ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[Ufopolitics]

Quote.
" A magnetic field is a three dimensional "Entity" Right? "
I would disagree, a magnetic field is at least four dimensional,
if not more.

I agree on that with you...Spatially in the Three Dimensions we are all familiar with...

Counterspatially...well too difficult to digest...is another dimension grid...plus add time and we have more than three dimensions

I was basically referring that Magnetic Fields are NOT a Two(2) Dimensional Entity like it has been treated for 200 plus years.

According to this assumption...only Two Planes intervene in EM Induction...The plane of conductors, plus the B-fields also assumed to be aligned in a flat plane dealing with those wires/Coils/Conductor(s) etc,etc

...and this two planes must be perpendicular...

Keep believing this and "the fall" would be much higher and very painful.


Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

and that guy i mean about the 4th dimension he does have a point, you guys are full of it. it would need an entire another dimension for what you guys say to be even remotely possible, but its all total crap though./
i mean i get it i get it, but u guys answer the discrepencies before continuing with your mouth.

I agree on that with you...Spatially in the Three Dimensions we are all familiar with...

Counterspatially...well too difficult to digest...is another dimension grid...plus add time and we have more than three dimensions

I was basically referring that Magnetic Fields are NOT a Two(2) Dimensional Entity like it has been treated for 200 plus years.

According to this assumption...only Two Planes intervene in EM Induction...The plane of conductors, plus the B-fields also assumed to be aligned in a flat plane dealing with those wires/Coils/Conductor(s) etc,etc

...and this two planes must be perpendicular...

Keep believing this and "the fall" would be much higher and very painful.


Ufopolitics

pull your head out

[Ufopolitics]

entity= what ?

4-d= huh?

vortex? ???

why dont you guys go back to your economy topics it's all fake an you push a censored controlled world. as long as you ( ken wheeler ) keeps getting paid off i mean profit fromit. profit= fiat currency.

nothing im saying is to your guys good. you need to answer the discrepancies in yoru theories before coming up with more unfounded made up bs. if a magnet isnt 3-d then its NOTHING then your guess here is WRONG. there isnt a 4th dimension or anything besides 3 of them.
IF you want to make a comment claiming 4th dimension after MY comment then put down WHAT a 4th dimension is. You're distracting from my reply and not answer the discrepancies in your guys guesses. this is irresponsible, unscientific and you should be banned for disrupting scientifci talk at least im trying to debunk this ****. you just encouraged more ****.

might as well call this forum economy and while you're at it add the rest of the fake science forums to it. this forum is full of fake science ****.

i been listenting to you mfers bs and im not gonna take u mfers ****.

**** you bunch of fake censoring pieces of ****. you godamn dont talk over me thats the same as censorship

Idrancer...

I Too!





I just want everything you wish for me, BUT Multiplied!



Ciao Bambino


Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

Idrancer...

I Too!





I just want everything you wish for me, BUT Multiplied!



Ciao Bambino


Ufopolitics

what? you didnt even read what i said. i said to answer discrepencies before bringing up more of them unfounded and known fake stuff. ? ??? i am only asking things. you cant even follow a simple sentence, stop pretending to know stuff.

[Ufopolitics]

Iron-Magnet Pole Redirection

Hi Ufo,

So like a mono-pole?

Hi Bistander,

Yes!...exactly like a Monopole...yes, I know that sounds an impossible...a taboo, a heressy...OMG! for the Classic Physiscs...

That piece of soft iron is a permanent magnet inasmuch as it has retentivity and will exhibit residual flux after removed from the external magnetic field. It does have a S and N pole after being influenced by the external field and will retain the S and N poles until demagnetized. The magnetic strength of the piece of iron (or its coercivity) is not as great as a piece of permanent magnet material (magnetically hard material), but is present to the degree that the N and S pole can be identified.

Have YOU (not just searched out there...but You) "identified" the Two Poles in that Iron piece?

Just because... I have done that test, many, many times and with different methods:

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ABOVE:JUST THE CYLINDER MAGNET UNDER VIEW FILM

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ABOVE: IRON CYLINDER (LEFT)<<PLASTIC GAP>> CYLINDER MAGNET(RIGHT) UNDER VIEW FILM

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ABOVE: IRON CYLINDER (LEFT)<<>> CYLINDER MAGNET(RIGHT) UNDER VIEW FILM


CRT METHOD:


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ABOVE:JUST THE CYLINDER MAGNET UNDER COLOR CRT

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ABOVE: IRON CYLINDER (LEFT)<<>> CYLINDER MAGNET(RIGHT) UNDER COLOR CRT

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ABOVE: IRON CYLINDER (LEFT)<<>> CYLINDER MAGNET(CENTER)<<>>IRON CYLINDER (RIGHT) UNDER COLOR CRT

Note the displacement of the Bloch Wall, Dielectric Plane towards iron on both methods

Even with the Iron Particles will show the iron extended poles...same results

And of course...you could also do it with a cheap, small compass...and it will never find that second pole on iron.

