Your Basic Coil

[gotoluc]

Update,

most who have been experiencing this AUL (acceleration under load) effect may of noticed it's easier to achieve it with a higher impedance coil (more turns) then a low impedance coil and also using higher rotor rpm = higher frequencies.
Many, including myself (2 years ago) would of thought the coils Inductance was part of the effect seeing it happened with higher impedance coils.
I have now confirm (to myself anyways) that the effect is not based on the coils Inductance by testing the super low impedance coil I showed in my video.
It's inductance is 16uH with a resistance that's so low, it's unmeasurable.
With this special wounding geometry coil I can achieve AUL with the magnet rotor as low as 35Hz which is a new record for me.
The great thing about being able to achieve AUL at a lower frequency is, drastic reduction of core losses caused by eddy currents and hysteresis.

Just thought I would share my new findings

Luc

[gotoluc]

This was posted on my youtube video and though of posting it here as it is the way I see the effect at this time.

Posted by deslomeslager 3 hours ago
First of all: nice build as usual! And thank you for sharing. I watched it with pleasure, and hope to see the next one soon. I think of the rod as a piece of elastic band. And the prime mover as an up-down shifting device as an analogy). The coil is the 'closed end' for the standing waves. As you move the coil you are actually shortening the piece of elastic band (or cord, perhaps it should not be elastic at all). I hope the analogy stands for a bit. What it does not explain or what is not in proportion is about the phase shift. There will be a point where the emf will help rotating the prime mover. On the other hand, if the closed end of a cord is changed in an open end, the amplitude can go to twice it's maximum value since there is a returning wave which adds up. Is this a bad comparison?

My reply:
I'm thinking of the core more like water. The magnet flux, like a wave on the water. The wave is first created by the magnets movement which moves through the core like a wave on water. The coil represent an obstacle to the wave. So if it's close to the beginning of the core the coil reflects the wave back to the magnet which happens to be the same pole the wave was created causing a braking effect to the magnets movement (Lenz Law). Now move the coil back far enough on the core and by the time the wave hits the coil and reflected back to the magnet, the magnet may have had enough time to rotate to the next pole (opposite) which will cause an attraction (acceleration) which is the reverse of Lenz.
As for why different coils cause different result is caused by the coils time constant (charge time) which will dictate on how much time it take for the wave to be reflected back the magnet.
Also, another variable is, If the coil is under load at the same time, this will dictate on how much of the waves force will be reflected back to the magnet, hence reducing its capability of assisting.

I would tend to think the most efficient energy transfer (using this effect) would be to adjust it so the time constant and load completely absorbs the wave and nothing is returned which will cause no lost in magnet movement and no gain.

Now, to say there are no losses to the magnets movement would not be completely correct, as we know Eddy currents in water cause losses and are also present in the core material. However, using the newest technology in thin core material will alleviate much of these losses.
Hope this helps. Luc

[gotoluc]

People.....wake up.....it's not about AUL.....

Yes, I agree and known that for a few years.
If you read my post below yours you will see that is not what I'm recommending to do with the effect.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Now what?

You people took testing to a whole new level on the other forum, and got.....well the testing continues....please....no more testing....

You got years you say....what's it going to take to make this practical....what is practical in your opinion?


Regards

To make a generator that when under load has no effect to its prime mover?

[barbosi]

Just thought I would share my new findings

Luc

Or better put, your sharing is only a confirmation on what was shared before regarding the acceleration under the load.

... just making sure there is no frivolous attempt to patent it ...

[gotoluc]

Seriously?

Okay, what is practical in your opinion?

[gotoluc]

Or better put, your sharing is only a confirmation on what was shared before regarding the acceleration under the load.

... just making sure there is no frivolous attempt to patent it ...

What I refer to as "NEW" is me doing a public video demonstration of the effects of moving the coil on a core with different loads.

I'm not into patents, so I don't get your remark... make me feel you are insinuating something you think I do.

Luc

[Dog-One]

Okay, what is practical in your opinion?

I'm not positive about Erfinder, but I can tell you what I'd be impressed with:

A device, started with a pull string, that runs up to some predetermined RPM and stays constant. This device can be connected to a water pump via the shaft and the RPM will remain constant. The device also has electrical connections that can be connected to a heater element and will continue to maintain the same RPM and provide constant electrical power. Or you can do both electrical and mechanical at the same time. Call it an all-purpose power plant.

Erfinder highlighted something I think is really important:

"This can be done using a small amount of power from an external source providing voltage while the coil itself will add the amperage resulting a magnification process."

I partially understand it, but I think a little more verbiage will help nail it down. Where do we add this voltage and how?

[gotoluc]

Technically Luc, you didn't answer my question.....

Well then, I guess we're going nowhere.

Sorry for taking everyone's time on sharing useless stuff that everyone seems to know.

[barbosi]

I'm not into patents, so I don't get your remark...

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p.../US8555867.pdf

[gotoluc]

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=p.../US8555867.pdf

I did not apply for that patent and obviously would not waste any money on such a thing.

Do you have any other evidence to prove what you are insinuating?

Remember, the one you got this information from has been proven to manipulate events and information (Eric Dollard fiasco) and lost much credibility over it.
The difference with me is I didn't bother exposing this and just walked away.

Who do you trust?... someone that sells books and videos for profit on secrets that are never revealed... or someone that has always freely shared and has never even activated advertizing (to profit) on his video?

Prove me wrong that I have patented or made a single cent with what I have shared over the years.

Luc

[gotoluc]

You are repeating what you are already well versed in. If you want to continue in that direction then yeah, in my opinion, which shouldn't matter to you, you are going nowhere. On the other hand if you try to approach from the perspective of one who has nothing to prove, you might see that there is an entirely new world just waiting for you to explore, one where your scope will do nothing for you.

What is practical in your opinion?


Regards

Well, you obviously know what I want and everyone else who are doing the hard work. The thing is, we are possibly not where you are. So do share to help us reach that place were we don't need a scope to see the results... or else, what's the point of telling use we are not seeing what we should be seeing if we can't see it?
Do you think telling us this over and over will help?
So far you haven't shared or made obvious anything I'm not aware of.
So if you're tired of the loop throw in something new.

Regards

Luc

[gotoluc]

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Mr. Kotter I know...oooh oooh oooh

Okay... then tell us what you know

Regards

Luc

[Pembelton]

Gotoluc,

I and I know many others appreciate what you do for all of us, Thank you and don't worry about the detractors.


Pembelton

[Allen Burgess]

Well, you obviously know what I want and everyone else who are doing the hard work. The thing is, we are possibly not where you are. So do share to help us reach that place were we don't need a scope to see the results... or else, what's the point of telling use we are not seeing what we should be seeing if we can't see it?
Do you think telling us this over and over will help?
So far you haven't shared or made obvious anything I'm not aware of.
So if you're tired of the loop throw in something new.

Regards

Luc

@Gotoluc,

What I would like to see you test more then anything is the effect adding a permanent magnet to back end of the coil core would have, if any, on the distance the output coil would need to be from the magnet rotor to achieve AUL wave reflection. Can you try this for us please with both polarities?