Radiant spike puts out more than current

[THEminoly]

you got it alman,
all this stuff has been said... so few actually listen and even fewer prevail.
Thanks for posting those.
Kind Regards,
Patrick

In relation to the load, This is from:
Aaron Murakami Mod >to: Mohammad Yaseen • 10 months ago
About the wheeled version:

"Reducing friction helps increase efficiency and COP but very slight. Not sure where to get super conducting wires, but wheel in vacuum could help a small amount.

Actually, low resistance batteries are part of what is necessary. At Bedini's shop about 10 years ago maybe, Peter and John were doing a LOT of tests with 2000 ah 2 volt batteries wired into 2 different 12 volt banks. The impedance of the batteries were so low it was nearly impossible to measure. This is KEY. On one charge test that Peter did, the batteries received a lot more load powering capability than what left the power supply - it was unmistakable and was very high COP. When you have a longitudinal impulse propagating, any impedance greatly reduces the potential energy there... but this large battery bank, which came from a cell phone tower, had low enough impedance to allow the gains to show up.

Also, under these circumstances, the batteries actually do turn into negative resistors. Read this carefully: [url=http://www.icehouse.net/john1/index11.html[/url]...

When polarizing a battery with impulses of nearly pure potential and virtually no current, the battery develops its own internal charging current that did not come from the impulses... and it is not a tradeoff between voltage and current. That battery gets polarized with a high potential difference between its terminals and that polarizes the vacuum source potential around it to come into the battery and causes not only the battery to go into charging mode, but to actually give it a strong charge that is not just a voltage increase, but a load powering capacity increase.

With smaller batteries, Peter and John did thousands of charging/discharging tests - smaller meaning golf cart batteries. As long as the charge/discharge cycles were VERY CONSTANT, the batteries were able to deliver more energy than what left the power supply. Over the weekend when the charge/discharge cycles were not going on, these gains disappeared. There are countless charts that show this very consistent behavior.

Very few people have seen this because most people building these machines are hobbyists and are not setup to have these tests going on day in and day out so 80-95% or so is what they see in battery recovery alone - not including mechanical work from the wheel, which is free."

[erfinder]

As always, nice to see your around and I've been thinking about your words about the spike as I watched Patrick's video. from over 2 years ago..

"The spike.....inductive kickback.....here is where we leave Kansas. To a force which can overcome any impedance....impedance becomes synonymous with conductivity...."

Al

Hey! I'm still here....a lurker.... my words still ringing in your ears...eh?

Have you found the force yet? I got yanked off the stage before I could start describing what I see.....

Patrick isn't using it, no one is as far as I know. Can't use it till you distill it, a process akin to what's implied by "splitting the positive" is necessary. Indirectly JB is starting to discuss such things.....unfortunately, I have yet to see anyone ready to receive and process these new impressions. Oh well....I hope you find it!

Be blessed..


Regards

[THEminoly]

Hey! I'm still here....a lurker.... my words still ringing in your ears...eh?

Have you found the force yet? I got yanked off the stage before I could start describing what I see.....

Patrick isn't using it, no one is as far as I know. Can't use it till you distill it, a process akin to what's implied by "splitting the positive" is necessary. Indirectly JB is starting to discuss such things.....unfortunately, I have yet to see anyone ready to receive and process these new impressions. Oh well....I hope you find it!

Be blessed..


Regards

Anyone else having problems posting or even view this website?
I'm having to use Tor Browser to get here....

anyway... hello erfinder, I'm not surprised I'm not "using it" as I have no idea what you are talking about. My ears are very open however, and am very interested so please share.
Sincere regards,
Patrick

[BroMikey]

Hey! I'm still here....a lurker....

I got yanked off the stage before I could start describing what I see.....

Can't use it till you distill it, a process akin to what's implied by "splitting the positive" ..............................Oh well....I hope you find it!

Be blessed..


Regards

Is there a way to apply your knowledge to Pat's experiment?

So we can get the beginnings of your theory.

Thanks E and you be blessed also Sir.

It seems like this thread could do nicely to get you heard.

