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  • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Hello Everybody!

    @Mikey: Thanks Bro for bringing this jerk with long hair, "Peter Frampton style" here...

    If anyone here wants to get REALLY CONFUSED about Magnetism Theories...watch this Guy's Concepts about Magnetism Interactions below:

    Regards

    Ufopolitics
    Let me explain. For some reason I saw Ken's youtube channel for
    the first time and he had just made some sit down video's with
    him at a desk. Ken gave out and invitation for a "Rebuttal" for
    his present theories.

    I thought no one cares, right? No one will respond. But wait, I
    looked in the youtube column for video's to the right hand side
    of the page and there was a response for making a "REBUTTAL"

    I figured the guy would at least bring up some of the book
    discussion of Ken's material but nothing very deep was dealt
    with.

    It seems like with KEN giving out this challenge to prove him wrong
    that THEY would send someone that understand his writings. I
    guess not, that's the best mainstream has to contradict KEN.

    I thought your assessment was pretty funny for the best detractor

    "Frampton Comes Alive at the Science Fair"

    That's it, just a mass of conflicting university dogma.

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    • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
      I am VERY GLAD it is just Not me only...viewing all this Theory as the CORRECT AND REAL ONE.
      Ufopolitics
      Sorry UFOpolitics,
      the "WebPage" won't let me give you another Five-Star rating.

      Al

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      • Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
        Hello Ben,

        Unfortunately, as We WILL SOON get to fully understand Magnetism...We'll ALL realize we were deceived BIG TIME...for over 200 years by now.

        Einstein, working hand by hand with Hendrick Lorentz in the beginning of the 1900´s...wiped out any possibilities to understand HOW REAL MAGNETISM WORKS...This Two guys were utilized by the FAT KATZ to Inject the DOGMATIC MODEL which is still taught in every EE School today...

        Einstein Theory of Relativity was just an "Entertainment Show" that ASSISTED by Lorentz Vectorization plus tensoring of Magnetic Fields lead to believe everything upside down and then reversed...unfortunately, no one has ever dared to defy all this non sense theories from a Scientific approach...except Ken Wheeler Book...

        Ken's Theory explains the misconceptions from previous and excellent Theories and work developed by Rawl and Davis Magnetic Model...as Walter Russel's Model as well.

        I have planned exactly, how I will be disbursing all this new data as all this HUGE disinformation will be debunked "iso facto" simultaneously...As I consider non sense to just show clever machines working in a way that defies all the BS shown so far, but NONE of You all, would be able to understand WHY they work like they all do...

        Sorry if it is taking some time to complete...I just wanna do it with very nice and clear dynamics and animations Graphics.


        Regards



        Ufopolitics
        Hi UFO.
        Glad you're alive and kicking.

        My point wrt to mudslinging is that it does't bring anything. IMHO it even blocks the 'open mind' as the mind is focussed on the wrong creativity and may not appreciate what is correct and could be helpful.

        I have big problems understanding Ken's book because of the lack of simple language explaining cause and effect. Add some mudslinging and my brains lock-up.

        For this reason I am so happy you take the time to make these wonderful graphics and videos and do some real experimenting as well. Thanks again for that.

        About Einstein and (some of) the others: they are dead, water under the bridge, past tense, finito.
        If Ken's theory appears to be correct, it will still take decades before it's recognized and has found it's way into the schools. But I am quite sure, that if you can show a way to actually put his theory into something useful. Man, that would be a huge breakthrough.

        Anyway, I can't wait to see your next video.

        Best regards,
        Ben

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        • Originally posted by Ben2503 View Post
          Hi UFO.
          Glad you're alive and kicking.
          Thanks Ben, yes I am...

          My point wrt to mudslinging is that it doesn't bring anything. IMHO it even blocks the 'open mind' as the mind is focused on the wrong creativity and may not appreciate what is correct and could be helpful.
          You are quite right, trying to "drive" both lines (teaching & mudslinging) at the same time could add noise to the main stream of new knowledge.

          I have big problems understanding Ken's book because of the lack of simple language explaining cause and effect. Add some mudslinging and my brains lock-up.
          I agree that Ken utilizes a lot of new conceptual terms that try to compact the new actions-reactions shown...He is trying to drive us completely away from a very wrong Theory established for too long...and that has grown very deep and with very solid roots...However, I find all this new terms as part of a new discovery based on a very Natural Phenomena which is Magnetism.

          Actually Ken's Theory gathers a bunch of previously shown magnetic models plus theories...like Davis Rawls, Walter Russell, Viktor Schauberger, etc,etc...to render a more complete approach to understand the real deal.

