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  • Hi all, i removed the parallel connections from the 3 resting batteries and each battery is sitting at 12.38 volts, after over 24 hours.
    I will continue the experiment now.
    peace love light

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    • Hi all, i think the experiment is close to ending, the series batteries are in the 11.85-11.88 volt region, while under load and charge battery is showing 12.74 volts under load.
      The total watt/hours of usable power is now at 514 watt hours and the total recycled energy is at 1,154 watt/hours.
      The assumed watt/hours in the 3 batteries, was 480 watt/hours.
      I think even more watt/hours can be extracted, if i allow them to rest in parallel again. Though i think i'm done with this particular experiment, what do you folks think.
      peace love light

      Edit: ok, so i placed all 3 batteries in parallel again and will let them rest and equalize for awhile and then continue the experiment.
      Each battery is resting at 12.31 volts for now.
      To be more specific about the watt/hours used so far.
      77.5 hours at previous circuit setup, 8 watts total average (620 watt/hours) , 3.7 watts average usable ( 286 watt/hours )
      40 hours with new circuit setup, 13.35 watts average ( 534 watt/hours ), 5.7 watts average usable ( 228 watt/hours )
      Last edited by SkyWatcher; 08-22-2016, 09:53 PM.

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      • Hi all, so i am continuing the experiment, i've gone this far, why stop now.
        I ran the system for another 7 hours.
        Total watt/hours used so far = 1,247 watt/hours.
        Total usable watt/hours so far = 554 watt/hours.
        Will continue experiment tomorrow, batteries will rest overnight, connected in parallel again.
        peace love light

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        • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
          Hi all, so i am continuing the experiment, i've gone this far, why stop now.
          I ran the system for another 7 hours.
          Total watt/hours used so far = 1,247 watt/hours.
          Total usable watt/hours so far = 554 watt/hours.
          Will continue experiment tomorrow, batteries will rest overnight, connected in parallel again.
          peace love light

          That's alot of pumpin Sky, yeah, don't stop now 12.31v is still
          a half a battery man. It's looks like you did it to me. You are
          suppose to have dead batteries already so don't be surprised if
          it goes for another 300watt/hrs.

          BTW when your battery is at rest and it reads 12.00v then it is dead.
          At 12.7v it is full and 12.31v is half full, well maybe 12.35v but one thing
          I want to say. That battery may like those pulses better with the battery
          half charged or receive them more readily seeing how the impedance
          might be lower. I saw John B. and Aaron both run their ALUM battery
          down to a half a volt per cell and the thing would just keep running
          forever. Those oscillators love low impedance.

          When your battery is dead the voltage will no longer maintain a slow
          consist decline. At about 11volts some batteries go belly up, bottoming
          out ringing the 10.50v alarm in about another few minutes.

          You don't want to do that. As long as it stays constant the battery will
          be just fine.
          Last edited by BroMikey; 08-23-2016, 09:32 AM.

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          • Hi mike, thanks for the valuable information.
            So i will watch the voltage and if it starts to drop off rapidly, i will consider the experiment done.
            Though the experiment continues for now, after resting all night, each battery is now resting at 12.19 volts.
            peace love light

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            • Hi all, the experiment continues.
              Total watt/hours recycled = 1359 watt/hours
              Total usable watt/hours = 605 watt/hours
              Placed batteries in parallel again, to sit overnight and equalize.
              Each battery showing 12.14 volts, though that will probably settle to 12.11 volts or so.
              I think one more day of testing is all she has left.
              peace love light

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              • Hi all, i ended the experiment, one of batteries dropped down to 11 volts under load, so the data in previous post is the final, plus whatever might have been left in the batteries.
                Future experiments will be more focussed on maintaining the voltage in primary series batteries, as turion has been doing
                Batteries are being recharged at the moment.
                And a voice is saying not to use the boost converter, as it has too many losses as designed.
                Have an idea to try, the cen-tech inverter splitting the positives and use the pulsing created by that inverter to power a small transformer.
                Could use my ferrite core in series with that inverter, a heavier gauge coil is probably needed as primary coil, then a secondary coil to feed back to primaries.
                We shall see.
                peace love light

