curves, spirals that way...from center outwards.(<------------o-------------->)

                  We write a line either from left to right...or right to left...never from center to right-left. (0-------------> or <---------------0)


                  Regards


                  Ufopolitics
                  Last edited by Ufopolitics; 12-18-2015, 07:24 AM.
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                  • @Bistander:

                    One thing I wanted to ask you...

                    Why haven't you commented about the test when I insert my "monopolar probe (S/N-N/S)" inside the electrified air core coil...?

                    Explain why does probe flips 90º at center of coil?

                    Didn't you write here once that electromagnets, nor magnets have absolutely nothing in their center...just straight lines of force?

                    As you did not believe in existing Main Domain Walls in them?

                    I would like your opinion on those tests.


                    Ufopolitics
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                      @Bistander:

                      One thing I wanted to ask you...

                      Why haven't you commented about the test when I insert my "monopolar probe (S/N-N/S)" inside the electrified air core coil...?

                      Explain why does probe flips 90º at center of coil?

                      Didn't you write here once that electromagnets, nor magnets have absolutely nothing in their center...just straight lines of force?

                      As you did not believe in existing Main Domain Walls in them?

                      I would like your opinion on those tests.


                      Ufopolitics
                      Hi,

                      I wrote I don't believe there is a main domain wall or dielectric inertial plane or any division of such in the middle of the magnet, PM or EM. And when you moved the S-S sensor it flipped 90º approaching the S end of the EM because it orientated attempting to put the two N poles (in the center of the sensor) towards the S of the EM.

                      I believe there are millions of domain walls and nothing special about the center of the magnet. I think you get hung up too much on magnetic poles. I was used to field direction and flux path. When working with magnetic circuits, like say a toroid core transformer, where's the N and S poles?

                      Speaking of that, you have the N and S reversed in post #248 on your EM. And you make it sound like the EM sends flux out of both ends as long as there is current in the coil.

                      And yes, you make much prettier diagrams than I can. I struggle with graphics, but I do know my geometry.

                      bi

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                      • Originally posted by bistander View Post

                        I don't believe there is a main domain wall or dielectric inertial plane or any division of such in the middle of the magnet, PM or EM.

                        I believe there are millions of domain walls and nothing special about the center of the magnet.
                        How do you figure? You cling to the conventional theories that say
                        that there is a center called a bloch wall. So there has to be something
                        there and we can see many things clearly with the viewer.

                        PM or EM convention theories state there is a center to every magnet.

                        So it looks like you are making your own theories as you go since
                        the presented information does not add up to out dated models.

                        And then you want to jump all over like a kangaroo asking silly
                        questions like "WHAT ABOUT A TOROIDAL TRANSFORMER"? You are
                        acting like a drowning man, grasping at straws.

                        We can discuss the totoidal shape in the future, calm down
                        and stick with a simple bar so you don't confuse everybody.

                        The pictures are clear, conventional is based on iron filings and
                        what might be the way the magnet fields look, God only knows
                        presentation at the college level. Sorry I don't mean to laugh.

                        We are making progress as this is the 21st century and I don't mean
                        the schools, I mean people who think coming up with new data outside
                        the school system because the new data is not welcome there.

                        Am I ringing any bells, guys? The information is piled so high a
                        super computer couldn't crunch it all so you know the schools
                        are not going to take on that job as they are preoccupied with
                        their indoctrination agenda to setup mind control barriers
                        limiting public knowledge.

                        It's all about the big me little you, teacher told ya so or let me put it
                        another way. If the gov run school system admits it was wrong in any
                        way shape or form they would have to humble themselves and ask
                        for forgiveness for "THEIR" spewing of stupidity, poluting the minds
                        of young men and women.

                        Can you imagine that? The condescending upper strata admit
                        "THEY" are not all knowings demi gOds, you're joking right? I am painting
                        a true picture of the highminded attitude on display in the graduates
                        incubated by the top brass. It is almost funny the way the students
                        are trained to feel they have it all down pat.

                        What little we know teaches us to look for a more simplified answer and
                        I don't mean use that retarded contrivance where students are directed
                        to throw out all of the complex data streams in favor of pablo.

                        The highmind is an enemy to intellectual growth, this is the process used
                        to dumb down, I have stated this repeatedly and seems to go right
                        over peoples heads because they think this is my way of calling them stupid.

                        I am not doing that even tho the highmind assumes that I am, can't you
                        see what I am saying here. The highmind lacks many things.