          Not a simple job at all.

          For this reason I am so happy you take the time to make these wonderful graphics and videos and do some real experimenting as well. Thanks again for that.
          My pleasure...

          About Einstein and (some of) the others: they are dead, water under the bridge, past tense, finito.
          Yes, they're all dead indeed...however and unfortunately, their theories are still prevailing in our Global Educational System...very conveniently so for the Oil Industry...

          1-If Ken's theory appears to be correct, it will still take decades before it's recognized and has found it's way into the schools.

          2-But I am quite sure, that if you can show a way to actually put his theory into something useful. Man, that would be a huge breakthrough.
          I had to divide your above text in two, since they are both interconnected and dependent one for the other...

          Number 1 is quite correct, it could take decades, if not another Century to reach "Official Schooling System" EXCEPT, if it can be PROVEN TO BE RIGHT...like your number 2 above...

          A huge Catalyzing to RUSH such Theory into recognition IMMEDIATELY...would be to demonstrate with Machines which are completely based on the Magnetic Mechanical Architecture of such new concepts.

          This Machines will radically set Lenz Law in vectors positioning which will never affect the main Generator performances no matter what loads are applied.

          Free wheeling Generators...producing supreme amounts of energy...with minimal or even ZERO Mechanical effort...

          In other words...what we call FREE ENERGY.

          I believe so...

          Anyway, I can't wait to see your next video.

          Best regards,
          Ben
          You will see it soon...

          Regards


          Ufopolitics
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • wouldnt it make sense if you guys are incapable of proving your own theory that one that can use your own words to show an idea itself is the actual real idea and you guys are selling just bull to people?

            like the picture that you think explains a magnet and free energy. your magnet vortex which has no real pictures its your own drawings and you in no way can prove it. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLWjk3Tb4RM/maxresdefault.jpg that deal there. you have no evidence of it. sort of like a oh whats that thing called, oh right, a BLACK HOLE.

            when my theory about this, idea is that its a TRANSMISSION. i showed the video of the gear that does it.

            The transmission model is working. your guys model is NOT. plus the transmission model takes everything you say and sucks it in an dproves it as a transmissio more and more. and more and more.

            You gotta understand what the idea of free energy is before you go trying to tell peple what it is first. we all got to know. the idea of free energy is a MOTOR. concept. not a transmission. Your drawing isnt feasible its not demonstratable and you are making up half of it and it is shown working and can use any of the made up ideas you say cause their half thoughts and put it into the description of the transmission model. you guys dont even kow what yoru talking about.

            first we got to have the idea of free energy. and htat would be a motor. becuase a MOTOR does work. and thats what energy is is work. we agree that energy is work. work being, moving things makign things happening. and we can agree that that, is a MOTOR. so its easy simple to explain and to understand any ideas on, free energy or a magnet or something we dont understand.

            we might not explained how the magnet works but we can relate it to models, and we dont have to explain to understand that it works. free energy would be a motor cause if i could have my car just start going, motor just runs turns on and goes right, i dont add, do anything to it. that would be free energy. free energy has nothing to do with a transmission. i then use my cars motor to power different things off of it. but i have to have power or a motor.

            but a motor always like a car's, needs fuel. until we get free energy right. so its not running like in a circle.

            I have to at least turn the key on the thing to make it go right, so thats not free energy.

            your model you guys make has been modelled already. in that metal wire deal that was shown that time in one of them videos. and it unfolds then what? it locks into itself, it wil not run, in a circle.

            there end of discussion. your idea proven wrong. make that little ideal, your drawing which makes no sense, its false, you cant see or show or prove your theory, and show the transmission like i did with the gears, the part that shows the transmission precisely like where the rubber meets the road, is the part you cant, show or prove.

            there you go. argue with taht one or something.

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            • Originally posted by ldrancer View Post
              wouldnt it make sense if you guys are incapable of proving your own theory that one that can use your own words to show an idea itself is the actual real idea and you guys are selling just bull to people?

              like the picture that you think explains a magnet and free energy. your magnet vortex which has no real pictures its your own drawings and you in no way can prove it. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cLWjk3Tb4RM/maxresdefault.jpg that deal there. you have no evidence of it. sort of like a oh whats that thing called, oh right, a BLACK HOLE.
              Don't act like a retard...
              No one is selling absolutely NADA here.
              This Theory WILL BE ABSOLUTELY AND DEFINITIVELY PROVEN, just seat back and relax...