I think you refer to the claw type rotor poles on the field of automotive style alternator called the Lundell rotor. Yes, these are steel or iron shaped to extend the magnetic circuit through the field coil (excitation) to the air gap across from the armature.

Good, you did the research!...wow, I didn't know the name of its Inventor...am impressed!...really.

The point on that Rotor Design...is that from an Axial Magnetic Flow Coil, it makes it go exactly 90º to Radial Flow Influence at air gap:

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If that were true, the iron piece would be repelled by the N pole on the magnet, but it isn't, it is attracted to it because the end of the iron piece closest to the N pole of the magnet becomes a S pole.

Regards,

bi

I can't believe you are writing the above paragraph...I thought you could do better conclusions Bistander!

A Tornado "attracts" a whole House inside its Vortex...then we could say that the suction end of Tornado is North and the House was South?

So, a House that is North would be repulsed and not sucked in?



It will not repel that North on Iron just because it is an EXTENSION from that same pole, like I wrote previously.'

I used the term "extension" so you could understand it better...there are more complex explanations and terms...

That piece of iron is wrapped with the same Spiral/Vortex from that Magnet's North Pole, same rotation sense...no repulsion.

In order to exist a Repulsion, both facing poles must be spinning at OPPOSITE directions.

Remember that Magnetism is just but ONE SPINNING FORCE...Even though you face one pole to a Mirror and one would be CW while the same magnet other side would be CCW.

You face two alike poles (N-S) you will have same spinning = Attraction

You face Two Like Poles (N-N or S-S) and you will have Opposite spinning = Repulsion

A small spinning motor with a colored shaft disc (indicating visually the spin direction) on each side could give you this answer...when you face it against a mirror...one side would be spinning CW...while the other would be CCW, motor has not changed/reversed its spin.

A SPINNING OBJECT OF ANY VARIETY APPEARS TO BE MOVING CLOCKWISE FROM ONE END...AND COUNTERCLOCKWISE FROM THE OTHER, HOWEVER, THE OBJECT IS MOVING IN ONLY ONE DIRECTION, IT HAS NO CONCEPTS OF POLES OR POLARITY.

ONLY THE IGNORANT HUMANS, SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS HAVE THIS PERCEPTUAL DEFECT

KEN WHEELER/UNCOVERING THE MISSING SECRETS OF MAGNETISM.

That is graphically shown in 3D Animated, Color CAD in the beginning of my Video:

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZhETcDHDRY[/VIDEO]

Hope this helps you...However, because of your previous comments, I have noticed...you have not done your "Homework" studies and careful watching of my videos and previous posts...I have posted all of the above there and here.

Now Bistander, And am telling you, seriously, if you do not study and do your homework...chances are you are not going to pass your final exam(s)...therefore, you will not receive your "Graduation Diploma" on Free Energy!!




Cheers


Ufopolitics

[mikrovolt]

I need to make progress in alternative energy!
The passionate expressions made here incline me to believe that
artifacts expressed are novel and cannot produce the kind of real energy needed.
Using Ken wheeler thread to feed his ego.

Selecting only a few quotes out of context and the conversation goes into defense on
trivial non scientific agenda. U FU Politics going nowhere.
Tesla built machines that produced.

The thread is being lead by UFO continues to trip on artifacts and avoids
making position statements regarding vortex and magnetic flux.
He cannot show practical application because he needs
to pick brains and claim credit. Tweaker parasite gene ass stirring
trouble not able to answer the true context in full post.

Taking what is said trying to marginalize polarizing playing a true colors political card.
Bringing up old artifacts (vortex) about closed loop flux paths equating them to open flux paths.
video showing short strands forming tentacles moving around an aetheric geometry.

UFO's reply that's deformity. I reply showing closed loop deformity and he goes ape shirts on
iron poles closed loop. Goes into "UFO multidimentional redirection" Avoids the comment about
lamenated cores, cannot follow ect ect ect

[Ufopolitics]

I need to make progress in alternative energy!
The passionate expressions made here incline me to believe that
artifacts expressed are novel and cannot produce the kind of real energy needed.

Selective phrases are quoted and the conversation goes into defense on
trivial non scientific agenda. Politics going nowhere.
Tesla built machines that produced. My first DOE contract for alternative energy in 1975.

