Radiant spike puts out more than current

[THEminoly]

Allen,
are you synchro1 from OU?
so in the first post there is some mention of self acceleration due to reed switch. but I'm on page 15/37 now and all I read are posts from TIN and MI going back and forth with their failed opamp coil sensing switched "Bedini Motor" I remember watching those vids when he first posted them. It's a very insulting read. If interested in a complicated method to switch a simple coil, it's a read, once you get through the insults...


there is one post on page 10 that starts talking about a trifler, and energy being directed back to the 3rd winding, however, I'm fairly tired of the thread so far. They are mostly ignoring your posts and very dismissive. they do go into grave detail when they are answering eachother... Maybe you can post the snippets you think are relevant so readers here do not have to slog through the slime...
Thanks

@Minoly,

This was a good thread I started at OU forum. The MHOP got invented on it. Look at where the Reed switch is positioned on the coil lip in the picture of my motor below; The thread begins to examine the effect of triggering the normally open Reed switch with the diametric rotor magnet, then switching it off practically instantly when the opposite magnetic field from the energized coil forcibly re-opens the Reed contacts, not the spring action of the metal: This severly limits the "on" time of the switch!

Self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner.

[jettis]

JB says don't use neos... they cause Eddy Currents... Is that a hint? So how are Eddy Currents a bad thing in Patricks first video on this thread or the SG system? Erfinder stated to use neos in Energy Science Forums Wind Generation thread. So I have been seriously looking at neos as of late... Also in Ron Coles notes it says you cannot use neos in a conventional motor as they are too strong. I ask again is the SG or any pulse motor a conventional motor?

Has anyone seen the videos that demonstrate and aluminum disc placed upon and inductor steel core... What do the Eddy Currents introduced into aluminum disc do to the disc when the inductor is subject to a capacitive discharge of fairly high value?

Patrick try your Lego test bed with some neos and compare the results vs the ceramic magnet and post the results.

Acceleration of an aluminum disc by an electromagnetic pulse - YouTube

Dave Wing

Why can't we use neos in our systems? Why can't we use neos in our systems? - YouTube

Dave Wing

[RAMSET]

Investigating 276 %

itsu And Verpies are getting a big number .
here

Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED).

Of Course TinMan, GotoLuc , Woopy And others have been investigating also

respectfully

Chet K

[erfinder]

Hi Allen,
yeah I produced the acceleration effect years ago as well - on video even. That was when Romero was "heavy" on the scene. I do not think Romero is using it the way erfinder is suggesting, however, it is relevant here because he has written out some very concrete methods so people are not "shooting in the dark".
Patrick

I think everyone had their go at the acceleration effect. Most of those experiments were modeled after the disclosures of Thane Heines, or modeled after the Kromrey. We all know that those demonstrations the size of the generator had no direct relation to its output. The Thane Heins replications were always low output demonstrations. Most of those replications revealed the exact same weakness in the concept, their inability to generate respectable amounts of energy. Part of the issue was the extremely high inductive reactance. The Kromrey is not relying on the same acceleration mechanism, its coils are low inductance, and low resistance, however, like Thane Heins machines, it too has a low output.

I too conducted these experiments with acceleration and failed to produce a machine which delivered a respectable output. The concept of acceleration under short needs its own thread. In trying to understand the differences and commonalities between these two very different approaches, I found a way to combine the strengths of both methods. This resulted in a more effective method for producing the phenomena, but more important than the phenomena, is the ability to produce a respectable output via accelerating mechanism. In my case, generating motors, in other words, to generate is to produce a motoring force in the direction of rotation. This is accomplished though the proper phasing of motor and generator circuits, loose coupling, transformer action, and the use of proper rotor field geometry to excite the motor and generator circuits.

With that Patrick, as you suggest, Romero and I are not on the same sheet. My opinion, we must consider moving away from the idea that acceleration is to be accomplished using high inductance windings and high frequencies. I demonstrated that the effect can be accomplished using low inductance and low resistance, and I think one or two others may have been able to get similar results. When getting acceleration with low inductance systems, impedance matching becomes paramount, if not, the system produces drag.


Regards

[Allen Burgess]

Big number 276% reduced to 27%.

itsu And Verpies are getting a big number .
here

Sharing ideas on how to make a more efficent motor using Flyback (MODERATED).

Of Course TinMan, GotoLuc , Woopy And others have been investigating also

respectfully

Chet K

@Ramset,

Sorry to rain on your parade!

Quote from Itsu:

"Ok, found the error, the C2 capacitor is 1uF, not 10uF as i mentioned before, i mixed up with some 10uF caps i also had on order but not yet received :-[ Sorry about that.

It measures 1002.4nF when i rechecked and screwed up on the decimal point". "Yes i am sure, but i think 27% is more in line with what to expect".

[Allen Burgess]

Synchro.

Allen,
are you synchro1 from OU?
so in the first post there is some mention of self acceleration due to reed switch. but I'm on page 15/37 now and all I read are posts from TIN and MI going back and forth with their failed opamp coil sensing switched "Bedini Motor" I remember watching those vids when he first posted them. It's a very insulting read. If interested in a complicated method to switch a simple coil, it's a read, once you get through the insults...


there is one post on page 10 that starts talking about a trifler, and energy being directed back to the 3rd winding, however, I'm fairly tired of the thread so far. They are mostly ignoring your posts and very dismissive. they do go into grave detail when they are answering eachother... Maybe you can post the snippets you think are relevant so readers here do not have to slog through the slime...
Thanks

@Minoly,

I was Synchro here at Energetic forum first before I over scolded Bruce TPU for running voltage and amperage from two wires into a rectifier and trying to use Ohm's law to calculate the power.