              Evidence?...Of course:

              A MAGNETIC FIELD IS A NATURAL PHENOMENA, AND LIKE SO, IT HAD TO BE ANALYZED AND STUDIED FROM THE NATURAL APPROACH, BY COMPARISON TO NATURAL MODELS AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE!

              when my theory about this, idea is that its a TRANSMISSION. i showed the video of the gear that does it.

              The transmission model is working. your guys model is NOT. plus the transmission model takes everything you say and sucks it in an dproves it as a transmissio more and more. and more and more.
              [IMG][/IMG]

              Ken Wheeler shows this Model as well, (page 69)from Maxwell's approach of the "Idling Wheel"...except that Dielectric Field is the one Driving from inside out and NOT from outside inwards, that be that "Center Idling Wheel" approach.

              You gotta understand what the idea of free energy is before you go trying to tell peple what it is first. we all got to know. the idea of free energy is a MOTOR. concept. not a transmission. Your drawing isnt feasible its not demonstratable and you are making up half of it and it is shown working and can use any of the made up ideas you say cause their half thoughts and put it into the description of the transmission model. you guys dont even kow what yoru talking about.

              first we got to have the idea of free energy. and htat would be a motor. becuase a MOTOR does work. and thats what energy is is work. we agree that energy is work. work being, moving things makign things happening. and we can agree that that, is a MOTOR. so its easy simple to explain and to understand any ideas on, free energy or a magnet or something we dont understand.

              we might not explained how the magnet works but we can relate it to models, and we dont have to explain to understand that it works. free energy would be a motor cause if i could have my car just start going, motor just runs turns on and goes right, i dont add, do anything to it. that would be free energy. free energy has nothing to do with a transmission. i then use my cars motor to power different things off of it. but i have to have power or a motor.

              but a motor always like a car's, needs fuel. until we get free energy right. so its not running like in a circle.

              I have to at least turn the key on the thing to make it go right, so thats not free energy.
              A Motor is NOT free energy...even though it could release energy while it is running like I have demonstrated in MY ASYMMETRICAL MACHINES...A Motor is a LOAD, A CONSUMABLE OF ENERGY, just like a Light Bulb...

              your model you guys make has been modelled already. in that metal wire deal that was shown that time in one of them videos. and it unfolds then what? it locks into itself, it wil not run, in a circle.

              there end of discussion. your idea proven wrong. make that little ideal, your drawing which makes no sense, its false, you cant see or show or prove your theory, and show the transmission like i did with the gears, the part that shows the transmission precisely like where the rubber meets the road, is the part you cant, show or prove.

              there you go. argue with taht one or something.
              Many ways to prove this Theory, Magnetic Field VORTEXES AND SPIRALS...SAME AS MUST NATURAL PHENOMENA, and YES, just like GALACTIC JETS...QUASARS,etc, same exact thing as a Magnetic Field but at small scale...enjoy images of OUR REALITY OUT THERE...

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]


              And finally I will repeat what I wrote before...so it is "printed" in your small brain.

              A MAGNETIC FIELD IS A NATURAL PHENOMENA, AND LIKE SO, IT HAD TO BE ANALYZED AND STUDIED FROM THE NATURAL APPROACH, BY COMPARISON TO NATURAL MODELS AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE!

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]

              [IMG][/IMG]

              MAGNETIC FIELDS SHOULD HAVE NEVER, EVER, BEEN STUDIED AND ANALYZED BASED ON THE STUPID IRON FILINGS METHODS TO BUILD ALL THE BS EXISTING SO FAR FOR OVER 200 YEARS.

              And finally...an example of FREE ENERGY IS A SPINNING FREE, NO LENZ OPPOSITION, NO MAGNETIC DRAG, NO COGGING ELECTRO-MAGNETIC GENERATOR

              MAGNETIC FIELDS DRIVE ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE THING IN OUR PLANET...AS IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE...IS A FACT, AND WE MUST LOOK AT THE "PICTURE" THIS WAY ONLY!


              Ufopolitics
              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 02-04-2016, 01:40 AM.
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • wrong. first, a motor produces what, energy. to get free energy it has to be produced. you use gas to power a car. the car engine is the motor, that gives you the power. energy, comes from motors. never mind that word that has two meanings, as in motor and motor. i used car motor, really should of said, engine. but it takes a motor to make energy. lets not confuse a word, that means 2 things. that was a normal mistake and you shouldnt take it and use it against me here.

                without a motor your not powering or giving energy to, anything. you cant get free energy without a motor to run it with. a car runs on gas so thats the fuel. and gas isnt, free, but what do we consider the charge for gas? what is free? we have to get from fuel to power, however we get there.

