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  • #16
    Also the input isn't connected to the output frictionally..... This is a major advantage.

    I bet with Matt's pulse motor and electronics the pendulum with the motor would use no power but provide massive repulsion leverage.

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    • #17
      With the passive magnetic bearings this thing would only have the one way clutch bearings needing servicing apart from the alternator bearings.

      The other advantage is the device can be scaled to provide direct power or used to store power.



      Happy New Year!!!!!

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      • #18
        How big do you need the magnetic bearings to be. I just got done designing a small set for another project, let look at your needs.

        Matt

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        • #19
          Great for so many of you hardcore experimenters and replicators to chime in!

          I think we could have a living energy source using 200kg. I'm guessing 1-3kw on tap.

          If this assembly was levitated using a neodymium arrangement that would change the game completely!

          Reducing that friction to zero would be sight to see with this thing levering a big alternator using pendulum power!!

          Best regards,

          Paul

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          • #20
            The bar I've got is 30mm diameter and made out of a very high grade steel.

            The frame 50mm x 50mm box section with a 6mm wall.
            Last edited by soundiceuk; 12-30-2015, 08:02 PM.

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            • #21
              Just wanted to post this over here as well as the other thread its intended for.

              Mag Bearings

              https://youtu.be/L2Ha2buhLjs

              If you can calculate the weight of the mechanism and possibly come up with an idea of how the mechanism will get Jarred around we can design a bearing that will hold up to your machine. I'll post this one again once the motor is running.

              I was also wondering how format "YT" for embedding the videos into the thread. It didn't work for me when I used it.

              Cheers
              Matt

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              • #22
                Ah...click on embed under the video and copy the code over to the standard link button

                that also worked in preview but not post....I'm at a loss

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                • #23
                  Adding a YouTube link can be done by typing open square bracket YouTube closed square bracket.

                  Then the YouTube link.

                  Then open square bracket, backslash, YouTube and then closed square bracket.

                  If the prototype in the video ran for 4 minutes then with a set of your bearings it would run long enough to get any investment needed to take this as far as it can go.

                  Have you got the specs and drawings for your design and any idea what it will currently do.

                  One of my suppliers has been badgering SKN about there active magnetic bearings but they don't want to communicate any prices to me. Really weird...

                  Passive magnetic bearings have far greater appeal.

                  Have you got a calculation to levitate a particular axle weight?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by soundiceuk View Post

                    Have you got a calculation to levitate a particular axle weight?
                    I think so. This set was designed to carry about 2 ounces. So we'll see soon.

                    If you give me total weight plus and estimate of speed (RPMS) I believe I can fashion a bearing that will work. You'll have to buy the magnets and we can go around about whats available to you, But if they do not work the first time we can incorporate what ever you have into the next set.

                    But I am pretty sure I can get it right the first time, just no promises. LOL

                    Lets at least plan it even if we can't follow at the moment. Maybe we can then raise money's for building it, right here on this forum.

                    Matt
                    Last edited by Matthew Jones; 01-02-2016, 11:16 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Thought

                      All we need is an estimate of cost. I'm sure if you at least get the bearings funded, you can show the difference in performance they will make between NOW and after installation. That would bringing MORE money.

                      The issue with all machines like this is whether or not they will produce any usable power when running. That's why I haven't concentrated on the Bessler Wheel. It would be awesome to have a self running machine, but if it can't do any work, it is just a novelty piece. Yes, the person who invents it will probably get rich, but it does nothing for mankind as a whole.
                      “Advances are made by answering questions. Discoveries are made by questioning answers.”
                      —Bernhard Haisch, Astrophysicist

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                      • #26
                        Friction of the bearings is one factor but alignment of the pillow block bearings is also difficult, especially as they have elongated slots.

                        No matter how perfect the frame is welded it only takes a minute bit of misalignment and it becomes another load.

                        Based on your current bearing design Matt, it looks like the inner magnet holder could feature a key way. The outer magnet holder needs to feature M10 - M12 threads or pilot bore to enable fixing to frame.

                        If those two pendulums run for 4 minutes with the frictional load of two x 26kg flywheels. What would it do with no frictional load?

                        Get investment certainly.

                        Turion, wind levers, combustion engines lever, gas, coal, nuclear and others lever.

                        Bessler was a skilled clockmaker as you know. No doubt his device used leverage.


                        Best regards,

                        Paul

                        Ps.
                        This is Bessler meets Telsa meets Energetic Forum!!
                        Last edited by soundiceuk; 01-03-2016, 01:49 PM.

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                        • #27
                          The prototype in the video would need bearings to lift about 80kg.

                          With 80kgs levitated, there becomes an opportunity to run a load instead of 80kg being the load.

                          I already have a 1/3hp 240v single phase motor for the build.

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                          • #28
                            Alignment of anything should no be hard if you have few simple tools.

                            Put the machine on a slab or piece of plywood something you can draw on.

                            Draw a square around it using the edge's.

                            Find the square corner using the 3,4,5 method, if none exist pick a corner.

                            Measure back to center of the frame. Mark the floor or whatever you on.

                            Do the opposite side +- out of square if thats the case. Then level up the side of the machine with a laser or hand level and get center marks on top.

                            Then mark the out sides of the pillow block.

                            Since we can build the bearings we can do anything we want.

                            So the spinning part is 52 kg total?

                            Matt

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                            • #29
                              https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8iubl4ik0...75009.mp4?dl=0

                              In this prototype the wheels 26kg each.

                              The weights 11kg each.

                              It was using this prototype I realised the wheels were the load.

                              It slowed down by adding a 22kg pulley.


                              It also proved chain and sprocket as king.

                              It has been suggested a cover to the machine could feature an oil bath.


                              Having zero friction on the main bearings would allow the results to be clearer.


                              I think using normal bearings or magnetic there is an optimum flywheel size, shape and weight.

                              I've been through a lot of the other variables.


                              I think a set of bearings that could levitate 200kg would give us the energy source we require.

                              The weight could remain the same and the diameter increase.

                              I would like to be able to see the construction of this within a wall of a building.

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                              • #30
                                We talk about electricity behaving like water....


                                Now my unusual analogy....

                                Try to look at this as a water wheel on steroids!!!



                                Gravitational potential is being funnelled into a high pressure hose squirting down on the paddles (pendulums/levers).

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