The thread is being lead by UFO continues to trip on artifacts and avoids
making position statements regarding vortex and magnetic flux.
Wheres the beef ? He cannot show practical application because he wants
to pick brains and claim credit. Tweaker parasite psuedo gene ass stirring
trouble not able to answer the true context in full post.

This is MY THREAD

I will Do what I have to DO whenever I consider it appropriated.

And YES, it is my own POLITICS...that is why it is my last name..

If I wanted credit, I would not be wasting my time here but on the USPTO Office, with my real name on it, making sure no Troll would be doing it.

What You want the beef?

Right now?

Really?

Sorry, but can't do...so you will have to relax and wait.

Please consider your insults for somewhere else. I have not insulted you!

If You like it...then stand by and shut up.

If You do NOT like it, then just vanish into Counterspace...

It is up to you



Ufopolitics

[padova]

Hi,
Prove me wrong. But that piece of soft iron is an extension if it is static only.
If you rotate it a few times around its axis, it will become an ordinary SN magnet.

Otherwise, we would see a free energy devices all around.

regards

[Ufopolitics]

Geometry...

Hi,
Prove me wrong. But that piece of soft iron is an extension if it is static only.
If you rotate it a few times around its axis, it will become an ordinary SN magnet.

Hello Padova,

The fact that you spin Iron Cylinder related to its axis...in the same position as I have shown in all pictures above...would do absolutely NO difference. The same applies for spinning the magnet...or both

It is all related to where that iron cylinder is located... related to the magnet's poles positioning.

You must realize that spinning the cylinder magnet embodiment along its axis will not affect its magnetic field because it is Magnetized Symmetrically along its axis.

Here comes the N Machine from Bruce De Palma as an example.

You spin the Magnet Embodiment, in the same direction that whole Field is turning ...you get very, very low output.

You spin Magnet embodiment opposite to Field direction you get higher output.

To remind that You are collecting from either one of the N-S Poles and your neutral point would be the equator.

Magnetic Field Spinning Direction is always ONE.

If You are facing South against a Mirror it will spin CW

If You are facing North against a Mirror it will be spinning CCW.

This is a Universal/Natural Magnetism Law, it has always existed, and is always the same and always would be consistently true.

On my next video I will show this spinning direction not against a Mirror...but facing a B&W CRT Radial Rastering Line.

It will be very clear.

The N Machine phenomena is just due to the "Cork Screw" Type of EM Induction...very low Voltage though because there is no Time/Space advance between Field and Core/Coils.

As a second Example:

When you get a cylinder magnet, magnetized along its axis and insert it in a hollow coil...this example is all over the net...it was one of the first tests that Faraday did back in 1831.

It was thought that the "Imaginary" field lines of Force will "cut" each coil turn (ring) as it went in, B Field Perpendicular to the Conducting Rings Plane...bla,,bla and bla......right?

Wrong!.

When the cylinder magnet is inserted in the coil its magnetic field will transfer its spin into each coil copper ring gradually as it goes in, since coil is based on sequential rings connected in series...then the EM spin wave (Differential Gradient) would be transferred all the way to the last ring which will contain the sum from all previous turns....then go out to our meter...or galvanometer in those times.

Also an example Cork Screw Induction, except there is a Time/Space variation.

When You pull magnet out of coil it would do the reverse operation...we get a negative output than when going inwards.

Imagine a loosely spinning Wine Cork Screw related to the "T" Handle (it would never pull cork out of bottle though... )...Then try it on a cork...by pushing it against cork it will screw in...and when pulling it out... it will "unscrew" by reversing its spin.

The same exact operation occurs in the Magnet-Field-Coil relation from above example.

Lenz Law is nothing more than Unscrewing Magnetic Field from the Induced Coil.

Otherwise, we would see a free energy devices all around.

regards

We have been using the "Cork Screw" type of EM Induction so far...for over 200 years plus...it works but by screwing in you must screw out...then we get "Lenz Law"...at the same magnitude we are "pushing" Positive Induction...However, there are many, many more ways to Induce an EMF in our Induced Coils...

We will soon...it is just a matter of understanding this basic principles correctly and apply them to work properly.

Completely different of what has being done so far.


Cheers


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

N - s

Have YOU (not just searched out there...but You) "identified" the Two Poles in that Iron piece?

Just because... I have done that test, many, many times and with different methods:

Hi Ufo,

I am going by theory and experience. I see the tests you run with viewing film and CRTs, but those do not really identify magnetic poles. Take a look at the original image.