                and all of these vortexes and things you show, are all concepts. vortex is a verb. its what something does. and there are no vortexes but the one on a magnet which is just plain magnetism that we know about. and thats what where trying to figure out. a like for example, a whirlpool, thats just, swirling water. and its in no way free energy. something opened and is letting the water out the other side like in a toilet, and makes a vortex. but you have to make the energy to hold the same amount of water on the other side to get that water to travel over there so you never produced anything free. if it wasnt there to start with you would of had to of dug the hole, to hold the water in, then connected the two places that hold the water together for the water to funnel from one to the other so any energy you wouldof got you lost for making the place to hold the water with. the water would of powered your, free energy thing.

                all those things probably are made by a magnet. where back to where you started again, your not understanding anything or doing anything, yuo keep pointing at a magnet. over and over.

                you drawing a picture and saying thats how it works, does not show how it works. you didnt say how any of those things got there so you didnt explain magnets again.

                nothing you say really says anything.

                .. for example..
                A MAGNETIC FIELD IS A NATURAL PHENOMENA, AND LIKE SO, IT HAD TO BE ANALYZED AND STUDIED FROM THE NATURAL APPROACH, BY COMPARISON TO NATURAL MODELS AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE!
                << this line. for example. a magnetic field is natural so .. what else approach would we take to study it at? any other thing in nature that modeled, itself its OWN self after it, done it naturally. by nature. we can look at the magnet and see this. i mean we dont even need to look at the other thing. just look at the magnet. looking at the other thing as you say is yoru way of studying, has shown NOTHING. we learned nothing and its a waste of time and its a way to sell bullcrap to people. like an idea that you understand magnets cause you seen something else behave in the same way. like i didnt in the first place believe a magnet.

                so since you dont understand and youve not taught anybody anything with any working models besides nature which is no different than a magnet, you dont have a working model out of nature which you didnt model and is no different than that your saying oh that you can explain, you dont understand it, so everything you say is describing, a transmission. and it works in the definition perfectly too. i already linked a movie about a transmissio that fits this picture i linked in the last post i did before the one before this.

                that picutre makes no sense it ends in the middle then goes haywire then for some reason you think it can make a 90 degree and keep going, without stopping. somehow. now go back to my defintion of energy the MOTOR, and like an engine, without its power source, a detonation of gas, it does spin around and around and doesnt stop. with it being afree energy engine, lets just say that, there wouldnt be an explosion right? and the motor would continously spin around and around for us to grab onto and power a, tire or car or something down the road. wheres the continous motion in that model of a transmission you make do a 90 degree, and think it doesnt stop. that model is ridiculous. it is not continous and cant be a motor. iF IFF it was you then could or would apply it to a magnet then say hey look free energy but its not. theres not a owrking model of your diagram. which would be simple to make, if it where real. but it disappears in the middle and you make up some junk, throw it together then say, it works.
                but if it was a working model you could point at it, say a magnet does it, then say it does it without anything else and say its energy and a motor and say it powers it. but it doesnt. your ideas, are transmissions, exmaples of them. nothing else.

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                  • duh act like im dumb and just repeat the same thing I just said aljhoa.

                    WHat you need to explian is why one of them pulls on the other, not show a copy of it. noone cares. but i dont expect and **** you nothing from you but you to copy me again. what you should do is go back and ask for donations on yoru videos some more. because man them people if they can touch a screen and pretend theyve read a book cause someone gave them some money boy their smart arent they.

                    Do NOT respond to me You are stupid do not even insinuate i talk with yur stupid ass. Cause you didnt respond to me you mocked me. another waste of ****ign tjime. a working model IS A TRANSMISSION. does not explain the motor or how it works. It might just be a form of power we havent understood but i dont think thats how it works. just look at it. i dont have to do nothing. so theres no possible way for me to do anything ot stop it to be able to show anything.

                    BUt screw thinking right? go write your retard books and beg for donations online and get dumb monkeys to hit a screen and pretend their smart which then you pretend your smart by copying off of. do not talk to me if yoru not going to respond. you attacked, didnt respond. Stupid place.

                    the point is you dont understand and you show more pictures of things YOU DONT UNDERSTAND and dont even try to crack at what is goign on or working their. your diagram shows nothing, is not a working model.
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                    • Originally posted by ldrancer View Post
                      duh act like im dumb and just repeat the same thing I just said aljhoa.

                      Do NOT respond to me You are stupid do not even insinuate i talk with yur stupid ass. Cause you didnt respond to me you mocked me. another waste of ****ign tjime. a working model IS A TRANSMISSION. does not explain the motor or how it works. It might just be a form of power we havent understood but i dont think thats how it works. just look at it. i dont have to do nothing. so theres no possible way for me to do anything ot stop it to be able to show anything.

