BEMF current reversal.

[ltseung888]

Stefan states that "Negative current comes back to the power supply".

Is it that reverse direction negative current is interpolated as equivalent to positive current traveling in the other direction?

No. Current can flow back in two ways.

1. The resulting voltage is opposite and higher than the voltage of the battery. This is the normal case of recharging the battery.

2. The resulting voltage is in same direction of the battery (can be lower or higher). However, the current flows in opposite direction to the voltage. This is the strange phenomenon of negative energy.

[Allen Burgess]

Magnet and large negative spike.

@Itseung888,

You've been an enourmous help. Thank you!

Your scope shots of kdaveem's simple circuit show an increased negative BEMF spike with the magnet in adjacency to the coil.

The circuit in this Marc Belanger video below resembles Woopyjump's because the BEMF secondary winding is a higher voltage wrap. I wonder if Marc's output could be improved with the addition of a magnet placed inside the core of the primary winding?

Over unity created with transformed back EMF:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIk_24tOAf4

[citfta]

All we are seeing in that video is someone that doesn't understand about battery chemistry. If you listen closely he says he pulled the battery down with two tail light bulbs connected in parallel. And he says he pulled the battery all the way down to 9 volts. Anyone that has worked with batteries for any time at all will tell you after you take a heavy load off a battery the battery will try to recover back to it's normal voltage. He could leave off the circuit and just hook a meter to the battery and see the same thing.

If you want some proof of this just try that same circuit with a battery that has not been just discharged to a low level. Charge a battery and then let it sit overnight or for at least a few hours then try that circuit and you will see the battery slowly going down. That circuit may help keep the battery from going down as fast but it will go down and not up.

Carroll

PS: And to answer your question you are sure to ask, yes I have tried that circuit and gotten the results I just posted. Try it for yourself and see.

[Allen Burgess]

All we are seeing in that video is someone that doesn't understand about battery chemistry. If you listen closely he says he pulled the battery down with two tail light bulbs connected in parallel. And he says he pulled the battery all the way down to 9 volts. Anyone that has worked with batteries for any time at all will tell you after you take a heavy load off a battery the battery will try to recover back to it's normal voltage. He could leave off the circuit and just hook a meter to the battery and see the same thing.

If you want some proof of this just try that same circuit with a battery that has not been just discharged to a low level. Charge a battery and then let it sit overnight or for at least a few hours then try that circuit and you will see the battery slowly going down. That circuit may help keep the battery from going down as fast but it will go down and not up.

Carroll

PS: And to answer your question you are sure to ask, yes I have tried that circuit and gotten the results I just posted. Try it for yourself and see.

@Citfta,

I didn't post that video to get your opinion on battery chemistry. I inquired to Itseung about the effect placing a magnet in the primary core would have on the BEMF. Why not just put me back on your ignore list Mr. know-it-all?

[Allen Burgess]

Colliding magnetic fields.

"At the region where magnetic fields from the Sun and Earth meet, field lines buckle, break, and snap together again, powering dramatic events like auroras in the process".

Based on Itseung's test results from the simple kdaveem circuit; An air core coil should generate a larger negative backspike with a diametric cylinder magnet positioned inside the core. This should trigger an "Aurora Event" when the collapsing magnetic field from the coil collides with the PM field from inside the core.

A ring of crystal alternator diodes circling the coil should be able to collect and rectify this kind of "Aurora Energy".

A jacket of LED'S surrounding the coil may be able to harvest and rectify this kind of "Aurora Energy".

[Allen Burgess]

LED'S as photovoltaic cells.

LED'S convert other kinds of electron radiation to electricity as well:

"Quantum physics gets it’s name from the quantization of particle energies. In quantum physics particles can only have very specific values for the energy, and they must all be multiples of ћ (h-bar) However, in every-day life these energy levels are so close together that you don’t really notice the difference".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-rfjUQdboc

It would make an interesting experiment to produce a backspike in a magnet core coil and see if a voltage appeared in an LED taped to the side!

[Allen Burgess]

LED Lattice vibrations.

From March 9, 2012:

"MIT physicists have been testing a light-emitting diode that has an electrical efficiency of more than 100 percent. You may ask, "Wouldn't that mean it breaks the first law of thermodynamics?" The answer, happily, is no.

The LED produces 69 picowatts of light using 30 picowatts of power, giving it an efficiency of 230 percent. That means it operates above "unity efficiency" -- putting it into a category normally occupied by perpetual motion machines.

However, while MIT's diode puts out more than twice as much energy in photons as it's fed in electrons, it doesn't violate the conservation of energy because it appears to draw in heat energy from its surroundings instead. When it gets more than 100 percent electrically-efficient, it begins to cool down, stealing energy from its environment to convert into more photons.