[Aaron]

ip address

Anyone else having problems posting or even view this website?
I'm having to use Tor Browser to get here....

anyway... hello erfinder, I'm not surprised I'm not "using it" as I have no idea what you are talking about. My ears are very open however, and am very interested so please share.
Sincere regards,
Patrick

Patrick,

You're having trouble seeing this forum without Tor? If you PM me your IP I can see if it is blocked for some reason.

[erfinder]

Anyone else having problems posting or even view this website?
I'm having to use Tor Browser to get here....

anyway... hello erfinder, I'm not surprised I'm not "using it" as I have no idea what you are talking about. My ears are very open however, and am very interested so please share.
Sincere regards,
Patrick

I'm glad you are open. Open is good, I am not going to go down this road again where I start sharing something I feel passionate about and things gets all weird. Besides, its all speculation anyway, no point discussing a force no one is in the position to use.

With that I have a question for you. You are one of the more dedicated SSG replicators, you have been around for a while, you have many mods under your belt. In my opinion, one of the most important devices presented was the Ferris Wheel. The hub motor is awesome, if you get it.....I don't think anyone does.

JB demonstrates zero cross switching, meaning, the switch is activated when the sine goes to zero. We have never seen the wave that the device generates, however, we are told and shown that when the black dot on the coil and the black dot on the rotor magnet align, the circuit fires, with this information we can speculate as to when he is switching.

• Have you ever tried getting a machine to spin when firing at the zero crossing?

I tried non stop for about a year after the 2010 conference, and couldn't get it to function. I can understand why so many gave up. People throw in the towel too quickly. When I finally got it to work, imagine my surprise when it didn't take off like a bat out of hell as one would expect it should, owing to the fact that you are switching at a point where CEMF is neither rising nor falling..you know....no current limitation. Instead, consumption is lower than when CEMF is limiting the input current....go figure... There is no quadrature relation between rotor and stator fields, so torque is crap, and because of this, one expects high speed operation, but its not....snails are faster....

I can hear the question....what in the hell does this have to do with the subject. In a word....everything.


Regards

[erfinder]

Is there a way to apply your knowledge to Pat's experiment?

So we can get the beginnings of your theory.

Thanks E and you be blessed also Sir.

It seems like this thread could do nicely to get you heard.

Nope....this cannot be applied to what Patrick is doing. It can't be applied to anything that anyone is doing. It was probably premature for me to even mention it.


Regards

[BroMikey]

Nope.... It can't be applied to anything that anyone is doing. It was probably premature for me to even mention it.


Regards

I can hear the question....what in the hell does this have to do with the subject. In a word....everything.


Regards

So does that mean I won't be able to hear you out on your discovery
this year or next year or the year after that? When? I am only asking
it isn't going to be a problem if you can't share it.

But seeing how you offered, I figured someone should take you up
on your offer. But it is probably hard to teach something that is
such a remote concept and then there is the question of your
ability to teach. Tolerance and forgiveness is very important when
you try to teach a large across section of the public because you
may have to endure one smart ash and two dumb bells or who knows
what comment of slander will come your way.

But after the smoke clears and you've grown past all of those different
responses looking at it like they are normal/ it is what it is. Come on
"E" hurry up before I an some others who haven't given up on you decide
to take other projects this time around.

In other words, sooner is better, not the other way around.

If you have a coil and some magnets whipping around in a circuit and
the circuits motor and generate the fields any number of ideas
have been used to collect pumped energy.

It can't be so hard that you are the only one who is operating
these motor/generators in an Over Unity condition, if that in fact
is what you have implied.

I am getting anxious to understand your take on this subject that
has been producing more on the output than the input but better
yet maybe you have time, unlike all of the rest, to teach.

One thing is certain, you won't have any impact on people til you
do what say Don. Smith did, spending untold hours in front of
a group getting their minds conditioned to receive from you.

So in light of these facts, maybe it won't matter if you mention
a line here or a line there about what you feel you have found
because no one can put it all together like that anyway.

Here is what I am seeing, I am seeing many elderly men who
wished they would have shared their stuff right away but instead
waited til they were in they 70's and by the time they get their
point across and someone follows their work, it is game over.

It takes 10 years to move us forward AFTER some new effect
has been discovered and another 20 yrs to perfect it. That ought
to be just about right.

