ENLIGHTENED MAGNETISM (The Full Proof of Ken Wheeler's Theories)

[ron48]

UFO
Very interesting discussion between you and bistander I for one hardly comment so please keep up the good work gentlemen. Just ignore the other fool.

[ldrancer]

yea dont respond to me just dont take your resposibility to answer your discrepancies. Go make your spam money since you cant answer questions. Im using only the largest ideas which contain no fear in them which you wont respond to cause YOU will be shown to be the fraud and you will stand alone. Yea ignore me you cant have a little thing like a thing that debunks you bother your mouths.

I was only talking to Ken Wheeler anyway

[ldrancer]

the hat didn't work this will do the job. What a tard.







nobody is listening to your goofy comments

your english is real bad.

shutup godamn jew

nothing will get through to you you are so stupid.

[ldrancer]

UFO
Very interesting discussion between you and bistander I for one hardly comment so please keep up the good work gentlemen. Just ignore the other fool.

I aint no fool you ****face

****ing disgusting ridiculous topic and you wont even answer your discrepancies.

[ldrancer]

the worst part about you guys you take money to keep your disgusting ideas. thats the worse part and you wont answer your discrepancies your subject inconsitency you dont have a theory to start with you use that wheeler guy who is a con artist he has no geniune intelligence i can tell he's fat and cant talk and is quickly agitated.

He is only trying to prove that a vortex is real but instead of him doing it to take the responsibility hes HANDLING you guys.

ENJOY YOUR SLAVERY HOMOS

[BroMikey]

Better let the big boys think it through.

Your horns are sticking out for sure.

You better go back and read the book.

[solitech]

End goal?

Hi UFO,

I apologize if I'm jumping ahead a bit or if your end goal is in a completely different direction; but based on what I've learned so far regarding magnetic vortex geometry and ether flows...are you eventually looking at developing a solid state method for power generation? I don't quite have a grasp on a good motor design as of yet, but it seems like it wouldn't be too hard to create a solid state generator with some creative coil design...

[bistander]

Another reply to Ufo

Bistander,

Your View Film test did not showed magnet's center lines approaching each others. As you also wrote:

That is incorrect. My test (post #246) did show the light lines approach each other as the distance between the magnets decreased.

That means you never get a solid center line between two magnets like I did below?

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That is correct. I did not.

Are you saying I faked this pictures?!...Maybe I photoshop them all?

No. I never said, or implied that. What we are doing here is far from rigorous scientific testing. These are simple demonstrations. So there are many variables which could affect the results. Since the light colored lines on the view film indicate parallel flux, I assume something in my magnets prevents this. Maybe it is that my magnets are not of equal strength. If so, why does that matter? Question for another day.

Maybe Ken Wheeler's pictures in his book...are also Photoshopped?

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Odd how in Ken's frame 2, there is no light colored line in between the magnets as you claim always happens. And how the mid line in magnet A in that frame isn't straight as you claim it always is.

BTW, I conducted tests with magnet, iron bar and compass. I was able to get different results than you did. I need to sort out some photos and will post later.

Simple...it is always a: "Ufo, I was not able to obtain your same results..."

Here once again you misquote me. "was able to get different" is not the same as "not able to obtain". Obviously I conducted the test differently. Better in my opinion.

The size of the Iron does not matter at all...as a matter of fact, a smaller piece of iron would get influenced much stronger than a bigger one.

Your tests were based (MOSTLY) on demonstrating that your magnetized iron, BY ITSELF, without any field influence did not retain the "Monopole Status".

You and I know very well that will never take place...and so many here...However, You proceed to "demonstrate it" with your pictures.

Then asking why does retentivity matter?

I never showed Iron by itself without the Magnetic Field on Video...then why did you do it?

I thought it was important to show that it was in fact actually ferromagnetic soft material. And by my count, I posted 7 test photos, 3 of which showed the magnet. Not the 90% without as you claim.

Your "point" was very simple...to demonstrate the Monopole did not exist in your iron retaining magnetism by it self, no field present...wow!...what a discovery!

Magnetic monopoles do not exist anywhere.

