Figuera Device, Part G Continuum.( Serious Builders Only)

[Cadman]

Very interesting Cadman,

I have some questions as to understand the "geometry" of your method kind of graphically in my mind...

Horizontal Layers: Are the Layers wound longitudinally, comprehending all core length?...then stacking one on top of the other?

Vertical Layers: Or are Layers wound to gain in Height, while being short in length?...then aligning next to each others from start to end of core?

Thanks


Regards


Ufopolitics

Ufo,

4" long bobbin, start at left, wind full length toward right 96 turns, then continue right to left 96 turns, terminate the wire. Repeat 2 x. Connect these 3 coils in parallel.

Regards,
CM

[Cadman]

QUOTE; "This slightly staggers the time involved with the inductive discharge and reduces the sparking."

reduces sparking, i thought that was make before break was for and this will also reduce inductive kick to part G. ????

MM

MM,

I replied before you added this. Perhaps it would be better expressed as a reduction of amplitude over a longer time span rather than a reduction in quantity.

CM

[Ufopolitics]

Ufo,

4" long bobbin, start at left, wind full length toward right 96 turns, then continue right to left 96 turns, terminate the wire. Repeat 2 x. Connect these 3 coils in parallel.

Regards,
CM

Yes, I like it...

And if it works...according to the math...I can tell you that the Magnetic Field would be much, but I mean MUCH Stronger than the regular continuous wind (in series)

Only thing though...you wrote before they connect in parallel BUT with opposite polarities between them...can't do that...cause you will reverse the field on each layer subgroup to S---N and on top N---S...right?

The method was to subdivide the coil into individual layers. This is NOT a twisted multi-filar coil. Each layer(s) is wound as a single coil with it's ends connected to opposite polarities. The coil layers are connected in parallel to each other.

I see conn. between them as pos to pos and neg to neg like a truly parallel to keep same uniform poles at each ends.

If you connect sub layers between them as Pos to Neg...then they would be in series, not parallel...


Please correct me if I am wrong.


Regards


Ufopolitics

[Cadman]

Yes, I like it...

And if it works...according to the math...I can tell you that the Magnetic Field would be much, but I mean MUCH Stronger than the regular continuous wind (in series)

Only thing though...you wrote before they connect in parallel BUT with opposite polarities between them...can't do that...cause you will reverse the field on each layer subgroup to S---N and on top N---S...right?

I see conn. between them as pos to pos and neg to neg like a truly parallel to keep same uniform poles at each ends.


Please correct me if I am wrong.


Regards


Ufopolitics

Where did I write with opposite polarities in between them??

Let me try it this way, the three coils are connected in parallel to each other, the start of each coil segment connect to + lead, the end of each segment connect to - lead.

I don't know how much plainer to say it.

CM
Edit: OK I see. Expressed poorly by me!

[marathonman]

Coils

I will be winding two layers with both ends connected for lowest possible ohms and inductance. (paralleled) around 120 to 130 winds.
since i am pursuing electronic timing the sparking will not be an issue for me as long as M.B.B. is observed.
as also keeping in mind about where the pressure is going to go once it is squeezed into it's own core.???

MM

[Ufopolitics]

CM
Edit: OK I see. Expressed poorly by me!

Is Ok,

I see it clearly now. It should work fine then...all positives together and all negatives together, so we will have three sub groups of Coils...and each subgroup will have Two(2) Layers, one from start to end, and other from end back to start...finished first coil subgroup...next..and so on..etc,etc


I believe Magnetic Field would be greater (stronger) than the typical series full wind...As Currents will travel much faster...then even faster response...excellent!!

Btw...did you remember on that book somewhere about windings type for better "Attraction Electromagnets" (which bolts down to a stronger magnetic field)...where the higher population of windings concentrate at each of the Core Ends?...While leaving much less windings at very center?

I picture that kind of coil shape like two cones joint by their upper ends ><...

This way the Magnetic Poles would concentrate more density at each extreme of core (further away) then as well having much less magnetic leakage (spatial losses) between both poles, since poles stronger concentration are even further apart than a typical uniform wind.

This reduction of copper at center plus more copper at ends do not need to be that much radical differences as I pictured before with two cones...,and still performing better I think...

Regards


Ufopolitics

[Cadman]

I will be winding two layers with both ends connected for lowest possible ohms and inductance. (paralleled) around 120 to 130 winds.
since i am pursuing electronic timing the sparking will not be an issue for me as long as M.B.B. is observed.
as also keeping in mind about where the pressure is going to go once it is squeezed into it's own core.???

MM

Huh, I would have guessed you would be using more turns.
When you are ready to pass on more details I'm sure there will be other things that will surprise me.

Looking forward to that time!

Btw...did you remember on that book somewhere about windings type for better "Attraction Electromagnets" (which bolts down to a stronger magnetic field)...where the higher population of windings concentrate at each of the Core Ends?...While leaving much less windings at very center?

Regards

Ufopolitics

Skimming the book again I couldn't find that. I did find mention of winding the coil evenly as the best method for DC, and specific mention that this was not true for coils using AC, but nothing beyond that.

Can you point to the page?

Regards,
CM

[marathonman]

no page needed

Mr. CADMAN;

I don't need a 100 year old book to tell me how to wind a low ohm, low self inductance coil, no disrespect sir. part G controls the currant, you are to occupied with ohms and this and that.

primaries need to be the lowest ohms possible to get the most intense field possible. at 5 amp peak that is what i am doing. 18 awg wire can handle more than you think at 2.08 milliseconds for USA and 2.5 millisecond for all else. this amount of coils at that currant is at saturation of my core.

i will not ever dictate your build but these parameters are some things to consider. your goal should be the biggest bang for the buck and i understand you realize that.

if my primaries were zero ohms it be perfect but unfortunately we might not be able to do that, losses are going to happen.

maybe just two different winding styles achieving the same thing


PART G CONTROLLS THE CURRANT please don't forget that.

just saying.