The soft iron bar will have the magnetic field from the permanent magnet go through it, perhaps not exactly as shown, but the lines of that field will enter the iron piece at one end and exit the iron at its other end. Therefore, by definition, those ends of the iron piece are poles. The end where the lines exit the bar is the North pole and the end where the lines enter the bar is its South pole.



Image copied from: Non destructive-testing-202

This is much the same as when you break a bar magnet in two parts. Each part will have its own pair of poles, a N and S on each piece. In fact, see the image in the reference above showing the steel bar with a crack. The surfaces at the crack are identified as N and S because flux exits and enters those surfaces.

Next subject:

I was basically referring that Magnetic Fields are NOT a Two(2) Dimensional Entity like it has been treated for 200 plus years.

According to this assumption...only Two Planes intervene in EM Induction...The plane of conductors, plus the B-fields also assumed to be aligned in a flat plane dealing with those wires/Coils/Conductor(s) etc,etc

...and this two planes must be perpendicular...

Nowhere that I know in present theory, physics or science states that magnetic fields are two dimensional. I don't know where you get that idea. Concerning induction, as in Faraday's work, "the magnetic flux through the wire loop is proportional to the number of magnetic flux lines that pass through the loop." How could that occur in 2 dimensions? Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farada...w_of_induction

All the vector algebra associated with magnetic fields is in 3 dimensions and time dependent to boot.

...and this two planes must be perpendicular...

There is a contradiction from you. How can 2 planes be perpendicular in 2 dimensional space? But that vector math associated with magnetic theory doesn't require perpendicularity, it only assigns maximum magnitude at 90º for certain relationships.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

No Contradiction at all...

Hi Ufo,

I am going by theory and experience. I see the tests you run with viewing film and CRTs, but those do not really identify magnetic poles. Take a look at the original image.



The soft iron bar will have the magnetic field from the permanent magnet go through it, perhaps not exactly as shown, but the lines of that field will enter the iron piece at one end and exit the iron at its other end. Therefore, by definition, those ends of the iron piece are poles. The end where the lines exit the bar is the North pole and the end where the lines enter the bar is its South pole.



Image copied from: Non destructive-testing-202

This is much the same as when you break a bar magnet in two parts. Each part will have its own pair of poles, a N and S on each piece. In fact, see the image in the reference above showing the steel bar with a crack. The surfaces at the crack are identified as N and S because flux exits and enters those surfaces.

Next subject:



Nowhere that I know in present theory, physics or science states that magnetic fields are two dimensional. I don't know where you get that idea. Concerning induction, as in Faraday's work, "the magnetic flux through the wire loop is proportional to the number of magnetic flux lines that pass through the loop." How could that occur in 2 dimensions? Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farada...w_of_induction

All the vector algebra associated with magnetic fields is in 3 dimensions and time dependent to boot.



There is a contradiction from you. How can 2 planes be perpendicular in 2 dimensional space? But that vector math associated with magnetic theory doesn't require perpendicularity, it only assigns maximum magnitude at 90º for certain relationships.

Regards,

bi

Bistander


The fact of breaking a Magnet and becoming multiple small magnets have nothing to do with the Unidirectional Magnetic Flow established by conventional magnetism.

The Theory on discussion here (Ken Wheeler's), which is Bi Directional between two opposite Poles...will also "fit" this phenomena of shattering into multiple magnets, and it is even more logical since there are Two Forces instead of One Unidirectional acting upon magnets.

What Conventional Theory can not ...absolutely NOT explain...is why does all this shattered small magnets will always try to "Self Fold" Inwards to a minimal reduced space?

On the "Contradiction" that according to you I have...related to Two and Three Dimensions...is simple , and maybe you did not understand what I meant.

I said that Magnetic Fields has been treated/calculated by Vectors which propagates in two dimensions...it has absolutely nothing to do with the Plane where Conductors are located.

In Conventional Theory, the Main method to analyze magnetic field is with the B Field Vector.

You could use a million vectors each calculated separately and have a million planes of two dimensions for each vector...still, we are dealing with One Plane.

Lorentz calculates Magnetism by fragmenting what is naturally One Magnetic Natural Force into several vectors that interact with particle(s) or surfaces points, same thing.

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A Vector -that I know off- is always represented as a straight line...and a straight line exist in only two dimensions, one plane.

Two Vectors, coming out from the same, common point in space could only be drawn in one plane.

You could use several vectors to calculate a particle trajectory, however, each vector would act upon particle as it travels through space with as many different sequential vectors...all vectors drawn on its own two dimensional plane.

When Lorentz Force applies to Magnetic Surfaces we must fragment it in many vectors traveling (very straight) from different points on surface, then add them up.