                      BUt screw thinking right? go write your retard books and beg for donations online and get dumb monkeys to hit a screen and pretend their smart which then you pretend your smart by copying off of. do not talk to me if yoru not going to respond. you attacked, didnt respond. Stupid place.

                      your diagram shows nothing, is not a working model.





                      Al

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                      • Originally posted by ldrancer View Post
                        duh act like im dumb and just repeat the same thing I just said

                        noone cares.

                        but i dont expect and **** you nothing from you but you to

                        You are stupid do not even insinuate i talk with yur stupid ass.

                        Cause you didnt respond to me you mocked me.

                        another waste of ****ign tjime.

                        BUt screw thinking right?
                        Stupid place.

                        .

                        Dearest ldrancer

                        When people see from day one (This was years ago) that you are
                        a totally irrational person, then they respond accordingly. I don't know
                        why that is

                        But it is the way it is and you are not going to get anymore
                        than you already have. Nothing is what you will get because
                        you have a made up mind.

                        So you just figured that out? Well there maybe be
                        some hope for you in the long run.

                        It sounds like you are frustrated all of the time so you pour
                        high minded hate slurs on your opponents whenever you
                        speak. Spitting mad and ready to strike.

                        Your opponent being those who you disagree with.

                        @ UFO

                        Thanks for the" Super Swirls of Sea Shells" it has taken
                        a new twist on so and so's noodle.

                        Magnetic and or gravitational fields are constantly influencing
                        matter as it grows or evolves into maturity. To bad not all
                        brain matter is non malignant or it would fall into line too.

                        Thanks for the refresher on spin and the many wonderful
                        geometrical patterns connected to living systems. One name comes
                        to mind, Viktor Schauberger


                        Elementry my dear boy Watson Follow Nature.

                        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M81_FRbTLc[/VIDEO]

                        [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItsSYwTSnTY[/VIDEO]
                        Last edited by BroMikey; 02-04-2016, 11:03 PM.

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                        • whatever, you cant draw a picture and make a working model.

                          This is so simple a young kid can understand it. your full of crap.

                          you can draw a picture but you cant make a working model. THERE IS A MODEL but it doesnt circle around. You've made like a knot. or something. but it doesnt work. it still turns and i shown that it turns because its a transmission.

                          And as far as any of you are concerned its nothing more than a transmission. you keep claiming you;ve explianed how a magnet works. i believe that your just wrong. you cant claim a transmission is a free energy device.

                          my model works. Yours doesn't. your drawing is made to work by me. you will not discuss the model or the working one i put.

                          SO you know your full of crap.

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                          • you dont understand magnets put it that way. your drawing is up yoru ass and full of crap. thats the end of the story.

                            you dont explain **** so stfu. you drew something in 2d. its been modeled in 3d. it doesnt circle. its not a motor. a motor makes energy. if its a car engine.. or whatever other kind of motor, they spin around. you cannot turn put something through something then turn it back around the other way without it stopping. you havent any idea what is happening in the middle. you drew make up lines. i showed the model that follows those lines. and does function, but only if split into 2 seperate things.

                            you love stupid forums dont you where noone has the capability to think past 2 seconds of crap. where you can run that mouth where you can get on there and beg for money and pretend your a genius while getting the attention of a bunch of morons with stupid other things.

                            explaining how stupid yyou guys are i deserve money but i dont go around begging for it all day long do I? and you are a hinderance to the world.

                            so unless you can explain it better than me and show it. STFU.

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                            • Originally posted by ldrancer View Post
                              a motor makes energy. STFU.

                              Originally posted by ldrancer View Post
                              transmission is a free energy device. your full of crap
                              You Are Right

                              Al

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                              • Ferrocell

                                After watching some of Ken’s videos showing the Ferrocell demonstrations, which I do find quite interesting…

                                A straight forward question: Has anyone purchased one of these Ferrocells?
                                Available from: Home

                                They are the invention of Timm Vanderelli, (they’re not Ken’s invention).

                                They seem to be a useful tool for the experimenter. There are lots of videos viewing various magnets or lasers etc. But I can’t find any as yet showing the view from small electromagnetic coils.

                                Let alone what a resonant coil may look like through one of these Ferrocells.

                                For around $100 they seem like a good educational toy or piece of test equipment.

                                Any opinions?
                                Last edited by Sputins; 02-10-2016, 04:07 AM.
                                "Doesn't matter how many times you kick the coyote in the head, it's still gonna eat chickens". - EPD

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