MM

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[marathonman]

Humble

My most humble thank you sir ever.
well put, well said.

To all;
like i have been saying for a long time PCBWAY is unbelievably fast. i ordered my timing board on Tuesday the 25th, in production on Wednesday the 26th, today Sunday the 30th at 3:30 am it sits in Cincinnati DHL hub waiting to come to Texas....... thats very fast.from China to.

on post #6 i outlined how to wind the primary cores and this is for a reason. as the pressure wall of the primaries are swung over to the receding electromagnet, the wall being high pressure will suppress all incoming currant while the pressure in the core will be high also. at that very time the pressure in part G will be low for that input allowing the high pressure in the receding electromagnet to be transfered to the core of part G in the form of a magnetic field feeding part G every half turn. this very action allows the electrical energy to be recycled back and forth between the primaries and part G. in the patent it says ONLY A FRACTION OF THE OUTPUT IS USED to run the motor and replace losses occurred which are from core, heat and wire loss, which are very little.

so ask your self this simple logical question; " if the second secondary is only a fraction of it's output being used to run motor (very small) and to replace losses (small) then where is the power comming from to maintain it self"???

simple logical and sane answer; the power in the system is recycled between the primaries and part G and what little losses there are (very efficient system) is replaced from the (fraction ) of the second secondary. meaning of fraction...... very small portion.

any other answer is utter hogwash and insanity to the 5th degree. so now do you think part G is important??
you darn right it is.

do you think a person that doesn't believe this or doesn't follow simple logical guidelines will ever get the device running???

not a chance in hell.

so ask yourself; would you follow a person that can't think logically, out side the box or even understand a patent???

not a chance in hell.

think people, that is what your brain is for.........well most of us anyways !

imagine that.

MM

[Netica]

Hi marathonman and all,

Glad to be aboard and to able to contribute when possible, and glad you liked some of my previous videos I have done.
Thank you UFop for the kind words.

I just like to post a pic of my set up. It is very much an overkill but it has been put together with things I have had on hand and achieves the task needed for now.

[Netica]

This is a picture of the output from my G core just to show and back up what I have previously stated, and that is that it works with respect to splitting the current into opposite outputs regarding High Low. One side being high the other low at the same time.

At the time I was powering 12volt lights.

This may not be an ideal wave form. I have only started playing around with it. It is only ment to show that the G core works in the way predicted by marathonman.

[marathonman]

Replacement

NETICA;

Now we know whose building to replace Hoover Dam power plant. ha, ha, ha .......... all in good faith Mr. netica.

looks great presence well received and appreciated.

QUOTE;
"This may not be an ideal wave form. I have only started playing around with it. It is only ment to show that the G core works in the way predicted by marathonman."

NO WAY ! according to certain people i am crazy and don't know what i am talking about so that can't take place....no, not in their minds but in REALITY......BOO YA ! right over left field wall..... home run.

this my friends, is a home run for all forum members around the world that are following Figuera.

i may be broke and can't afford much but i shure in hell can spread the word.....thats free.

FANTASTIC NETICA, very nice oscilloscope...... i have a cheap Owan but it works.

now all you need to do is extend on time for the lows to round it off, reduce high time slightly then bring reduction to no less than half way and you will have a winner my friend.




MM

[Ufopolitics]

Hi marathonman and all,

Glad to be aboard and to able to contribute when possible, and glad you liked some of my previous videos I have done.
Thank you UFop for the kind words.

I just like to post a pic of my set up. It is very much an overkill but it has been put together with things I have had on hand and achieves the task needed for now.

Hello Netica,

You are welcome, and it is all my pleasure!...I know very well you are an excellent builder here!!

It is a very nice and robust built Switching System...and simply it is a Proof of Concept that Part G works beautifully, without the need of any resistors at all...As it can Modulate Currents based on Inductance and Magnetic Reactance...Wonderful!!

So far you are doing exactly what are the BASIC REQUIREMENTS...which is NOT Allowing Fields to EVER Collapse nor go below zero (reversing fields)...As is to Rise and Fall Fields in a smooth fashion and not in a steep, not radical, vertical drop offs...excellent!!.

Your Tests constitute the Solid Grounds to establish that Part G functions according to MM Spec's.

And so...from here it is just a matter of making the proper adjustments and enhancements to Time Machine according to the Virtual Magnetic Fields variations to effect the perfect and stronger Induction at Secondaries...

In my opinion, to drive your signals to perfection...the Lows would need to rise positively a bit more, like around 50% of Max values. So, if you have here a max of 11 V...they should drop to around 5 to 6 V...

This type of driving system have the tendency (like any other increasing "signal over time" system) to "shrink" signal over time at higher speeds, this reduces the contact times as tend to make more radical rise and drop offs...so it is good to start checking the Spread to be pretty wide at low speeds...in order that driving it at required 3000 to 3600 RPM's...would still reflect the smoothness of rise and fall.

Excellent work and many thanks for posting them here!!


Regards


Ufopolitics

[marathonman]

Part G overhead view

i wound my Part G from Set S to Set N starting on the left going up CW. i think in the past i might have mentioned ccw for some reason or brain fart and for this i am sorry.

the pic below is Figuera part G from above. notice the winding"s starting With Set S going up on the left side to set N is CW to get the proper N><N repulsion fields at the positive clockwise rotating brush.
this would allow two separate feeds to be independently varied but in complete unison.
also notice the core is wound with one continuous winding. i hope this clarifies some confusion on which way and how to wind part G.



MM