                        Knowledge is worthless without understanding or wisdom.
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                        • not completely

                          Originally posted by Ernst View Post
                          Ok, we have both guessed wrong where the other comes from. It does not have anything to do with the subject at hand but I thought the phrase "pedante kwast" sounds south-ish.
                          Hi Ernst.
                          I initially thought you were from Belgium

                          I assume that "in static mode" means that the compass is at rest. It has stopped rotating and is now pointing N-S or S-N if you wish.
                          When an object (any object) is not changing its state of motion (not accelerating, not decelerating and not changing direction) then the sum of all forces in ALL directions is zero.
                          If this is not the case the object is experiencing a nett force and will therefore be accelerated in the direction of that force (F=m.a).
                          (I am not sure if my interpretation of this text is correct, but I am trying!)
                          If there are forces on the far ends of the needle in the same direction (let's say East) and these forces are equal (let's say 1N) then the needle is experiencing a nett force of 2N East. If the needle (and compass) are not moving then the compass must counter this force at the pivot point by a force of 2N West. If that were not the case the needle would fly out of the compass in an East-ward direction.
                          Correct, if there is no friction between the compass and the surface it's on, it will indeed move to the magnet in an east-west direction. This is what you see in most video's.

                          A small iron ball will not follow the curved classical lines of force, but moves in a straight line.

                          That particular part of his theory is indeed true; there is a nett resulting current running around in the magnet, as if it were a single layer coil.
                          Where do you base this assumption on?
                          If it is based on the assumption that equal charges repel and hence must be equally distributed at the surface of the magnet, then I am afraid this cannot be assumed in the case of a moving charge. The behavior of spinning charge or matter is totally different from their static behavior.

                          As I see it, it behaves as two single layer coils. One coil at each end of the magnet.

                          Extremely illogical. If that were true a magnet would not attract anything that is present at this point. Try playing with a magnet and a ball as Distinti does and find a point along the side of the magnet where the magnet does not attract the iron ball. Also a compass would not work at the equator if that were true, because there would be no magnetic field.
                          Try a vector analysis of my model and you will see it. As the magnetic field force is an inverse square of the distance, it is probably a very line.

                          I am not sure if the earth can be considered as an ideal magnet. The earths magnetic field is notorious for its deviations. In the early days of aviation, there were special magnetic variation maps that helped our aviators to find the right course. It think some of these are still used by survival experts.

                          The one who opens the thread leads the discussion, meaning that he says what does and does not belong here. In this case it is UFO and he has made clear that arguments against Ken's theory do not belong here.
                          I know, but my impression is that UFO appreciates a positive, openminded and respectful discussion. And I agree with him, 'pedantic nay sayers' better start their own thread. They P* me of as well.

                          Best regards,
                          Ben

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                          • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                            ... I can make such a VIVID 3D Drawing of exactly what is going on there, animated...as it occurs in reality.
                            Hi Ufo,

                            I'd be interested in your take on animation. If you get the time, please show us.

                            I did post some interesting animations of FEMM back in this post:
                            Originally posted by bistander View Post
                            I found an interesting graphic here: Magnets in Motion



                            So now click here to see how the fields behave in animation. Magnets in Motion 01


                            Interesting how the FEMM images of field flux look so much like the shape of the iron filings.

                            Regards,

                            bi
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                            • God only knows?

                              Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                              The pictures are clear, conventional is based on iron filings and
                              what might be the way the magnet fields look, God only knows
                              presentation at the college level.
                              What? The students and instructors know. And anyone can find out. Just read a text book. Or, many professors post their lecture notes on-line so they pop up on google all the time. Just look.

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                              • Originally posted by bistander View Post
                                Hi Ufo,

                                I'd be interested in your take on animation. If you get the time, please show us.
                                I have done many 3D Models based on this Theory, animating spinning vortexes to get a common view as it also must match the CRT , View Film, plus Ferrocell images.

                                The Ferrocell is the Highest 3D Definition of the 3 methods, however, it needs special illumination, plus a very dark room...plus top capturing HD cameras.

                                I am in the process of developing a new method to see Magnetic Fields in 3D, in real time from an old back projection TV which have the three RGB electron beam guns, am planning to aim them in the 3D Axis, having the "object" to be screened at the 0,0,0 coordinates or origin (intersection of three rays). Then also observing it through Ferrocell lens.

                                Originally posted by bistander View Post
                                Interesting how the FEMM images of field flux look so much like the shape of the iron filings.

                                Regards,

                                bi
                                But of course it will look exactly like the iron filings...

                                Finite Element Method Magnetics (FEMM) is just a simulator Software which Matrix has been programmed according to the "one and only" screening method Pattern we have been using for 200 years!

                                It would be very weird and strange that it will render Ken's Theory geometry...

                                We could program Lua Language used by FEMM to use the 3D Logarithms to extrude, to revolve, surface and trace curves, etc,etc... based on any magnetic model we code.

                                For example, given below...FEMM makes the following interaction in Repulse Mode:

                                [IMG][/IMG]

                                That is exactly the way Repulsion looks under iron filings...except the program adds the progressing curves to animate interaction frames based on pre-coded 2D displacements.


                                Regards


                                Ufopolitics
                                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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