Maybe I am not "poisoned" by the wrong theories, the wrong concepts...as I don't feel I have to be "Loyal" to something or someone.. Maybe because I am so sure ALL of this is fake, false...a Lie, a Scam.

Hmmm. A 200 year scam in all countries of the world. And it works so well. When does a scam become a reality?

Cheers,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Hmmm. A 200 year scam in all countries of the world.

Hello Bistander,

Yes, exactly that, a 200 "plus" year scam in all countries of the world...

Conducted by a "High Rank" or 'Hierarchy" Level or a "Cartel" -whatever you want to call it- from the world Scientific and Economic Society that has no borders, no frontiers...defending one single destiny...OIL.

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Flaws in Classical EM Theory

1. Eliminates the Internal EM Inside the
Scalar Potential.

2. No Definition of Electrical Charge or
of Scalar Potential.

3. Equations Still Assume Material Ether
Per Maxwell (Unchanged).

4. Use of Force Fields in Vacuum is False
(and Known to be So).

5. Treats Charge q as Unitary Instead of
Coupled System q=ø(q)m(q).

6. Confuses Massless Potential Gradients
as Forces (See #3, #4).

7. Does Not Utilize Mass as a Component
of Force (See #23).

8. Erroneously Assumes EM Force Field as
Primary Causes.

9. Topology of EM Model Has Been Substantially
Reduced.

10. Does Not Include Quantum Potential or Action
at a Distance.

11. Does Not Include Superluminal Velocity of Inner
EM Components.

12. Does Not Utilize Extended Near-Field Coulomb
Gauge Effects.

13. Does Not Include EM Generatrix Mechanism
For Time Flow.

14. Does Not Unify Photon and Wave Aspects
(Requires 7-D Model).

15. Does Not Include Electron Spin and Precession
(See #19, #24).

16. Treats EM Energy As Existing in "Chunks,"
Instead of as Flow.

17. Confuses Energy and Energy Collection
(See #16).

18. Discards Half of Every EM Wave in Vacuum
(See #22).

19. Erroneously Uses Transverse Vacuum Wave;
It's Quasi-Longitudinal.

20. Arbitrarily Regauges Maxwell's Equations to
Eliminate Overunity Maxwellian Systems.

21. Omits Phase Conjugate Optics Effects
(Which are the Rule in Internal EM).

22. Does Not Include EM Cause of Newtonian
Reaction Force.

23. Erroneously Assumes Separate Force Acting
on Separate Mass.

24. Confuses Detected Electron Precession Waves
as Proving Transverse EM Waves in Vacuum
(Remnant of Old "EM Fluid" Concept).

25. Due to Error in String Wave, Omits the
Ubiquitous Antiwave.

26. Assumes Equilibrium; Not True Unless Include
Vacuum Interactions.

27. Higher Topology Required, to Model
Electromagnetic Reality.

28. Lorentz surface integration discards giant
Heaviside curled energy transport component.

29. Has nothing at all to say about form of
EM entities in massless space.

30. Eliminates the infolded general relativity using
EM-force as curve agent.

31. Does not include longitudinal EM wave phase
conjugate pairs as time domain oscillations.

32. Does not include EM mechanism that generates
time flow and flow rate.

33. Does not include time-excitation charging
and decay.

34. Does not include time-reversal zones.

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And it works so well.

Do you really think so?

It works so well and we all are still bounded to the stinking and farting engines to run this entire planet?

It works well up to the point of not knowing the reality...Once you know it...then it is disappointing.

When does a scam become a reality?

Cheers,

bi

Really wanna know?

Read the entire Article below...

DELIBERATE DISCARD

Is all there...


Have fun


Ufopolitics

Foot note: All Material Uploaded here is from the Tom Bearden Site

[bistander]

Show me

Do you really think so?

It works so well and we all are still bounded to the stinking and farting engines to run this entire planet?

It works well up to the point of not knowing the reality...Once you know it...then it is disappointing.

Hi Ufo,

We've been discussing electric machinery like motors and generators. These work extremely well. It has nothing to do with your stinking and farting engines.

