The Path to a real Free Energy Device.

[djarno]

Topic is retared.

If you assume patenting is impossible, which I assume, you're simply left with one option.
Industrial level hemp growing. Reinvest in expanding, incase of raids pablo escobar style.

You need more passion.

[OrionLightShip]

ewizard

Your post is a great example of underestimating those that oppose such efforts.

But if using Ghostmail helps you sleep at night, by all means, nitey nite.

You could have just stated your opinion about the PTB and Ghostmail without any personal reference....right?

you are going back on ignore....click

[OrionLightShip]

ewizard

Your post is a great example of underestimating those that oppose such efforts.

But if using Ghostmail helps you sleep at night, by all means, nitey nite.

Exactly, we are dealing with adolescent thinkers when people make
opposing comments to what Turion has stated. We need to release
the information in multiple locations at once to be free from retaliation.


Stick with us Wiz we will keep in one piece.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about BM.

It's like you just use DavedE's post as an excuse to post again and you don't even know what is going on.

You quote DavidE and say "Exactly"....what really?

Where does EWizard say ANYTHING in opposition to Turion?
And then you end with a condescending "stick with us Wiz" statement?

And then you turn around with a brown nosing post for Turion. It's just babbling nonsense.

Am I crazy? Did I get this wrong? If so then I apologize. If not, then I have to say I'm calling for a Ignore BM Pledge. Join me if you have grown weary of the insanity of it all.

I hereby pledge that I am immediately going to UserCP and placing BM on ignore. I further pledge that I will never, never, never, ever, never never ever so much as take a peek....not ever again for any reason or I will ask Matt to drive to Asheville and fricking shoot me in the head twice to make sure I am unable to click on view post again so help me Toucan, god of fruit loops.

[Matthew Jones]

I hereby pledge that I am immediately going to UserCP and placing BM on ignore. I further pledge that I will never, never, never, ever, never never ever so much as take a peek....not ever again for any reason or I will ask Matt to drive to Asheville and fricking shoot me in the head twice to make sure I am unable to click on view post again so help me Toucan, god of fruit loops.

And brother I love you so I will. Mercy Killing that is.

All should add the Bowl Movement to the thee "Ignore list" or else be damned to stupidity and absurdness.

I'll PM you Orion.

Matt

[ewizard]

ewizard

Your post is a great example of underestimating those that oppose such efforts.

But if using Ghostmail helps you sleep at night, by all means, nitey nite.

Do you have any evidence that Ghostmail is insecure? Have you even looked at it? It is certainly better than gmail and most other unencrypted mail services. What is your level of computer, network and Internet security expertise? Mine includes well over 30 years in the field both professionally and as a hobby and white hat hacker. There are other services I could mention that go more under the radar but they are more involved and I doubt many people would want to go to that trouble. How would you suggest people share info?

OrionLightShip, LOL My built in brain filter works for me most of the time - it just turns me to

[DavidE]

OrionLightShip

Encrypted e-mail is 100% private.

Choosing to be a vegetarian will assure you a long life.

The earth is flat because I see no proof otherwise.


Any can have a belief without regard for the larger truth.
This thread is about managing release of a device that would likely negate the value of all fossil fuels.

Trillions of dollars at stake, worldwide political instability, economic employment mayhem - all the result of introducing such a disruptive technology. I don't think many here understand the true gravity of the situation.

And because a few posters here don't conform to a style that pleases you, you lobby for the IGNORE function? If you can't handle the diversity maybe you should host your own forum and vet people to your liking.

What Turion is saying is not impossible, but to escape the box, you must first see the box. In the meantime... educating yourself to the boundaries of the real energetic world... will get the ball rolling.

[Ernst]

Ghostmail?

On secure communication....
If you look at the SSL protocol, you can create keys up to 4K. If you are not using MS-ware then you could use such keys with email. A 4K-bit RSA key can not be decrypted with all computer power in the world combined within 4 billion years, so that should be pretty save.
Unfortunately.... it is not.
If you look at the protocol itself then the following happens:
- Using the 4K RSA key the sending and receiving party agree on a temporary 256 bit key.
- Next, this 256 bit key is used for this communication.
- This temporary key is destroyed after the communication.
The problem is that a 256 bit key can be decrypted within minutes on a powerful desktop.