In slightly more detail, the researchers chose an LED with a small band gap, and applied smaller and smaller voltages. Every time the voltage was halved, the electrical power was reduced by a factor of four, but the light power emitted only dropped by a factor of two. The extra energy came instead from lattice vibrations".

LED Lattice vibrations may be excited by the "Aurora Effect" from the colliding magnetic fields of a violent backspike and a permanent magnet field. Above "unity efficiency" has been demonstrated by these diodes because they draw heat in from the environment to convert to power; This means the LED's will convert heat from the pulse coil to electrical power like a Peltier module. Exciting a full jacket of LED's with the broadcast electron lattice vibrations, with the field collision magnified negative backspike, coupled with the recycling of the BEMF to source, may generate a COP>1.

[wantomake]

Schematic

@Itseung888,

You've been an enourmous help. Thank you!

Your scope shots of kdaveem's simple circuit show an increased negative BEMF spike with the magnet in adjacency to the coil.

The circuit in this Marc Belanger video below resembles Woopyjump's because the BEMF secondary winding is a higher voltage wrap. I wonder if Marc's output could be improved with the addition of a magnet placed inside the core of the primary winding?

Over unity created with transformed back EMF:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIk_24tOAf4

Hello Allen,
I tried to find Woopyjump' s schematic on his YouTube channel to try what they did and if my setup was different. I haven't rewound a transformer yet but would give that a try. Not sure about Marc's experiment but, the energy to power the pulsing relay and led came from somewhere. I wish he had shown resting voltage of the battery first. Just my thinking which gets me in trouble a lot.

Any help is appreciated,
wantomake

[Allen Burgess]

Transundulationisem.

Higg's Boson, and Quantum impact:

[Allen Burgess]

woopyjump schematic.

Hello Allen,
I tried to find Woopyjump' s schematic on his YouTube channel to try what they did and if my setup was different. I haven't rewound a transformer yet but would give that a try. Not sure about Marc's experiment but, the energy to power the pulsing relay and led came from somewhere. I wish he had shown resting voltage of the battery first. Just my thinking which gets me in trouble a lot.

Any help is appreciated,
wantomake

@wantomake

This is the best I can do: He sawed those laminated U cores from a microwave transformer core cut in half. The Ohmic resistance of his seconday appears to be 420 times that of his primary at 4.8 henries. His primary has 5 micro henries of inductance, and the capacitor 1 micro farad of capacitance.

[Allen Burgess]

Rubber Band "Joule Thief".

New video from Lidmotor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5lXqkoMzE

This circuit is nearly identical to Igor's "Reed Switch Spinner l"

"An LED connected across the coil catches the 'flyback' energy of the coil's field collapse and lights up".

[ltseung888]

New video from Lidmotor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5lXqkoMzE

This circuit is nearly identical to Igor's "Reed Switch Spinner l"

"An LED connected across the coil catches the 'flyback' energy of the coil's field collapse and lights up".

Would be interesting to see the waveforms. I believe that we would detect negative energy.

[Allen Burgess]

Mechanical Joule Thief.

Note the experimenter "GrandadIsAnOldMan" commenting at 1:40 in this video that: "The magnetic current collapses and sends current in the opposite direction"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RyR-bG0Ar0

[citfta]

No matter how many videos you find that agree with you does not make your mistaken ideas correct. They only show a lot of other people that are equally confused. We have clearly shown you with scope shots and other videos that the current DOES NOT reverse when the power is removed from the coil. He also makes it clear in the comments that he is a beginner in electronics. So most of what he has learned has probably come from other Youtube posters that also don't really know what they are doing.


JUST BECAUSE IT IS ON YOUTUBE DOES NOT MAKE IT CORRECT

[Allen Burgess]

Induced current flowing in the opposite direction.

"Let us consider another experiment. In Fig. 3 (below) a large wooden spool wound with a large number of turns of fine, insulated wire is connected to a galvanometer. A small spool wound with a few turns of insulated wire is connected in series with a dry cell and a contact key. Let us put the small spool down inside the large spool and press the contact key, closing the circuit. The galvanometer needle will be deflected, showing that a current has been induced in the large coil. What has happened? When we closed the switch and current started flowing in the small coil, that current caused a magnetic field to develop around it, and that developing magnetic field induced an emf and current in the large coil. If the key is kept closed, the induced current in the large coil soon stops. When the circuit is broken, the strength of the magnetic field quickly falls to zero and an induced current flowing in the opposite direction occurs. In both cases the induced current stops flowing when the magnetic field stops changing".