Figuera Device, Part G Continuum.( Serious Builders Only)

[Netica]

Hi MM,

It was a while ago now but I think the winds on the G core were 20 or 40 I may have tried both. The speed would have been from a few hertz to around 70. I cant really be sure its just that this is the areas I have been testing in.

As far as the speed thing goes the brightness doesn't just appear at a certain frequency its more of a gradual thing with changes in speed.

netica

[Cornboy 555]

The other guys are now talking about resonance, just my two cents, where you have an electric spark,even the tiniest one, all frequencies are available, that is why i love to use mechanical commutators, i feel they help balance your system.

With Respect, Cornboy.

[marathonman]

Frequency

Very interesting to hear of the frequency thing. look to see what comes of this.
also good to hear from you as i was beginning to wonder.

I do have one question though, How many winds were you using when you tried the continuous wind part G? and what speed were you using when testing?. i am just curious because Mr. Doug used this method and it worked so i was just curious. he did use the direct brush contact though but i don't think this would be a deal breaker but i could be incorrect.

anyways, good to hear from you.

MM

[Netica]

HI Cornboy,

Up to now I have been using mostly 12v, amperage has varied depending on the tests, from around 6A down to around 2.5A.

[Cornboy 555]

Thanks for chiming in Netica, what voltage and amperage are you using for testing?.

Good to hear from you.

Regards Cornboy.

[Netica]

Hello MM and all,

Sorry haven't posted for awhile but haven't had anything extraodiary to report.

I have been testing my set up with low voltage for quite some time trying different things out, Some things not so dirrectly related but just like trying to see what happens.

I was unable to take the voltage or wattage up to much as I had a weak connection being the wire comming out of the brush I used. I burnt the wire out quite easy on the first one I had.

I have now aquired a very heavy duty brush that will be able to take heaps of current. I am building something to hold it on now.
I initially thought that it shouldn't really matter on the wattage that is used as it should work either way.
Anyway when I get the holder together I can do some more testing.

One thing I have found with my set up at least up to now is that there seems to be an optimum hertz to use, roughly being around 40 to 55hertz. My secondary power output peeks in this area.

netica

[marathonman]

Wiring

The wiring looked fairly straight forward.
maybe you weren't holding your lip right on the first attempt.
i am glad you had no problems.

all i ask is when your com is built and running with brush intact, post amp draw and voltage at 3600 rpm.

MM

[Shadow119g]

Beats me!

I wired up the motor the same way I had it wired before and...............................moment of silence........................................... ........................!

"IT WORKS"

Thanks,
Shadow

[marathonman]

Circuit

Shadow;

Hows that wiring of your beautiful motor coming along.

MM

[marathonman]

Analogy

I just wanted to Post an analogy from Doug that may help people further their understanding of the Figuera device interaction between the primaries, secondary and the load.

Quote;
"You might want to remember how a squirrel cage motor works. There is no current or voltage going into the rotor. It develops it's own current through induction and establishes it's own magnetic field only as a result of the relative motion between the rotating field and the core. If the core catches up to the rotating field the relative motion is reduced and the current in the rotor reduces slowing down the rotor until the relative motion is fast enough to induce a stronger field in the rotor so it can be pushed around by the rotating field again. They don't combine into mutual fields as that would stop the relative motion. Without having a rotating rotor like the squirrel cage motor to provide the difference between the rotating field and the induced field on the rotor it takes a bit of creative thinking to accomplish the same effect in a stationary condition of the cores in Clemente's generator."

"There is no electrical connection from primary to secondary and after induction in the secondary from the primary's, it produces current around the secondary (Y) which creates another field inside Y they part company and the primaries become the motive force that exerts motion onto Y provided Y is a closed circuit with resistance of it's own."

I thank you Doug for this EXCELLENT ANALOGY as it helped many people with their overall assessment of the operation of the Figuera device. well except for a slithering few i don't want to mention. at least everyone on the Continuum got it which is most important since we are building and they are running their mouths not building.

in other words, when the primaries impart induction into the secondary and currant begins to flow in the secondary connected to a load, the lenz law will kick in and impart another field in the secondary causing the primary and secondary fields to be basically separate (parting ways) thus allowing the primary opposing fields to be the motive force that basically pushes and maintains the independent secondary field from The side to side motion in the core provided the secondary is connected to a load and having some resistance.