Secure communication is possible only if you do the encrypting/decrypting by yourself.
I have made a program that does so using a 1Mb JPEG image as key. So what you do is:
- browse the i-net and find a picture >1Mb with plenty of details/colours
- download this image
- use it to encrypt your file
- send the encrypted file or put it on i-net
- text the location of the key file to the receiver
The receiver then
- downloads the key image file
- downloads the encrypted file
- decrypts the file
My program also removes all recognizable things form the jpeg file and uses only the contents of the colour/pixel records for encryption.
If anyone is interested I can post the source code here (standard c).
The encryption method used is very simple, yet very effective.


Ernst.

[DavidE]

ewizard

As I said before if it works for you, and you believe your information is secure, don't pay any attention to me.

But the opposition to your quest has resources beyond your capacity to comprehend. And maybe you will have to learn the hard way.

Did you know that every human emits a unique marker frequency? Can you account for every fraction of a second of your location in time? Are you as vigilant about these secrets while you sleep?

I don't know you and you don't know me. But it would be in both our interest to be serious regarding this endeavor that we are discussing.

In fact, disclosing anything in a public forum just grows your intel intent file. And in this country it just gives HS one more reason to spend more tax dollars to study you as a potential threat.

I can see that this thread will likely devolve into a myriad of obfuscation tactics as the disinformation programs run. I will withdraw from additional post on this thread, so my participation does not cause additional thread blur.

Rock and Roll David Bowling...

[wayne.ct]

Hey, Dave!

Of course you can do all this and still fall on your face. Perhaps you are not the salesman public speaker that you think you are and you get a little confused by all the objections and arguments that come your way! O well, it was fun while it lasted.

Hey, Dave,

I was the first person to post a reply in your thread, and I think I was making a valid point.

This was your response, a.k.a. reaction:

Are you proud of yourself for having said that? Is anybody else? Just curious why you took the time to contribute absolutely NOTHING to the cause. And what could be the reason for that I wonder?

Actually, I don't think the word "proud" describes my feelings on the matter. I think I was making a valid point, and I stand by my statement. It is absolutely not my fault that you took my comment personally. I was addressing the issues in your original first post. You can do EVERYTHING you mentioned in your first post and you can do it perfectly and still fail. What is so hard to understand about that? To fall on your face is to say you did what you thought was best and it still failed. I even gave an example of how that might work.

To explain further, you need to have a well thought out plan and carefully consider all the contingencies. The fact of the matter is that I have read a lot of your posts and I think I know you well enough to say you are capable of having a well thought out plan and are able to see the different sides of an issue and how things can go wrong. I have no problem accepting that you are a capable person. Still, it is true, that we all can make mistakes and we are stronger together than if we are divided.

I think I am adding to the cause by participating in this forum on top of what all I do on my own to experiment and build things. I certainly don't need to get a put down when I try to add to a discussion. I make a comment and go away for four days and all I see in this thread when I return is a bunch of bickering? Actually, I see quite a few positive comments. It is probably about 70:30 bickering vs. constructive comments. Wow! I have to admit you all have a knack for kicking up a cloud of dust. By and large, I enjoy reading the posts here. I sincerely wish everyone here gets to eventually share in the successful invention of a revolutionary energy device.

[ewizard]

ewizard

As I said before if it works for you, and you believe your information is secure, don't pay any attention to me.

But the opposition to your quest has resources beyond your capacity to comprehend. And maybe you will have to learn the hard way.

Did you know that every human emits a unique marker frequency? Can you account for every fraction of a second of your location in time? Are you as vigilant about these secrets while you sleep?

I don't know you and you don't know me. But it would be in both our interest to be serious regarding this endeavor that we are discussing.

In fact, disclosing anything in a public forum just grows your intel intent file. And in this country it just gives HS one more reason to spend more tax dollars to study you as a potential threat.

I can see that this thread will likely devolve into a myriad of obfuscation tactics as the disinformation programs run. I will withdraw from additional post on this thread, so my participation does not cause additional thread blur.

Rock and Roll David Bowling...