If your reality is so great, use it to replace or improve those nasty engines. The electrics are doing just fine.

I hear a lot of noise about your scam theory but never see anything tangible. Show me.

Regards,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Showing You...

Hi Ufo,

We've been discussing electric machinery

Bistander...We have not been discussing this matter in a deeper bases at all...just because I did not want to waste the time which I do not have...

motors and generators. These work extremely well.

Extremely well??!!...Hell NO! Of course not, No they Do NOT!

ELECTRIC MOTORS WORK WELL?!!?

Well for what?

Can you replace a simple Weed Eater small, little farter one cylinder engine with absolutely ANY Electric Motor out there and obtain even equal (not to say superior) results?

No we can not, the best of the best electric battery operated weed eaters are a piece of crap. besides needing a super heavy pack of even lithium batteries...and they die before even starting the job!...and I am talking about a "State of the Art" EGO Weed Eater...that cost almost $300.00 USD

I Own one...and still need my ECHO Pulling string BS to start the farter...to finish the job!

That was just speaking of a simple tool, and small...not even getting into anything heavier.

What are electric motors good for?...A Cooling Fan?

Only the ones that require to get plug into a wall AC outlet works more or less ok.

Motors are OK?...and we only have a single Electric Car Manufacturer in the whole USA?, the TESLA...against all the huge corporations like FORD, GM, MOPAR, etc,etc?

Still...some States like North Carolina do not allow the TESLA In??!!

What is this? Fascism against the Electric Car?, funded by the OIL MAFIA CARTELS right in front of our noses?

And then we all allow this BS!!

The list is so huge I will never end...plus I do not have the time.

ELECTRIC GENERATORS WORK WELL??!!

Give me a F****ING brake!

Like I wrote before, the Day I see an Electric Motor Running an Electric Generator...EFFORTLESSLY...then you come back here and tell me they work well

It has nothing to do with your stinking and farting engines.

When the Fukushima Atomic disaster...remember that?...They had the back up Diesel Electric Generators at the plant...and they could not get the pieces of **** Diesel Engines started!!...in order to cool down the reactors melting...The Entire Planet was at risk of an Atomic disaster just because a freaking piece of crap farting stinking diesel...was not able to start up!!

Does that means "Electric Generators works well?!!

Even any "Home Electric Generator" in the whole planet...requires a farting, stinking engine to spin it...we have not been able to survive the ridiculous Lenz Law up to now...

An we are all just doing fine, based on the ridiculous EM Model we have so far?

It only works Excellent and Perfectly well for the OIL Industry.


You could tell that bunch of crap to anyone else out there, except to Me, Myself or I!!!

If your reality is so great, use it to replace or improve those nasty engines. The electrics are doing just fine.

I hear a lot of noise about your scam theory but never see anything tangible. Show me.

Regards,

bi

Before I do just that...I want you to convince yourself (as any other skeptic out there as well) WHY are we all where we are up to this point in time.

Where are the Flying ElectroMagnetic, AntiGravity Vehicles?!!

Where is the perfect electromagnetic ENGINE, not just a simple one axis rotary motor, good for a hair drier?

Where are the REAL COMPARABLE ELECTROMAGNETIC ENGINE to the Farting Engines running and stinking all over this planet??!!

And am writing "ENGINE" not just a simple crappy, rotary single shaft motor...A CLEVER BUILT Multiple Axis Engine with Pressurized Repulsion Chambers...Attraction Torque, Balanced Crankshafts with Weighted Balancers...Generators built in that will replace every single drop of energy spent with three or four times increase with just ONE STROKE...and send excess to a very small bank of tiny batteries...and state of the art cooling and lubrication systems..plus all the required sensors and PROM's computers processors to sync out everything?

That could be reproduced (scaled up) from a tiny...to a huge Engineered Machine...

That could propel a Boat, a Car or a Heavy BOEING 747?...and go as fast as a Turbine Propulsed Jet ?

Where are they?

No where...

Again, that day where all I wrote above exists, then you come back and re-write what you did above...otherwise you will be wasting your time.

Don't talk to me about Engines...I know about every single part on any one of them...referring to the farting stinking pieces of crap!!

