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More "pulse" testing from TinMan
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL6uBgDoVaY
from discussion here Rotating Magnetic Field's and Inductors.
also to note Woopy is sharing some experiments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7S_...ature=youtu.be
from here
Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED)
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ChetLast edited by RAMSET; 12-19-2015, 03:21 PM.If you want to Change the world
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MRA magnet core polarization.
Here's a description of the MRA magnet polarization by Joel McLain: The magnet core is polarized "Diametically", side to side; Not "axially", end to end:
"The magnetic orientation is across the thickness of the magnetic therefore cannot be described as a bar magnet which has it's magnetic orientation along the long axis. By using a magnet which has the flux across the thickness and the windings are wound around the center of the long axis we have a coil which is wound with half of the winding turn in a "N" field and the other half of the turn in a "S" field".
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Originally posted by erfinder View Post
Even though my retrofit was successful, not yet yielding a self runner, I consider myself successful in the sense that I was comprehending the mechanism.
Effectively this turns a pulse motor into a two phase machine, when properly configured so as to take advantage of the second phase, the discharge phase.
Almost 6 years ago, we were given a self running machine people.
Unicorn poop you say......F****ing idiots!
Regards
You're calling us idiots because we haven't thought of funneling the spike back into auxiliary coils? Pfffft! The idea has been around a long time, just making a self-runner is the elusive thing. It must be a great feeling to think you are the smartest kid in the room, but I think I'll take a pass and be the idiot.
The only thing new I see here is a video (i've not seen before) where Bedini says "it is", and you saying, "I haven't".
We weren't given a self runner six years ago, we were given the idea of a self runner. Bedini is smart enough to do it and nice enough to share but clearly there hasn't been enough put out there for anyone else to do it....at least no one has shown they have.
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Originally posted by boguslaw View PostIf you look at MRA schematic , do you see something strange ?
There's really nothing to it! All the transducer does is boost the voltage from the low power oscillator to the primary. Minoly's flyback spike probably boosts the low power oscillator voltage even higher! What is it about the schematic that caught your attention?
The oscillator frequency range listed on the schematic is 20-40Khz, while the resonant frequency of the ferrite magnet is 180Khz. The harmonic frequencies are on a scale of 3,6 and 9. That lower range would deliver 1/6. Perhaps this is what you're referring to?
Quote from McLain and Wootan:
"You must have three octaves of separation between the magnet resonant frequency and the signal supplied to the piezo".
They claim a {COP>3-4} for the MRA.Last edited by Allen Burgess; 07-20-2017, 02:17 PM.
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Kind of a crack up on that other forum. Many things I talk about in the videos and the few posts I’ve made over there is most everything about the direction they have been heading MOREOVER it’s everything John Bedini has been saying for years. They hate him, and are unknowingly proving many of the important concepts he has shown us over the years. I’m not talking about the “main” direction they think they are heading; I’m talking about some of the little concepts they go over along the way.
Now let’s think about how we can get the spike at the beginning of the pulse AND at the end of the pulse. What if we can make the primary coil sing with very little current just as we are making the secondary coil sing, and still get the secondary coil to sing as well. This vid is one way I get the spike at the beginning of the pulse… I don’t explain it in the vid, and I’m not going to make anyone guess about it, the answer is the CAP.
[VIDEO]https://youtu.be/KKUbVAMFZqw?t=10m51s[/VIDEO]
Aaron, I sent you my IP address last week, both sites EF and ESF are still blocking me. It’s very cumbersome for me to continue reading and posting via Tor Browser as it is very slow and continually logs me off. These are the only two websites in the whole world that I know of that I cannot get to.
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Originally posted by Allen Burgess View Post@boguslaw,
There's really nothing to it! All the transducer does is boost the voltage from the low power oscillator to the primary. Minoly's flyback spike probably boosts the low power oscillator voltage even higher! What is it about the schematic that caught your attention?
The oscillator frequency range listed on the schematic is 20-40Khz, while the resonant frequency of the ferrite magnet is 180Khz. The harmonic frequencies are on a scale of 3,6 and 9. That lower range would deliver 1/6. Perhaps this is what you're referring to?
Quote from McLain and Wootan:
"You must have three octaves of separation between the magnet resonant frequency and the signal supplied to the piezo".
They claim a {COP>3-4} for the MRA.
Please, can you draw this schematic using any tool, the way you see it ? We then could compare.
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There's a helpful, newer overview of the MRA here:
http://www.panaceatech.org/Magnetic%...0Amplifier.pdf
A lot of articles on rexresearch.com as well
Edit: http://www.rexresearch.com/mra/2mra.htm
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@Bob Smith,
Thanks for the Hyperlink!
@Minoly,
I believe simply placing a "Piezo Transducer" where the 1N4007 diode's located off the transistor collector and attaching the wire from the collector to the correct pole side of the "Piezo Chip" and the other side to the correct pole of one of the batteries would make the transducer resonate from the SS SSG oscillator flyback. Naturally, the wire travels on to the end of the run coil. Just a simple test.
This very simple modification would complete the entire input portion of the MRA: The 32Khz vibrating "Piezo Transducer" would pass the full oscillating A.C. sine wave to the magnet core primary; It would simultaneously act as a capacitor for the LC tank, also; Boost power and block any reverse current from returning to the transistor, eliminating the need for a Diac. A solid "Threefold" advantage! Bob Smith's PDF has a list of transducer suppliers toward the end of the document. The output portion of the MRA simply ties in between the backside of the "Piezo Chip" aand the battery pole, consisting of the diametric magnet core primary, output secondary, full bridge rectifier and smoother cap. Neo magnets have a resonating frequency too just like ferrite. All you need to do is tune the primary oscillation untill the magnets audibly ring, and; Voila!
@boguslaw,
Drawing a new schematic is too hard for me. It wouldn't look any different anyway.Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-20-2015, 08:46 PM.
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new build from Luc
here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7yf_J3dNNM
being investigated in his thread here
Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED)If you want to Change the world
BE that change !!
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I'm hoping this doesn't cause a lot of controversy, I was pretty excited by the original post on this thread, but got to thinking. If I've got my physics correct, the magnetic field strength of a coil is a function of current (not voltage). Is it possible that the first coil has a higher voltage and lower current and the output coil with the capacitor added has a low voltage, high current? This would still allow a greater magnetic field on the output, but wouldn't necessarily mean the circuit is putting out more power than input. Any thoughts on how to prove this one way or another?
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Phi winding.
Two examples of the PHI (1:1.618) relationship between the primary and secondary magnet core windings used in the MRA:
"The PHI ratio between the two windings: Example: If they had 200 turns of 18ga. magnet wires on the primary, then they would wind, 200 X 1.618 or 324 turns on the secondary using 22 ga. on the longer winding".
"Norm wound 100 turns of #26 stranded wires on the primary then wound (overlaid) 162 turns of #30 stranded for a secondary which gave me a PHI (1:1.618) Ratio".Last edited by Allen Burgess; 12-20-2015, 11:40 PM.
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