A Spatial Curve (example: a Vortex, a Spiral), Not used by Lorentz to Calculate Magnetism, could exist in all three dimensions.

Resuming you are judging my "contradiction" by mixing both... the Plane of Conductors plus the B Field Vectors on the Magnetic Field.

So, the only contradiction here is by you mixing both planes.

According to Faraday and the Classic Theory, EM Induction takes place by Intersecting Perpendicularly (and here is understood angle does not need to be an exact 90) Two Planes

1- The B Field Magnetic Plane

2- The Induced (Coils) Plane

...and of course that would take place in 3 Dimensions.


Understand me now?


Cheers


Ufopolitics

[BroMikey]

whats your guys real statement here? are you trying to say that a magnet is, a vortex? or are you trying to prove a vortex? or do you just not use words consistently like, like scientifically so your theory can't be made unfalsifiable.

If you must learn, this is a vortex.

[Ufopolitics]

If you must learn, this is a vortex.

Thanks BroMikey, for illustrating Idrancer about a vortex...



I can hear the cat saying:

That is a Vortex...That is a Vortex...

That is a Vortex...

[BroMikey]

Thanks BroMikey, for illustrating Idrancer about a vortex...

No problem man, you earned my support. I need to keep
you doing the focus on the great job you are doing with
our much needed overhaul in the scientific dept.

Nothing like a cool swirly for our friend to bring him up
to speed. Hard measures for a hard head.

I got it, no problem.

But when you think about the vortex in a stool being
right before your very eyes with every flush, makes me
wonder what people like this have for brains.

You don't get closer to nature than this.

[ldrancer]

they wont asnwer simple questions from me like whats your guys theory? and ignore me and their using ken wheelers fat mouth insults against me to pretend im stupid.

ya know what **** ken. want to seee the 8 msgs to mhim and his only response to me, go to my site. **** his site too. why would I? all i see is him being a fat **** with some money but that dont mean **** that would keep someone in court to keep his continual piece of **** ass attitude he's got, going.

thats the only thing continual here.

****ing hell with it. and besides all that you wont answer my simple questions in this topic becuase everything you claim is been debunked and your on some crack smoking agenda everythign you say right now is total ****. there are a thousand ways to debunk this time old bull****.

I only got interest and was watching for a bit, i never said nothing until he claimed he knew HOW magnets work. hahaa, and if YOU did, you wouldnt need, 0 zero time to answer the question of what does it do that makes it work. or..

I take it simple if i dont understand i relate it to what i do and not carry on, or worry about it. Its a rope, right? if you look at it one way, it goes one way, and the other way it goes, the other way. go look at a rope for yourself. look down it in the way dollard talks about, that energy he says everyone forgets about, ? forgetting what term is, line is what im thinking he uses a guess what rope to explain it. liek if you hold a rope and someone else does and you pull it, instant, 100% energy transfer. everything else is something else.

this bull**** you guys cry on about is a false flag, uh iron filings. yea so what, use what is real, and shutup. your not adding or saying anything. doing anything. this topic sucks.

the only thing i can see that explains kens stupid behaviour is he's been, "handled". either he intentionally ****ing does this or he's dumb as ****. tatooing your whole body up based on a model of A ****ING VORTEX. dirtying it.

haha. so what if you dont know what happens from the north or south pole. you cant see it, so nevermind it. iron filings have nothing to do with this? iron filings, whatever it shows, you can see.

objects are what science deals with, and everything, in a dictionary, is either one of 2 things. an object or a concept. so everything is included in this you cant bail out on some answer.

i dont know **** this topic until you answer any discrepencies. **** answer of wait, no **** you.

you havent got any answers. heres another thing. a figure 8 will end up crashing in the middle sometime.

first off, the infinity symbol, isnt any ****, its a figure 8 track. thats it. and it crashes in the middle. a vortex which was the basis of the concept of the infinity concept, stupid asses, is a 2d model, the vortex is a 3d model of an infinity sign, but you kow anyway they thought of all these things THOUGH at teh same time. i guess vortex was ****ted out first since the magnet was the concept they where going off of.

i dont think magnets have north or souths.

people cannot see depth. or the z axis is what im thinking. in a 3d world, we cannot tell the Z. you move yoru head, tilt it up, or down to see up and down. you look and turn left or right, you look and move forward or backward, up and down you see the up and down.
theres this thing called gravity, which ****s yoru stupid hteory up too, we have to deal with. and it does matter in space as well.
the point is is that we cannot tell up and down since we only tilt our heads. we dont konw what it is. gravity is running on this too. you havent got one ****ing clue what the hell a magnet is doing so shutup. kens.. just ignorant