Again the Secondary develops it's currant through induction and establishes it's own magnetic field and is maintained as a result of the relative motion of the primaries and it is this field that the primaries shifts from side to side.

this very field are the massless, weightless fields UFOP has been talking about and also Walter Russel's Analogy on the previous post, belonging solely to motion and NOT substance or mass. it is this very massless, weightless field that the primaries push from side to side, PURE MOTION MY FRIENDS..

while my Synopsis is very descriptive on the Figuera device this digs a little deeper into the operation specifics and interactions of the primary, secondary and the load.

again folks i hope this helps clear the fog on the overall operation of the device and thank you Doug for the awesome info, AS ALWAYS.

MM

[marathonman]

Motor circuit

Shadow;
I still can not get over How beautiful that motor is. from the day i found it i have raved at it's beauty and every time i see it it's like the first time you met your girl friend or wife.

The video is on the web site that shows how to wire it. i thought there was a wiring schematic on the site also, if not it can be asked for at no charge. a large LED tach can be added to it also for speed visual verification. if i find it before you i will send it to you by email buddy.

UFOP;
Quote;
"Electricity and magnetism are not two separate ‘forces’, nor are they two separate substances. They are merely two different dimensions of motion. They belong solely to motion and not to substance.

this quote is from yours truly Walter Russel and does that not sound like the Weightless, mass less field we have been talking about and UFOP has been harping about. you know the field that doesn't exist in modern day classical BS and can not be comprehended by most that is taught classical BS.

Magnetism is the brakes to Electricity, it keeps it in control, two sides of the same coin.

things that make you go HUMMMM !

MM

[Shadow119g]

Dc motor

MM

Could you show me a how you wired the following: for the motor, speed controller and servo consistency master?

By the way the motors are once again selling on the ALL ELECTRONICS!
I bought another one in case I screwed the first one up trying to figure out
how to wire the components.
OH WELL.....................DUH!

Welcome aboard PMAZZ850S

Shadow

[marathonman]

Figuera System

This pic is for some people that are still fuzzy in their pursuit in the figuera device.
while the drawing is crude and the real Part G is a closed core, this visualization still gets the point across between the exciting system and the Generating system.


Exciting within BLUE lines.
Generating within RED lines.

MM

[marathonman]

Part G

Welcome pmazz850 to the Continuum, as you might have noticed we do have some rules on page one so please abide by them.

Very good start on your build, your part G look good and sturdy plus room for more winding's if needed. haven't seen it run so i hope it is balance for proper RPM's.

as for this thread, thank you, it was started for people that DOES NOT lack enthusiasm and enjoy working with like minded builders that don't mind sharing.

From your part G i see you must at least understand some of the Figuera device which puts you miles ahead of other people that i won't mention. If you have any questions please feel free to ask but reading and understanding all the patents and the first page of this post will help in your pursuit. my Synopsis will help in the understanding of the device as will studying graphs and pics in my photo albums.

Halogen bulbs have worked good for me in testing. when you use higher power for testing they make 120 volt 500 watt halogens that are great for visualization of currant rise and fall of part G.

Again and happy building.

EDIT;
I see you have no winding's left at the end of you Part G as it is connected straight to your commutator. the amount of winding left on the ends will be your governor for your minimum and maximum currant potentials of part G and sets the window of currant it so operates in. something to consider.

MM

[pmazz850]

Hey pmazz, yeah all you need is a variable supply to run your motor and a 12v battery to feed the positive brush, i just used a 12v 7ah.

It is ideal to be able to run the drive motor down to slow rpm's if possible, to see the distinct alternating of the bulbs, i understand that may be hard for you with your controller.

Look forward to it.

Cornboy.

Cornboy,
Sorry for the confusion there. The power for the small motor I have covered, Lipo and a servo tester to make it variable.

I was referring to the power for part g.

Regards.