Ernst, I'd be interested in that - maybe PM me a link to it. Although I do believe Veracrypt can do all that and then some - it can use a long password plus a keyfile such as a jpeg. I'd also suggest not using a picture from the Internet but rather taking your own digital picture as part of a key file in addition to a password. However the weak link in that scenario is still having to text someone the location of the file or send it to them and if your texting or email is being monitored then you have given away your keyfile so anyone interested can decrypt your info. And in that case I believe Ghostmail would be more secure.

DavidE, No you don't know me and I don't know you. I have largely given up on free energy research myself but on occasion I will jump in to suggest something that might help out when I can. But it sounds to me like you are trying to scare people here into believing there is no way to securely share information. If that is not your intent then do tell - PM me to avoid further off topic discussion here what you know of that you think I cannot comprehend. It seems more like you just want to insult people here with vague references to your 'high knowledge' that is so far over our heads. Knowing my IQ I doubt it is above my comprehension but it is certainly possible it is something I am not aware of. I'm all ears

One more note for you. I don't use Ghostmail and haven't used anything to secure my info as I have nothing that needs securing. I just know about these things because it was my profession and hobby. And as far as "learning anything the hard way" I would have to be of some interest to someone for them to focus on me and I know that I am not of interest to anyone or I would not freely use some of the trigger words here that I have used in this forum. I have no free energy secrets and I am not involved at all in politics or religion or any illegal activities. As a Ham radio guy I support my local emergency net and stay as far from trouble as possible.

I also read about some things on CNN after recent terror attacks that discussed what they are using on cell phones for secure communication. The question is whether the info being given in mainstream news was to direct people to use those Apps because they have a backdoor or whether the info really is secure.

[ewizard]

I have just one more thing to say as I've seen a lot of familiar and friendly people in this thread. I hope you can excuse the
slight diversion. And this is also for those who I may not agree with.

Merry Christmas to All


And to All Free Light

[Dog-One]

On secure communication....

Just placing this on the table...

All this elaborate encryption is a fool's security. I can most assure you there is code running right now on your computer that has access to everything you see on your screen and type on your keyboard.

You need to simply acquire the guts to say what you mean and mean what you say; in plaintext is just fine. If you can't do that, all the rest is worthless. No one is going to get rich here, so get over it. If we work smartly, there's still a slim chance we might save our asses.

[Matthew Jones]

Just placing this on the table...

All this elaborate encryption is a fool's security. I can most assure you there is code running right now on your computer that has access to everything you see on your screen and type on your keyboard.

You need to simply acquire the guts to say what you mean and mean what you say; in plaintext is just fine. If you can't do that, all the rest is worthless. No one is going to get rich here, so get over it. If we work smartly, there's still a slim chance we might save our asses.

I don't know what the hell your talking about, I am already rich as hell. I'm like triple fudge brownie ice cream, a little is good, to much and you'll be sick for days. RICH BABY!!! LOL

Matt

[Dog-One]

I don't know what the hell your talking about, I am already rich as hell. I'm like triple fudge brownie ice cream, a little is good, to much and you'll be sick for days. RICH BABY!!! LOL

Matt

What I'm getting at is there is no sense in trying to hide what we are after and how we go about achieving it. Some seem to think we can't make any progress because the boogie man will find out and wreck our lives. THEY are doing that anyway, whether we flip the economic system on its head or not. Others still seem to think there is money to be made holding on to precious knowledge and technology, which will do little good in a destroyed world.

I don't know what the right answer is, but it certainly isn't anything we have already tried and failed at. Seems to me the group collaboration method is likely the best method as long as these groups follow though and pass on their knowledge to others and keep the progress moving forward.

[CANGAS]

This is an amazing forum! As soon as a person tries to start an intelligent thread the disinformation agents jump right in to try and stop it with their silly babble. It should be obvious (but probably isn't) that CANNED GAS, BIG MOUTH, and UFLOP are only here to disrupt this thread. I wonder why? Maybe Dave was actually posting some good information the disinformation agents don't want out there.

Please ignore them Dave and continue with your ideas and thoughts.

LOL!

"CANNED GAS"

I haven't seen such brilliant wit since my high school days over 50 years ago.

CANGAS is Sagnac spelled backward for encryption. He proved Special Relativity to be a lying POS almost before the ink was dry on SR. He is a personal hero.


CANGAS