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  • Turion is an American inventor targeted by the A.I. and bought
    and paid for lame brain antagonist of our day. One thing the system
    forgot, some of us grew up fighting for everything we ever got
    with this type of opposition from the start.

    As probability has it he is one of the few who has endured and stood the
    test of his time. teachers are programmed to demand results from
    their students like Doctors you either do what is expected or else.

    In some ways this is good if the project is right. It is what it is. Think
    about what is happening here. Now that Turion has learned that Govt
    control has lied to us, it's to late, he is the same teacher he always was
    taught to be as a young man.

    Everything works out in the end. I like a strong voice of reason, a teacher
    should be that and of course is why I like David Bowling. He is tough,
    smart, steady, always tells the truth and best of all knows what he is
    teaching because he has the many models on his desk.

    That is the mark of a real teacher. Teachers are tough because of the
    many years of dealing with huge cross section of hard head humans.

    Enjoy it boys, the die is cast and the project stands tall, attack it, talk down
    and mock all you like a teacher is use to it. I know I teach.

    And may the best man win!!! Go Dave.


    As for the rest of you lying sacks??........You know what you are.

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    • Your test

      Originally posted by Turion
      ...

      And you are silly enough to accuse me of not even building the circuit? Now THAT’S audacity. LOL. ...
      Show us your data and photo or video of it please.

      bi

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      • Originally posted by bistander View Post
        Show us your data and photo or video of it please.

        bi
        Here is Bi

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          Originally posted by Turion
          Here are the facts, and I HAVE stated them many times.

          1. When you are using the three battery system OR the single battery circuit, you are NEVER going to economically charge a 12 volt battery with 12 volts. Have you ever put a kilowatt meter on the wall, plugged in your standard battery charger into it, and charged a battery? Try it sometime.
          Yeah, I did that, many times over the years. Here's a recent example
          http://www.energeticforum.com/316070-post4551.html
          Originally posted by Turion
          A BOOST module is necessary in BOTH situations to raise the voltage that is hitting the battery to around 14.2 volts or more.
          Strange statement. You say you need a boost module when using a standard wall-plug powered battery charger?

          Originally posted by Turion
          3. Batteries have impedance and RESIST CHARGING (see #1 above and LOOK at what it takes to actually charge a battery) The bigger the battery, the lower the impedance to charge.
          Generally speaking, yes, larger capacity cells have lower impedance, but size doesn't always matter. The battery which I used to replicate your single battery system is a premium high power battery, probably the best you can buy. I posted the info and link to specifications. I'm pretty sure its impedance is lower than any 12V lead-acid battery you could have used.

          Originally posted by Turion
          Now I have said that I can get extended run times with a stock motor and a smaller battery. That's true. But I know EXACTLY what I am looking for and it STILL takes me a LONG TIME to get everything working correctly. And I have been messing with this for over ten years now. What are the chances that somebody new is going to stumble on success? Some HAVE, but only a couple. And I guarantee it took more than one attempt.
          It took several attempts to get the converters and load adjusted. I was prepared to do more but couldn't get any help from you, or Matt.

          Regards,

          bi

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          • Brothers

            Don’t forget to tighten the battery connections before charging because it is necessary.
            Make sure each cell is saturated with distilled water and all eye level even.
            Then check the individual batteries voltage, electrolyte level and actual water usage per battery.
            The older a battery gets, the more water it uses.
            Pockets of gas can get trapped in a charging battery and show false water levels until the pocket gives and then water is needed unknowingly.
            A rubber hammer lightly tapping the outer case will work wonders and give you peace of mind plus healthier batteries.

            Attached Files

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            • Two volt batteries in a 24 volt bank at 1110 amp hours.

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              • Originally posted by BroMikey View Post
                Here is Bi

                Hey, that ain’t bi, that’s me, I’m a tiny little green chicken!!

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                • Since I’m a tiny little green chicken, I can pick up corn with my pecker.
                  I can also pick up chicks with that trick.

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                  • Terminal fasteners

                    Originally posted by Pot head View Post
                    Don’t forget to tighten the battery connections before charging because it is necessary.
                    ...
                    Lock washers would help.

                    bi

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                    • Thank you bi, but I chose to not use them for the sake of simplicity, the different manufacturers and how the metals react when oxidized plus it is an extra cost and they fail too often because of chemistry.
                      It is a good idea, but...nah.
                      Thanks anyway.

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                      • That is a very logical first step.

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                        • Originally posted by Turion
                          The boost module is necessary in both the 3 battery setup and the single battery setup.

                          I mentioned plugging a watt meter into the wall and a battery charger into it so people could see how many watts are USED to CHARGE compared to what is actually in the battery for USE once it is “charged”

                          Sorry Dave performance and efficiency is way way beyond this guy
                          he thinks it must be sent to an independent lab for analysis if it has
                          any volts or amps in it.

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                          • If it has volts and amps, then it must be tasty.
                            Ever put a nine volt battery to your tongue?
                            It tastes like 9 volts!!
                            It helps the munchies.
                            Does it help you lose weight?
                            Hmm...

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                            • Anyways getting back to coil sizes that Thane has gone to.
                              This is his first coil looking like a miniature Nerf football must be
                              many thousands of feet at 30awg as stated in his write ups.




                              Next is his 3rd design not like the first producing only a 100ma. This
                              one is NOT multi stranded, it is a small winding of 18awg that he can
                              get 5 amps from. Makes sense, the coil amp rating would fall somewhere
                              between chassis and transmission. 5 AMPS per coil does seem a little
                              high but this of course is a pulsed rate not hundreds of volts maybe 50Vdc

                              Maybe with the right wire.


                              Last edited by BroMikey; 06-22-2019, 06:04 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by Pot head View Post
                                If it has volts and amps, then it must be tasty.
                                Ever put a nine volt battery to your tongue?
                                It tastes like 9 volts!!
                                It helps the munchies.
                                Does it help you lose weight?
                                Hmm...
                                You smok'em peace pipe? Ya ain't a gonna lose any weight

                                That rig of yours is big, looking foreword to see what you get out of it too.

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