ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[ldrancer]

and you also claim you can see 3d too. your jsut stupid as crap.
only by HANDILNG things can you tell if there a real object. tell me why you look at a drawing and know whats behind and whats in front?

gonna add. there a tons of optical illusions. so how do you know? you dont, unless you handle the object, you will never really know, if michael jackson was ever real or either care, until you met him. not saying that i did or whatever. either way you have to actually handle something or BE ABLE to for it to count as an object and even start to be, in science

if you guys are going to have a wheeler ass-kissing thread, expect me after the stuff he talked about me to come in and tear you guys up everytime

[bistander]

Vectors

Bistander


The fact of breaking a Magnet and becoming multiple small magnets have nothing to do with the Unidirectional Magnetic Flow established by conventional magnetism.

The Theory on discussion here (Ken Wheeler's), which is Bi Directional between two opposite Poles...will also "fit" this phenomena of shattering into multiple magnets, and it is even more logical since there are Two Forces instead of One Unidirectional acting upon magnets.

What Conventional Theory can not ...absolutely NOT explain...is why does all this shattered small magnets will always try to "Self Fold" Inwards to a minimal reduced space?

That's not right. The pieces of the magnet will be attracted to each other N to S and S to N in a manner completely consistent with conventional theory, ie. force(s) such as to minimize reluctance in the closed flux path(s). Nothing surprising with that behavior.

On the "Contradiction" that according to you I have...related to Two and Three Dimensions...is simple , and maybe you did not understand what I meant.

I said that Magnetic Fields has been treated/calculated by Vectors which propagates in two dimensions...it has absolutely nothing to do with the Plane where Conductors are located.

What? The magnetic field is not an arrow. The arrow is simply a graphical representation (in 2d, like on a piece of paper) of a quantity existing in 3d, real space with width (x), height (y) and depth (z). The length of that arrow represents the magnitude of the vector quantity and the direction of the line of the arrow represents the direction of the vector quantity in 3d like defined by 2 points in 3d space, (x1,y1,z1) and (x2,y2,z2), with the arrow head assigning a polarity (+ or -) to the vector quantity. This quote from the graphic in your post indicates they are talking about 3d and time varying quantities.

Lorentz force F on a charged particle (of charge q) in motion (instantaneous velocity v). The E field and B field vary in space and time.

In Conventional Theory, the Main method to analyze magnetic field is with the B Field Vector.

You could use a million vectors each calculated separately and have a million planes of two dimensions for each vector...still, we are dealing with One Plane.

Lorentz calculates Magnetism by fragmenting what is naturally One Magnetic Natural Force into several vectors that interact with particle(s) or surfaces points, same thing.

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A Vector -that I know off- is always represented as a straight line...and a straight line exist in only two dimensions, one plane.

Two Vectors, coming out from the same, common point in space could only be drawn in one plane.

You could use several vectors to calculate a particle trajectory, however, each vector would act upon particle as it travels through space with as many different sequential vectors...all vectors drawn on its own two dimensional plane.

When Lorentz Force applies to Magnetic Surfaces we must fragment it in many vectors traveling (very straight) from different points on surface, then add them up.

A Spatial Curve (example: a Vortex, a Spiral), Not used by Lorentz to Calculate Magnetism, could exist in all three dimensions.

Resuming you are judging my "contradiction" by mixing both... the Plane of Conductors plus the B Field Vectors on the Magnetic Field.

So, the only contradiction here is by you mixing both planes.

According to Faraday and the Classic Theory, EM Induction takes place by Intersecting Perpendicularly (and here is understood angle does not need to be an exact 90) Two Planes

1- The B Field Magnetic Plane

2- The Induced (Coils) Plane

...and of course that would take place in 3 Dimensions.

Understand me now?

No, I don't understand. First you say conventional theory is stupid because it only applies to 2d. And now you say "...and of course that would take place in 3 Dimensions."