Remember I grew up in Detroit with the Bros........

[erfinder]

So does that mean I won't be able to hear you out on your discovery this year or next year or the year after that? When? I am only asking it isn't going to be a problem if you can't share it.

Your posts are way too long man....

No I will not share my "idea" of the force I mentioned. I am trying to understand it myself, and as such don't have the time nor patients to help you nor anyone else see what I see.

But seeing how you offered, I figured someone should take you up
on your offer. But it is probably hard to teach something that is
such a remote concept and then there is the question of your
ability to teach. Tolerance and forgiveness is very important when
you try to teach a large across section of the public because you
may have to endure one smart ash and two dumb bells or who knows
what comment of slander will come your way.

I didn't make an offer...My job is not to teach anyone anything, its your job to teach yourself, be your own guru.

But after the smoke clears and you've grown past all of those different
responses looking at it like they are normal/ it is what it is. Come on
"E" hurry up before I an some others who haven't given up on you decide
to take other projects this time around. In other words, sooner is better, not the other way around.

I recommend you and the few you speak for should give up. I know you wont find what you are looking for in those other projects, but by all means try!

If you have a coil and some magnets whipping around in a circuit and
the circuits motor and generate the fields any number of ideas
have been used to collect pumped energy.

Stop....just stop, you have no idea....

It can't be so hard that you are the only one who is operating
these motor/generators in an Over Unity condition, if that in fact
is what you have implied.

I am getting anxious to understand your take on this subject that
has been producing more on the output than the input but better
yet maybe you have time, unlike all of the rest, to teach.

One thing is certain, you won't have any impact on people til you
do what say Don. Smith did, spending untold hours in front of
a group getting their minds conditioned to receive from you.

So in light of these facts, maybe it won't matter if you mention
a line here or a line there about what you feel you have found
because no one can put it all together like that anyway.

Not interested....

Here is what I am seeing, I am seeing many elderly men who
wished they would have shared their stuff right away but instead
waited til they were in they 70's and by the time they get their
point across and someone follows their work, it is game over.

It takes 10 years to move us forward AFTER some new effect
has been discovered and another 20 yrs to perfect it. That ought
to be just about right.

Remember I grew up in Detroit with the Bros........

I mean you no disrespect, like you I call it like I see it. I am curious, do you think before you post? I value every statement I put into the public domain. Folk know you by your work, and see you through your comments. If your posts are a testament of your knowing, and a representation of the individual you would like others to experience ........then one word sums it up for me,

....damn.....

Regards

[BroMikey]

My post are not as long as you make when you are trying to
sound like you have the answers.

Hey! ......................my words still ringing in your ears...eh?

Have you found the force yet? I got yanked off the stage before I could start describing what I see.....

no one is as far as I know. Can't use it till you distill it,

So you want me to feel sorry for you?

Fair enough then I will leave you alone and each time you suggest
that you have something and try to string everyone along like
you might have the secret answer we will all be sure you are not sure.

Fair enough, I didn't realize that, my apologies. I made the mistake
of misinterpreting you thinking once again you might have something to
share, other than that attitude you always bring out.

It is a chip on your shoulder. This is my opinion and I will never address
you again because I feel that you have made me out to be a liar.

You are the one who has suggested that you know the answers
not me. Also I will warn those who might fall into this trap with
you as I did from the first day I came on these forums.

You are the same now as you were then.

I don't trust anything you say and if you were the last man
on earth with the answer I needed I know I wouldn't get any
help from you.

This is my personal observation and the general consensus of
many others who you have belittled, making any question out to
be some sort of issue. Like I said I feel that you have dealt
dishonestly with more than just me.

I apologize for any delay in discussion of another mans thread
that I feel is a deliberate invasion here, so until "E" is no longer
posting his garbage attitude I will no longer be making any posts
where he posts. Oh yeah and you run around blessing people
then stab them in the back.

Of course you would never do that.

Very dishonest SIR. Very few people trust you enough to speak
with you without some sort of stink being stirred up, why is that "E"?

Cut the the shiny gold tooth/show boat big me and little you
routine and get on with it boy. Like I said you won't ever hear from
me again.