Read those Articles above Bistander...they were written by a Retired Colonel from the US Army...and an Electric Engineer called Tom Bearden.

I know somewhere inside of you...you have an open mind...so, please, use it!


Cheers


Ufopolitics

[Ufopolitics]

Hi UFO,

I apologize if I'm jumping ahead a bit or if your end goal is in a completely different direction; but based on what I've learned so far regarding magnetic vortex geometry and ether flows...are you eventually looking at developing a solid state method for power generation? I don't quite have a grasp on a good motor design as of yet, but it seems like it wouldn't be too hard to create a solid state generator with some creative coil design...

Hello Solitech,

Did You read this Thread since its first pages?

I mean, I understand there is a lot of noisy posts...but read this post below from page 3...Your answer is there, but in advance it is a Yes...

ABOUT THIS THREAD


Regards


Ufopolitics

[bistander]

Dream on

Read those Articles above Bistander...they were written by a Retired Colonel from the US Army...and an Electric Engineer called Tom Bearden.

Yes Ufo, you're a dreamer. But all that impossible stuff you describe isn't here now. Is it? Show me.

And I've seen articles about Tom Bearden here and there over the years. He has been easy for me to dismiss as a quack. And I haven't seen anything in the links you post to convince me otherwise. He's a lot of talk but non-existent with actual working machines or any proof. It isn't difficult to find articles not so friendly towards him like this: Thomas E. Bearden - RationalWiki You'll no doubt attribute that to conspiracy. I doubt it but really don't care. He's got nothing that is for real.

The science, engineering and industry of electric power has illuminated the world and facilitated the modern era. Yet all you can do is bad mouth it for not delivering your free lunch. Where would you be without it?

But just leave this talk and go back to your wonder device and proof of Ken's theory. Let's get back on topic. I'd like your take on a couple of mag view film photos I took today. I'll wait until this settles down.

Cheers,

bi

[Ufopolitics]

Yes Ufo, you're a dreamer. But all that impossible stuff you describe isn't here now. Is it? Show me.

And I've seen articles about Tom Bearden here and there over the years. He has been easy for me to dismiss as a quack. And I haven't seen anything in the links you post to convince me otherwise. He's a lot of talk but non-existent with actual working machines or any proof. It isn't difficult to find articles not so friendly towards him like this: Thomas E. Bearden - RationalWiki You'll no doubt attribute that to conspiracy. I doubt it but really don't care. He's got nothing that is for real.

The science, engineering and industry of electric power has illuminated the world and facilitated the modern era. Yet all you can do is bad mouth it for not delivering your free lunch. Where would you be without it?

But just leave this talk and go back to your wonder device and proof of Ken's theory. Let's get back on topic. I'd like your take on a couple of mag view film photos I took today. I'll wait until this settles down.

Cheers,

bi

Bistander,

Some people give Us their thoughts, as they make them into Theories, Books, compilations of work, etc...then other People read them and make them a reality by maybe a very simple Application...trying to just verify it was correct...

Sometimes the Theorist's die and can't see their ideas become alive...lucky the ones who can see them come true.

Hardly there are the two kind of people in one being...very rare according to history...just a few.

But Yes, I am a Dreamer...and so said John Lennon...

Yes, let's this Dream be over for now and let's keep on the "Dream Machine"...

Show me those pic 's...whenever you have a chance...I got tons of Videos and CAD's for all to see still working on them...


Cheers


Ufopolitics

[machinealive]

Hello UFO
It's been a long time since I've read or posted anything on this forum. I was browsing the other day and read your thread here.
I think it is a really good thread. I think idrancer is the most ignorant, mouthpiece I've ever read. Says nothing, except insults, honestly, he hasn't said anything worth reading. I can't believe his ignorance.

I think bi is intelligent, but for some reason, he's feels the need to argue. I would just stop wasting your time and let him open his own thread, prove what he needs.

I think Kens theory is spot on for the most part. I really don't see a lot of difference from what Walter Russell has said.

Great visuals, keep up the good work.

Idrancer, do people a favour, and **** off yourself. Your an idiot.

Thanks.