I know it is difficult to relate 3d information on 2d media like paper or a computer screen. But that is what we have to communicate until we start using holograms or sending solid models or real objects.

bi

[aljhoa]

I take it simple if i dont understand i relate it to what i do and not carry on, or worry about it. Its a rope, right? if you look at it one way, it goes one way, and the other way it goes, the other way. go look at a rope for yourself.

a vortex which was the basis of the concept of the infinity concept, stupid asses, is a 2d model, the vortex is a 3d model of an infinity sign, but you kow anyway they thought of all these things THOUGH at teh same time. i guess vortex was ****ted out first since the magnet was the concept they where going off of.

i dont think magnets have north or souths.

you havent got one ****ing clue what the hell a magnet is doing so shutup.

There is neither a South nor a North Pole as regards a magnet.
A magnet is only ‘polarized’ in the true sense that its expulsion from
the magneto-diaelectric sphere necessitates the creation of a circumferentially compressed sphere which is a dumbbell shaped
hourglass of macromagnetic preponderance which turns CCW on the one end ‘south’ and CW on the other end ‘north’.



Al

[Ufopolitics]

There is neither a South nor a North Pole as regards a magnet.
A magnet is only ‘polarized’ in the true sense that its expulsion from
the magneto-diaelectric sphere necessitates the creation of a circumferentially compressed sphere which is a dumbbell shaped
hourglass of macromagnetic preponderance which turns CCW on the one end ‘south’ and CW on the other end ‘north’.



Al

Hi Al,

Thanks,

Now, something to give a bit of analysis and understanding...

The terms CW-CCW are completely "relativistic"...and tend to confusion.

It is dependent on the Observer´s Spatial Positioning related to the spinning object...which could vary from CW to CCW in as fast as 90º of moving such object...while observer (and clock, of course, remains at same position)

Example: The North is CW when magnet is vertically standing up, North Up and magnetized vertically (through cylinder axis)...let's say this is zero degree...so when I move magnet 90º (square angle) it automatically becomes CCW, leaving my clock at same position.

And so on...and on...

So please have this in mind not to be confused with this terms.


I could do a nice Color CAD on the above example...however, I do not think it is necessary.



Regards


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

That's not right. The pieces of the magnet will be attracted to each other N to S and S to N in a manner completely consistent with conventional theory, ie. force(s) such as to minimize reluctance in the closed flux path(s). Nothing surprising with that behavior.



What? The magnetic field is not an arrow. The arrow is simply a graphical representation (in 2d, like on a piece of paper) of a quantity existing in 3d, real space with width (x), height (y) and depth (z). The length of that arrow represents the magnitude of the vector quantity and the direction of the line of the arrow represents the direction of the vector quantity in 3d like defined by 2 points in 3d space, (x1,y1,z1) and (x2,y2,z2), with the arrow head assigning a polarity (+ or -) to the vector quantity. This quote from the graphic in your post indicates they are talking about 3d and time varying quantities.





No, I don't understand. First you say conventional theory is stupid because it only applies to 2d. And now you say "...and of course that would take place in 3 Dimensions."

I know it is difficult to relate 3d information on 2d media like paper or a computer screen. But that is what we have to communicate until we start using holograms or sending solid models or real objects.

bi

Bistander,

It is obvious We both have different views about this scenarios...it is obvious You are not gonna give up, and neither would I...so, I find it non sense to keep going over the same thing here.

I have tons of work to do...as I imagine you also have.

So, I would only mention here some facts about our History on Magnetism and the way we have been analyzing this scenarios.

Lorentz was not the one who discover that a charged particle would "bend" over a Magnetic Field Influence...It was James C Maxwell who did, and later on JJ Thomson did the work with CRT based on Maxwell discovery.