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                • Hi all, well so much for that idea, it seems the inverter is not pulsing on the input line, guess that makes sense that it would not be.
                  So the transformer i made with a ferrite tube, 18 gauge primary with 24 gauge on top, no induction is being created on secondary.
                  So i will try my oscillator in series with that transformer, to get the pulsing action, then the transformer secondary output, will go to the primary series batteries.
                  peace love light

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                  • Hi all, i briefly tested the oscillator with the transformer in series and the led bulbs powered off the oscillator spike.
                    The secondary of transformer has a full wave bridge and is on left in picture, the ferrite tube core.
                    I have 2 layers of 24awg. as secondary, that may be too many turns, as the open circuit voltage, is 105 volts pulsed dc, though i'm sure it drops down when placed across primary series batteries.
                    I do see that it is making a difference, when placed across series batteries.
                    Without the secondary output connected, the voltage drops faster.
                    peace love light

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                    • Hi all, i'm back with the split positive system.
                      I decided to make some shorter tests, to determine better, how much i can get from the charge battery.
                      To see, for example, if we can put 1 watt through the split positive and get that 1 watt back out of the charge battery.
                      The boost converter is a no go for me at least, maybe i did something wrong with the voltage output or something is wrong with my boost converter, didn't get much back after using that on the positives.
                      However, using the oscillator circuit with diode and led bulbs off the collector into positive of charge battery, so far i have managed 78.3 percent recovery from the charge battery.
                      I am doing more tests to get an average.
                      I am determining the watts drawn from the series batteries, then taking the amperage and multiplying that by the average potential difference voltage between the positives.
                      This gives me the watts being drawn by the oscillator.
                      I then calculate how many minutes the system needs to run to give that watt/hour number.
                      Then i power the circuit from the charge battery alone and time how long it runs the oscillator circuit with led bulbs, to know the percent recovered.
                      peace love light
                      Edit: i should make clear, recovery is probably not the right word, because i ran the oscillator and lighted the led bulbs with a certain number of watt/hours, then based on an hour of run time, the same watts are used in the oscillator on the charge battery stand alone.
                      so technically, i already got the lighting i desired and then got an extra 78.3 percent more so far.
                      Last edited by SkyWatcher; 08-28-2016, 02:18 AM.

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                      • SMALL STEPS

                        Great to see you hanging in there SKY. The numbers look
                        good. Keep doing this and as you do you will know beyond any doubt
                        what you battery is capable or what it is not.

                        78 percent seems to be a figure others have reported also. This all may
                        seem fairly insignificant to those who are just coming thru with no real
                        desire to do the work.

                        I am learning fast on my experiment so let me offer some refreshing
                        thoughts.


                        I HAVE AN IMPULSE NODE.

                        This node is something like the small electrical node JOHN K. helped
                        me construct, in that I get energy from somewhere for such a low cost
                        on the input it is almost embarrassing

                        This new NODE is electro-mechanical. It charges up the charge battery
                        like energy is going out of style (Old Expression) And I think this aspect
                        of the circuits ability to charge the charge battery so well is worth pointing
                        out. Got to do it, I must stress this charging EFFECT?

                        I guess I'll just call it a "CHARGING EFFECT" now why would I do that?
                        Well remember how I encourage you to gain a deep familiarity with what
                        your battery can and can not do? Let me tell you that this battery has an
                        obstinate behavior when using RAW DC. I can run 5 amps to this big ole
                        30ah deepcycle and it just sits there almost laughing at me. It goes up
                        but very reluctantly for all of the energy I can feed it.

                        On the other hand I can split the positive, run 1.2amps thru the
                        Pulse Mod Motor Tesla Energizer Switch and with little to no effort
                        she goes right up. Part of the increased COP comes in this way,
                        where the batteries get ta liken the pulsing so energy is not wasted.

                        If I put this battery on a 1 amp RAW DC the battery voltage will not climb
                        at all for hours and hours. I don't know how to describe this "EFFECT" any
                        other way.

                        Of course it won't charge in 15 minutes but that 1 amp of pulses coming
                        from the Matt Mod Motor Tesla Switch will end with a higher reading than
                        RAW DC.

