BEMF current reversal.

[ltseung888]

This video shows a schematic of a charged inductor sending reversed polarity power back to a source battery after the circuit's broken at the negative battery pole:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48_WG8Drm34

Is there anything wrong with kdaveem's simple explanation? He says he "Puts positive in one way and when he disconnects it, negative comes back out".

He should have displayed the actual waveforms.

Is there anything wrong with kdaveem's simple explanation? He says he "Puts positive in one way and when he disconnects it, negative comes back out".

Actual observation revealed that the high negative voltage spike across the coil could occur at the leading edge - during the connection period. At same time, the current (voltage across a one ohm resistor) could be positive.

His explanation is not consistent with experimental observation.

Experiment with vertical coil and magnet repulsion clearly showed the above with most attempts. Experiment with circular coil and magnet repulsion varied with exact timing but the same effect could appear. That was the result from the Fung Wheel.

The problem with kdaveem and many others is - they do not have the actual waveforms. They just make what they believe to be reasonable assumptions... That is dangerous science...

*** In the attached Fung Wheel diagram, the top curve is the current in the circuit. The bottom is the voltage across the coil.

[Allen Burgess]

Fung wheel.

@Itseung888,

Thanks again for helping clear that up. Do you think the "Fung Wheel" could benefit from the addition of a backspike energized hi-voltage secondary power coil and capacitor like Woopjump's? Double the propulsion force from the same input pulse?

I find it interesting that the off centered wheel develops 1/3 more force in the vertical positon then when lying flat on the horizontal plane.

[ltseung888]

@Itseung888,

Thanks again for helping clear that up. Do you think the "Fung Wheel" could benefit from the addition of a backspike energized hi-voltage secondary power coil and capacitor like Woopjump's? Double the propulsion force from the same input pulse?

I find it interesting that the off centered wheel develops 1/3 more force in the vertical positon then when lying flat on the horizontal plane.

I am sure that there is much more than what we have discussed openly on the Internet. USA and China have their UFOs flying. I am sure that their military scientists use oscilloscopes to observe the waveforms.

The Fung wheel is an unbalanced wheel set up. That is an improvement over the pendulum and thus can lead-out gravitational energy in the vertical position...

If we can lead-out gravitational energy, we must be able to lead-out electromagnetic energy... The many inventions outlined in Patrick Kelly's e-book may be using such lead-out energy.

I am not familiar with the Woopjump.

[Allen Burgess]

"Reverse Current" as "Negative Energy".

@itseung888,

I approve of referring to what appears to be "Reverse Current" as "Negative Energy". I don't know how well that will be accepted by our group of OU skeptic midnight trash hounds.

Two offset magnets placed right next to each other on the "Fung Wheel" would still produce the pendulum effect, and allow a hi-voltage secondary backspike power coil to sit right next to a primary on the stator for a nearly slimultaneous "Double Wallop" for the same input value. The circuit would probably need a Reed switch like Woopyjumps.

[ltseung888]

@Itseung888,

Thanks again for helping clear that up. Do you think the "Fung Wheel" could benefit from the addition of a backspike energized hi-voltage secondary power coil and capacitor like Woopjump's? Double the propulsion force from the same input pulse?

I find it interesting that the off centered wheel develops 1/3 more force in the vertical positon then when lying flat on the horizontal plane.

I shall do two more vertical repulsion waveform experiments.

1. No magnet inside the coil. ( kdaveem's simple current on/off experiment)
2. There is magnet but the current is so small that the magnet does not jump.

Let us see what we can learn...

[Dave45]

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The diode between the coils must be removed it dampens the oscillation.

[ltseung888]

The waveform from the air core coil. The top curve is the Current. The bottom is the Voltage across the coil. The Input voltage is 4V DC.

Note that at the leading edge (RHS), The Current is negative while the Voltage is positive. That give negative power.

At the trailing edge, the opposite occurs, the Current is Positive while the Voltage is negative. That also gives Negative power.

The magnitude of the spikes is small - in the order of a few volts.