All Lorentz did was to "re-arrange" Magnetism mathematically by using rigid Vectors and Tensors to Calculate magnetic Fields Forces and Influences over the charged particles. Sponsored by G.E (J.P. Morgan and T.A. Edison) Read Tom Bearden research on this subject if you need more specific's.

Lorentz disregarded the Aether.

Lorentz disregarded the Giant Magnetic Curl Calculation from Oliver Heaviside.

Lorentz Force and basic work served Einstein to produce the non proven Relativity Theory.

The Iron Filings Model somehow rendered those Lines of Force in some kind of a "straight fashion" which served as a "proof" to base those Straight Vector's Theories on.

That was it, regardless of a 2D or 3D Field...or Interactions to obtain an EM Induction.

This facts serve me as the basic fundamental errors made in History related to Magnetism Studies, that derives and limit Us all to only one EM Induction Pattern/Matrix.


I would like to leave it here (for now*)... if you please.

*We will, for sure, retake this subject further on.


Thanks much.


Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

they wont asnwer simple questions from me like whats your guys theory? and ignore me and their using ken wheelers fat mouth insults against me to pretend im stupid.

ya know what **** ken. want to seee the 8 msgs to mhim and his only response to me, go to my site. **** his site too. why would I? all i see is him being a fat **** with some money but that dont mean **** that would keep someone in court to keep his continual piece of **** ass attitude he's got, going.

thats the only thing continual here.

****ing hell with it. and besides all that you wont answer my simple questions in this topic becuase everything you claim is been debunked and your on some crack smoking agenda everythign you say right now is total ****. there are a thousand ways to debunk this time old bull****.

I only got interest and was watching for a bit, i never said nothing until he claimed he knew HOW magnets work. hahaa, and if YOU did, you wouldnt need, 0 zero time to answer the question of what does it do that makes it work. or..

I take it simple if i dont understand i relate it to what i do and not carry on, or worry about it. Its a rope, right? if you look at it one way, it goes one way, and the other way it goes, the other way. go look at a rope for yourself. look down it in the way dollard talks about, that energy he says everyone forgets about, ? forgetting what term is, line is what im thinking he uses a guess what rope to explain it. liek if you hold a rope and someone else does and you pull it, instant, 100% energy transfer. everything else is something else.

this bull**** you guys cry on about is a false flag, uh iron filings. yea so what, use what is real, and shutup. your not adding or saying anything. doing anything. this topic sucks.

the only thing i can see that explains kens stupid behaviour is he's been, "handled". either he intentionally ****ing does this or he's dumb as ****. tatooing your whole body up based on a model of A ****ING VORTEX. dirtying it.

haha. so what if you dont know what happens from the north or south pole. you cant see it, so nevermind it. iron filings have nothing to do with this? iron filings, whatever it shows, you can see.

objects are what science deals with, and everything, in a dictionary, is either one of 2 things. an object or a concept. so everything is included in this you cant bail out on some answer.

i dont know **** this topic until you answer any discrepencies. **** answer of wait, no **** you.

you havent got any answers. heres another thing. a figure 8 will end up crashing in the middle sometime.

first off, the infinity symbol, isnt any ****, its a figure 8 track. thats it. and it crashes in the middle. a vortex which was the basis of the concept of the infinity concept, stupid asses, is a 2d model, the vortex is a 3d model of an infinity sign, but you kow anyway they thought of all these things THOUGH at teh same time. i guess vortex was ****ted out first since the magnet was the concept they where going off of.

i dont think magnets have north or souths.

people cannot see depth. or the z axis is what im thinking. in a 3d world, we cannot tell the Z. you move yoru head, tilt it up, or down to see up and down. you look and turn left or right, you look and move forward or backward, up and down you see the up and down.
theres this thing called gravity, which ****s yoru stupid hteory up too, we have to deal with. and it does matter in space as well.
the point is is that we cannot tell up and down since we only tilt our heads. we dont konw what it is. gravity is running on this too. you havent got one ****ing clue what the hell a magnet is doing so shutup. kens.. just ignorant

[ldrancer]

what is yru8 retarded topic about? a magnet is a vortex? or are you trying to prove the concept of a vortex >? please explain all this **** is just that nothing but waste of everybodys time. IM ASKING SO YOU SOUND GOOD AND STUPID SO YOUR LONG BULL**** POSTS END>

[ldrancer]

Oh and who cares if i doulbe or tripel post when you guys wont even bother with simple questions.