                        You are in search of a NODE. In John Bedini's lectures he shows a NODE
                        as an installed device using already existing energy being pumped around
                        the system with little to no loss to the primary pumping side, yet will
                        produce it's own power that is completely extra energy if tuned right.

                        Your oscillator is a NODE in your 3 battery recirculating system. According
                        to JOHN B. you need to pulse/pump DC which to a coil is a form of ac to
                        start with and after that you can keep adding NODES one behind he other
                        or in other parts of the circuit.

                        This is why JOHN showed us all the SSG first, it is a pump/pulsating of DC
                        which forms the primary system. Next an "IMPULSE NODE" can tap
                        free energy.

                        One very important thought JOHN pointed out was his use of a capacitor
                        to charge at the node but stressed that when returning excess energy
                        produced by the NODE to to the primary circuit the cap would need to be
                        completely disconnected ON BOTH SIDES and then placed over the run
                        battery for micro-second.

                        The Matt Modified Motor is first a pump then a NODE at the same time
                        next the generator section is NODE #2

                        Last edited by BroMikey; 08-28-2016, 02:53 AM.

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                        • Hi all, Hi mike, thanks for sharing that information.
                          I am trying a new variation with this split positive setup.
                          So far it seems to be working well.
                          The idea, is to try and mimic the generator that is run off the modified motor.
                          So i placed an 8 cell nimh 3000mah battery pack in series with the charge battery and after the led bulbs.
                          I would use another 12 volt lead acid, but i only have 3 at the moment.
                          With this setup, the led bulbs only allow current to flow on the spike.
                          The 4th nimh recovery battery gets charged in series with the charge battery from the spike and the charge battery also from the normal split positives.
                          We also get the light from the led bulbs in the process of doing this.
                          This 4th battery is my attempt with this particular setup, to mimic the generator output.
                          So we then take that 4th battery, preferably a 12 volt battery or even 2 in parallel and then in series again with the charge battery, we then use that 4th battery to solely power the oscillator circuit.
                          We use the spike output to charge back up the series batteries, until we have used what ever capacity was gained in the 4th battery from our running the split positive system.
                          i will draw the setup and post it tonight sometime.
                          comments always welcome
                          peace love light
                          Edit: so, two 12 volt lead acid could be in series, with the 3rd charge battery in its normal position or, they could both be in parallel, depends on which configuration charges the best, in either case, the 2 batteries can then be placed in series and power the oscillator circuit back towards the input series batteries, which can be arranged in similar fashion and still get light output, while doing so.
                          Last edited by SkyWatcher; 08-30-2016, 12:43 AM.

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                          • Hi all, here is the circuit i'm working with at the moment.
                            We could call it the motor mimicker.
                            peace love light

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                            • Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                              Hi all, here is the circuit i'm working with
                              at the moment.
                              We could call it the motor mimicker.
                              peace love light
                              motor mimicker?

                              To do what the modified motor does? Let's see to do that
                              you need an oscillator that turns on and off much more abruptly. Like
                              the brushes on the commutator do. When a brush is disconnected from
                              the rotating commutator physically it does so without there ever being
                              a chance for part failure to bleed power back around another way.

                              The brush is a sharp consist cutoff that is fail safe. To do that with an
                              oscillator you need to look at Matt's suggestion for a micro-controller
                              that deals in nano pulses. And I believe (Don't quote me) that IGBT
                              stamps are used due to their ability to perform these sharp cutoff's.

                              However you could intimate Peter L. SSG motor circuit with bear skins
                              and stone knives. Just winding your coil with unused windings, connect
                              them in series and send the extra free energy on collapse to the charge
                              battery.

                              We may not be able to mimick the motor brush action with a loin clothe
                              and a spear but we can get the extra any number of ways. Do you
                              understand what Peter has done? You will be short the double extra in the
                              absences of harvesting the mechanical energy also but properly would
                              SSSG might do half the job Peter is doing.


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                              • Hi mike, thanks for sharing.
                                Yes im aware what peter is doing and i know he's not using a commutator.
                                I just feel, there should be a way to do this solid state also.
                                Yes, i'm aware my circuit components don't have the abrupt switching the system probably needs for best performance, it's what i have at the moment and i'm trying things.
                                peace love light

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