Your posts are way too long man....

No I will not share my "idea"

I know you wont find what you are looking for in those other projects, but by all means try!

Stop....just stop, you have no idea....

I am curious, do you think before you post?

Folk know you by your work, and see you through your comments. If your posts are a testament of your knowing, and a representation of the individual you would like others to experience ........then one word sums it up for me,

....damn.....

[erfinder]

I will never address you again because I feel that you have made me out to be a liar.

I don't trust anything you say and if you were the last man on earth with the answer I needed I know I wouldn't get any help from you.

I will no longer be making any posts where he posts.

you won't ever hear from me again

[Bob Smith]

I went to Minoly's earlier video that explains some of the basics behind the video at the beginning of this thread. "The Spike":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKUbVAMFZqw

I find both of these videos to be important pieces of work.
Minoly starts off the above video "The Spike" by saying:

"...The three things I want to talk about in relation to the Spike are: How to create it, how to harvest it, and how to use it."

and at the end,

"... on the forum, let's get into how to create it, how to harvest it, and how to use it."

He shows that the spike produced from discharging a charged cap thru a diode into an inductor has greater amplitude peak to peak than when discharged thru a FWBR. There's some serious energy to be harvested here, but we have to look at new ways of setting up our coils to capture it (in my opinion).

Something from JB that I keep coming back to in my thoughts:

Originally Posted by John_Bedini View Post
...At a different point in time I will discuss what the coil is and how quantum mechanics plays an important part in all of this and how you get the extra energy out of the system. I did write a paper for University of Edinburgh along with Dave Clemons that explained the way the coil works in the system as an energy pump and how the SSG in attraction mode works. This is why I said, the Back EMF is always lower than the battery voltage. If you look at the coil in space it can be viewed with vectors all pointing in but not coupled to form energy. As the coil is pulsed compression and decompression takes place these vectors get sucked in through the Bloch Wall while it is in compression mode forming magnetic poles, North and South. This was never released to the public as it would drive everybody nuts. The Engineers at the school answered me with; we never looked at it this way. But the analyses were correct and explained why some machines work better in different areas of this God forsaken planet. Yes Gravity plays an important part in all of this. It’s only a matter of time when you will tap that Gravity wave for energy as that is where my experiments have led me in my work. I know you will read this many times to understand what I have just said and you all know the meaning of this if you do it. If we take this further you now have discovered the answer to the TPU. Some say that the Shaman resonance is responsible for this but the energy is driven by gravity that permeates everything throughout space it’s just a matter how it’s taped for energy. Solid state devices detect this wave if arranged correctly and then the TPU becomes not complicated anymore with windings and high frequency’s oscillators that is what powered Tesla’s car, the box with many vacuum tubes, so again the term Free Energy is wrong as you must put some form of energy in to start the process of conversion and hope you get more out.
Just remember that the energy cannot be destroyed it can only be converted into another form, for example the last version of the SSG...
John Bedini

Source: http://www.energeticforum.com/266282-post3336.html

Erfinder, please keep posting. I've followed your work and always find your reflections on harvesting CEMF a light in the darkness of the reigning electrical thought.

My sense here is that topology key in capturing all that this spike, above and below the zero voltage line, has to offer.
Bob

[ren]

Hi theMinoly,

great video. Loved it. Can I ask how the capacitor is configured in regards to the secondary coil? Im assuming its a diode off the collector and not a bridge rectifier. Is the cap in parallel with the coil?

Erfinder, its good to see you here again

Regards


Ren

[Bob Smith]

Can't use it till you distill it, a process akin to what's implied by "splitting the positive" is necessary. Indirectly JB is starting to discuss such things.....unfortunately, I have yet to see anyone ready to receive and process these new impressions. Oh well....I hope you find it!

Be blessed..


Regards

Like a bifilar winding with the beginnings connected and the ends shorted through the load?
Bob

[erfinder]

Like a bifilar winding with the beginnings connected and the ends shorted through the load?
Bob

Bifilar with the ends shorted is not what I am suggesting. We already have the distillation process, however, the geometry of these system keeps us from being able to appreciate what we have, and what we already know.


Regards