Those "Trolls" definitely "Burglarized" the acceleration thread. Maybe Erfinder's correct in suggesting we open a new thread to discuss the acceleration effect.

You understand how I got the Reed switch to flutter and operate way over it's rated switching speed right?

[erfinder]

@Erfinder,

Sorry to rain on your parade!

Quote from Itsu:

"Ok, found the error, the C2 capacitor is 1uF, not 10uF as i mentioned before, i mixed up with some 10uF caps i also had on order but not yet received :-[ Sorry about that.

It measures 1002.4nF when i rechecked and screwed up on the decimal point".

UH.....what's that got to do with me?

[erfinder]

@Minoly,

I was Synchro here at Energetic forum first untill I over scolded Bruce TPU for running voltage and amperage from two wires into a rectifier and trying to use Ohm's law to calculate the power. Those "Trolls" definitely "Burglarized" the acceleration thread. Maybe Erfinder's correct in suggesting we open a new thread to discuss the acceleration effect.

You understand how I got the Reed switch to flutter and operate way over it's rated switching speed right?

Acceleration under load does deserve its own thread, however, it is related to the subject. Your job should you choose to accept it, is find the relation it has the subject being discussed, and then provide a supporting demonstration.


Regards

[Allen Burgess]

Apology.

UH.....what's that got to do with me?

@Erfinder,

Sorry, I wrongly addressed that, I corrected it to @Ramset.

[Allen Burgess]

Self acceleration.

Acceleration under load does deserve its own thread, however, it is related to the subject. Your job should you choose to accept it, is find the relation it has the subject being discussed, and then provide a supporting demonstration.


Regards

@Erfinder,

The rotor increased speed linearly to around 25k rpm, then accelerated in a split second to 50k, doubling it's speed almost instantaneously! I imagine that it involved a resonant harmonic. The 1/4" O.D. 1/8" I.D. precision ceramic bearings necessary for these high rotor speeds have since tripled in price since my original tests. It's important to understand how the positioning of the Reed switch on the end of the power coil causes an oscillation of the metal contacts between the PM rotor field and the electromagnetic pole produced by the current in the power coil. The rated top switching speed for the Reed switch is far below the oscillation rate.

[erfinder]

@Erfinder,

The rotor increased speed linearly to around 25k rpm, then accelerated in a split second to 50k, doubling it's speed almost instantaneously! I imagine that it involved a resonant harmonic. The 1/4" O.D. 1/8" I.D. precision ceramic bearings necessary for these high rotor speeds have since tripled in price since my original tests. It's important to understand how the positioning of the Reed switch on the end of the power coil causes an oscillation of the metal contacts between the PM rotor field and the electromagnetic pole produced by the current in the power coil. The rated top switching speed for the Reed switch is far below the oscillation rate.

Gotcha....now, how does it relate to the subject of the spike? I see the relation...do you? If so, explain it best you can.


Regards

[Allen Burgess]

Backspike.

Gotcha....now, how does it relate to the subject of the spike? I see the relation...do you? If so, explain it best you can.


Regards

@Erfinder,

I would very much like to hear more from you about it. My analog milli-amp meter needle was resting solidly on the peg while the diametric magnet rotor raced at hyper velocity. The 12 volt Reed switch was simply in series with a 12 volt 6 amp hour battery. Just a series connected bifilar 28 ga 1:1 thread spool coil, a 12 volt Reed switch and a 12 volt battery. Nothing more! How can we account for the flyback?

[erfinder]

@Erfinder,

I would very much like to hear more from you about it. My analog milli-amp meter needle was resting solidly on the peg while the diametric magnet rotor raced at hyper velocity. The 12 volt Reed switch was simply in series with a 12 volt 6 amp hour battery. Just a series connected bifilar 28 ga 1:1 thread spool coil, a 12 volt Reed switch and a 12 volt battery. Nothing more! How can we account for the flyback?

Check your PM.

[THEminoly]

In case anyone is wondering, I personally did not PM with erfinder. I hold no animosity or judgment toward anyone who does. I personally am not a big believer in this type of communication on these forums no matter what there is/isn’t to gain. I’m a big believer in sharing and giving credit where credit is due. I also do not judge anyone who believes otherwise… I thought I should mention this for other like minded people rather than leave that “Matzah Ball” hanging out there.

[erfinder]

In case anyone is wondering, I personally did not PM with erfinder. I hold no animosity or judgment toward anyone who does. I personally am not a big believer in this type of communication on these forums no matter what there is/isn’t to gain. I’m a big believer in sharing and giving credit where credit is due. I also do not judge anyone who believes otherwise… I thought I should mention this for other like minded people rather than leave that “Matzah Ball” hanging out there.

Dude....you people can think what you want about me....I asked Allen to take his request offline so that I don't come across as the guy who hijacked your thread...This is your show...this is how the bull**** starts....if it makes you judgmental ****s feel better ask him to post the private message.