Answer it or ill continue to post in your concept thread

[ldrancer]

By the way guys, if y8ou turn capslocks on and just type, itll do all that start of a sentence capitalize, just make sure you end with a period.

Cause who doesnt do that in .. A sen..tence.

[ldrancer]

Head up ass.

Is a vortex a magnet or are you trying to prove a concept of a vortex. cause thats what yuor doing, your not showing how a magnet works.

this is the stupidest forum in the world. well, ok im done here. they cant answer simple questions but make false claims of knowing how a magnet works. state your objective you SCAM artists. scumbags is all you are. If your proving a vortex you wouldnt need to do it, something else would prove it. Thats how it works something else would do it for you. A concept is a MAN MADE thing. ok? ****ing just stupid.

[ldrancer]

This is MY THREAD

I will Do what I have to DO whenever I consider it appropriated.

And YES, it is my own POLITICS...that is why it is my last name..

If I wanted credit, I would not be wasting my time here but on the USPTO Office, with my real name on it, making sure no Troll would be doing it.

What You want the beef?

Right now?

Really?

Sorry, but can't do...so you will have to relax and wait.

Please consider your insults for somewhere else. I have not insulted you!

If You like it...then stand by and shut up.

If You do NOT like it, then just vanish into Counterspace...

It is up to you



Ufopolitics

Spoken like a ****ing communist.

Let me talk about your DUMB TOILET again. that is something going straight from one place to another. you got that? it rotated, but that is NOT of any importance. the action that happened was, it went from the top to the bottom pretty much. the word vortex doesnt have any meaning either since its A CONCEPT. Im confused here is this atopic about black holes? you showed me a center, and think you are like smart. tahts not a vortex, a vortex for the most part is, its just a concept, the idea which DOESNT WORK you guys dont know wtf your talking about. its that metal ball that object that when it sprang open, it locked in the middle. ****ing found it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfDi89Hj0QA its not a workign model, its a concept. anything can lock up in the middle and be a gigantic piece of ****. pay attention to about 48 seconds. thats your piece of **** vortex, it locks up in the middle. thats what i been talking about, and you knew about. NOW THAT EVERYBOYD ELSE CAN SEE IT, are you gonna keep runing your mouth?

[ldrancer]

you guys dont know what work means. if something is a working model. nope.

you wont compare it to a single thing you attack people who ask you. why cause it doesnt even work.\\\

you guys they already done all your work for yu proving something that aint there, is there by black holes. you dont need to talk, their doing all the talking for you. we need no more talking from peons i guess such as you since the high and almighty self named geniuses are doing it.

you guys must believe ken wheeler is a genius. bwhaha thats why you gkeep going on.

only one way to rip this topic up, take their heroes out of the equation.

a black hole proves somethign in the center thats not there is. so shutup guys, just post links to black holes, wait!!! YOU ALREADY DID THAT, i mean dark matter but YOU DID. you are using false science to back your theory up. agaisnt ME.

you guys are straight up scum shut your mouths.

[Iotayodi]

Study the workings of Vortexes and what they produce. Like heat,cold and pressure. They are everywhere.


Space is riddled with giant plasma tornadoes that power shimmering auroras, new observations reveal.
Researchers operating the five spacecraft of NASA’s THEMIS mission reported the discovery today at the European Geosciences Union meeting in Vienna, Austria.
They were measuring how the solar wind, a flow of charged particles from the sun, interacts with Earth’s magnetic field.