Can we say that Negative Power enters the coil at both leading and trailing edges...

[ltseung888]

Waveform for the case of magnet inside coil but the current was too small to make it jump. The DC Voltage was 4V. The Large Negative Voltage was observed.

The circuit diagram is attached.

[Allen Burgess]

Stefan Hartmann's measurements of JL Naudin's Newman motor:

"Now, the new enhanced commutator V1.4 shows some interesting results. The I/O current flow from the power supply has been measured accross a 100 ohms resistor between the points A-C. You may notice that there are LESS POSITIVE CURRENT PULSES THAN NEGATIVE CURRENT PULSES as shown in the picture below. Today my power supply is not able to convert these negative spikes of current in reusable power, this will be done soon with a new enhanced power supply circuit. This negative current COMES BACK TO THE POWER SUPPLY and this can explain why the original Newman machine has been able to keep its battery charged. The negative current is FREE NEGATIVE POWER and you may notice in the pictures E and F that the negative current spikes in most case are bigger than the positive current spikes".

[Allen Burgess]

Current reversal.

Stefan states that "Negative current comes back to the power supply".

Is it that reverse direction negative current is interpolated as equivalent to positive current traveling in the other direction?

[ltseung888]

Stefan Hartmann's measurements of JL Naudin's Newman motor:

"Now, the new enhanced commutator V1.4 shows some interesting results. The I/O current flow from the power supply has been measured accross a 100 ohms resistor between the points A-C. You may notice that there are LESS POSITIVE CURRENT PULSES THAN NEGATIVE CURRENT PULSES as shown in the picture below. Today my power supply is not able to convert these negative spikes of current in reusable power, this will be done soon with a new enhanced power supply circuit. This negative current COMES BACK TO THE POWER SUPPLY and this can explain why the original Newman machine has been able to keep its battery charged. The negative current is FREE NEGATIVE POWER and you may notice in the pictures E and F that the negative current spikes in most case are bigger than the positive current spikes".

Researchers, Look for Negative Energy with your DSO. Display Current and Voltage simultaneously.

[Dave45]

When a coil is pulsed with just a single pulse it goes pos,(magnetic field builds then collapses) then goes neg (magnetic field builds then collapses) we call this ringing but whats really happening.
Why does it go pos then neg then pos an so on, what energy is collapsing into the coil to make it change polarity (opposites attract)
When neg electrons are moving through the wire the magnetic fields (eddy currents) are pos when they collapse the coil goes pos, pos energy is moving through the wire,then the magnetic fields ( eddy currents) are neg, then when that field collapses neg energy is once again moving through the wire and this continues, each building field is smaller than the last but the polarity changes with each expanding and collapsing field.
Think about that, the coil is pulling energy from the ambient.

[ltseung888]

When a coil is pulsed with just a single pulse it goes pos,(magnetic field builds then collapses) then goes neg (magnetic field builds then collapses) we call this ringing but whats really happening.
Why does it go pos then neg then pos an so on, what energy is collapsing into the coil to make it change polarity (opposites attract)
When neg electrons are moving through the wire the magnetic fields (eddy currents) are pos when they collapse the coil goes pos, pos energy is moving through the wire,then the magnetic fields ( eddy currents) are neg, then when that field collapses neg energy is once again moving through the wire and this continues, each building field is smaller than the last but the polarity changes with each expanding and collapsing field.
Think about that, the coil is pulling energy from the ambient.

Think about that, the coil is pulling energy from the ambient.

Now consider the case of having ferromagnetic material in the core of the coil. The tiny magnets or dipoles will be aligned. These dipoles themselves have energy. The resulting energy is the sum of the alignment energy plus the energy already available in the dipoles???

Have we solved the mystery of lead-out energy machines???

*** Even in the straight line repulsion case, we did not always get the same waveform. One explanation was that the swinging back to randomness would take time. If another pulse were applied, it would be like pushing the swing at the wrong time. Getting a different waveform would not be a surprise.

https://youtu.be/Y2K2b4i_FYo