On the Earth’s dark side, the solar wind stretches out the field, forming a region known as the magnetotail. The magnetotail is like a rubber band; when it is stretched too far, “eventually it snaps and releases the energy”, says team member Andreas Keiling of the University of California, Berkeley.
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Counter spirals

The sudden energy release creates a pair of counter-spiralling vortices, which THEMIS detected by measuring the speed and direction of the solar wind in the magnetotail. Each one is 70,000 kilometres long and wide enough to envelop the Earth

One vortex in the pair sends particles spiraling along Earth’s magnetic field lines until they hit molecules of the ionosphere 400 km above the surface. The energy released by the collisions creates the auroral glow, like the gas in a neon light.

Charged particles return up through the other vortex, completing the electrical circuit. The vortices appear every three hours or so, and each one channels a current of 100,000 amps into the ionosphere while it is there.

The study of magnetic fields in a magnet is one thing. The study of magnetic fields using electromagnetics/Emf/ is another. They are similar but distinct from each other. Like a house cat versus a Lion. We need to learn how to manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum. Its not an easy task.

[Ufopolitics]

Study the workings of Vortexes and what they produce. Like heat,cold and pressure. They are everywhere.


Space is riddled with giant plasma tornadoes that power shimmering auroras, new observations reveal.
Researchers operating the five spacecraft of NASA’s THEMIS mission reported the discovery today at the European Geosciences Union meeting in Vienna, Austria.
They were measuring how the solar wind, a flow of charged particles from the sun, interacts with Earth’s magnetic field.

On the Earth’s dark side, the solar wind stretches out the field, forming a region known as the magnetotail. The magnetotail is like a rubber band; when it is stretched too far, “eventually it snaps and releases the energy”, says team member Andreas Keiling of the University of California, Berkeley.
.
Counter spirals

The sudden energy release creates a pair of counter-spiralling vortices, which THEMIS detected by measuring the speed and direction of the solar wind in the magnetotail. Each one is 70,000 kilometres long and wide enough to envelop the Earth

One vortex in the pair sends particles spiraling along Earth’s magnetic field lines until they hit molecules of the ionosphere 400 km above the surface. The energy released by the collisions creates the auroral glow, like the gas in a neon light.

Charged particles return up through the other vortex, completing the electrical circuit. The vortices appear every three hours or so, and each one channels a current of 100,000 amps into the ionosphere while it is there.

The study of magnetic fields in a magnet is one thing. The study of magnetic fields using electromagnetics/Emf/ is another. They are similar but distinct from each other. Like a house cat versus a Lion. We need to learn how to manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum. Its not an easy task.

Thanks for this post Iotayodi,

Agree that Electromagnetics is quite different from magnetics...but the difference is quite huge -I believe- in your statement..."a House Cat Vs a Lion"...

The point I see here is that we better start trying to understand and tame House Cats before facing the Lion...the basic structures are about the same.

If We can achieve something different than ever done before with magnets...the chances are we could reproduce it with electromagnets at bigger scales.

Electromagnets have a huge advantage over a permanent magnet...

We can modify or distort the field as we design different cores and coils...we can turn it on or off, pulse it, etc,etc...or we could transfer it from core to core...just like a spirit that can go within and through mass...

The problem is that if we have no idea how it really works...we will be shutting in the dark...and no infrared glasses on...


Regards


Ufopolitics

[ldrancer]

you, have no idea how magnets works is that what yuo just said?

Bromikey hey the stupid picture of the toilet and the cat, didnt you see my analogy of the tornado in 2 2-ilter bottles? are you tellign me i alrady asked, are you telling me i have a vortex in it? is that what your saying? i already asked that and you spewed up some picutre of a toilet. why not answer my question ? so you can scam up people for money more off of kens fame off of some random magnet and talking and only getting people who was interested in it to come around then you talk **** then force them with scare-tactics to listen to you're horse****?