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  • Cornboy 555
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    Hi All, there will be no giving up from me either, been delayed with Planting garlic, 500mm of flood rain, and the consequences.

    Also needing materials and tools etc, but only go to town once a fortnight.

    Back on track soon hopefully.

    @ Shadow, i feel for you.


    Regards Cornboy.

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  • Shadow119g
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    Still!

    HA HA
    I am still working on my part G and may start all over again.
    Just the way things work!
    However....I can be stubborn and "NEVER GIVE UP"
    Shadow

    Good luck to all!

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  • marathonman
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    More Delays

    Sorry again for the delays in posting, money just doesn't go very far these days. had bills i plum forgot about that again left me broke but i got a four dollar an hour raise on my job yesterday so this coming friday i will get everything i need to resume my build and testing.

    I have today off so i will be reviewing my notes and hopefully will come up with a solution to the problems people are experiencing with their part G. energy in the Figuera device is reused and not destroyed or wasted due to part G and it's inductive qualities of storing power in the form of an magnetic field for later use. this very feature can not be obtained by using resistors in any way, shape or form. some are completely oblivious to the fact that just because the patent doesn't say it specifically that it is not happening and this would be your mistake and yours only.

    a condition that is happening in one part of the device does not mean it will necessarily happen in another part as the same conditions are not met causing a different condition or reaction to take place. by observing the actions and conditions of each part separately will allow one to see much more clearer. for one just to say that energy is not reused or recycled would be so far from the truth, just because the patent did not specifically say so is hilarious in it's self and if this is your belief then you are denying yourself from the truth and the glory of this device.

    part G is basically a large inductor with self inductance and as we all know, well at least most of us that an inductor stores energy in the form of a magnetic field thus when the power drops the inductor will dump some of that power back into the system. every time power is introduced to the inductor it will store it as a magnetic field but because all systems are inherently losssy a portion of the output must be used to replace the losses through heat, wire and core losses.

    well got to study so i will talk later.
    keep up the tests folks, the end can't be to far away.

    MM

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  • marathonman
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    Build

    Sorry i haven't been posting, have been working a lot of hours and am exhausted when i come home crashing at 8 pm.
    still need some parts to come in and will try to post some next weekend when i get a chance to build.

    Heard some BS on the news that car manufacturers are going to charge more for high mileage cars from the added expense. what a crock of SH*T.
    in 1933 Pogue designed a carb that got 100 mpg, in 1975 a design got 150 MPG then again in 1983 GM did a study on a carb that got 258 MPG that vaporized the fuel. why do you think Butyl is used in the production of fuel, to foul up high mileage carb's. it renders them useless in a very short time. there is no other reason for the additives those crooks use them for other then greedy profit.
    Our Governments and Corporate greedy thugs are out to get your money to keep you at poverty level.
    that is why this device is so important to the people of this world, to stop the suppression and advancement of each and every one of you. having this device will stop them from steeling your money and using it against you.

    I dream of a free society where each individual can pursue their dreams to it's fullest.

    MM
    Last edited by marathonman; 03-11-2017, 01:19 PM.

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  • marathonman
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    this is a good thing

    It will look good shadow when you are finished.

    Motor and controls are coming as are brushes, will be here next week.

    new job is going great, owner loves me so i see many great things in the horizon.

    MM

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  • Shadow119g
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    Stuff

    MM
    "mount another piece of plexy to mount your speed control and electronics/'

    Great idea, the speed control will be mounted nest to the Tachometer.
    I have two tachometers from years ago...will try those first.

    Good luck everyone,

    Shadow

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  • marathonman
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    Part G

    Part G is the whole key to the device. trying to change the primary, secondary configurations will do nothing but confuse and waste time.

    once part G is set the rest will follow. the words of Doug are shouting at me hard, build the original first the go hog wild after that.

    income tax almost here, build time will recommence.

    MM
    Last edited by marathonman; 02-28-2017, 01:38 PM.

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  • marathonman
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    Part G

    Shadow;

    Nice looking mount, man that motor sure looks good mounted. was wondering if you plan to mount another piece of plexy to mount your speed control and electronics on in front or beside the motor.?
    just curious.

    it will when i an finished.

    UFOP;
    sounds like some good advise.

    MM

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  • Ufopolitics
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    [QUOTE=Cornboy 555;299196]
    @ UFO, no i havn't split the winding yet.
    It's not worth testing until i sort out the rotary internal brush properly, it has to be very accurate and very solid and stable, for best results.

    I will also be using a heavier brush from a traction motor, which if need be can span at least 4 bars.`-QUOTE+

    That's fine friend...

    Originally posted by Cornboy 555 View Post
    My only and main concern is enough magnetic resistance in the toroid, and primaries, as a whole circuit, to limit the start up current down to manageable levels.

    I won't be testing the whole power circuit, until i have a load on the output secondary, and have the second secondary rectified an fed back to input of brush.

    Once the input is fed from the s.secondary, and outside source dis connected, i am thinking that high current won't be an issue internally in the device.

    Will be very interesting.

    Regards Cornboy.
    According to your Part G config...you will need quite some amps and not much voltage to generate the right flow, then generating a field.

    I highly recommend that you get it first running at a suitable speed...like 1800 RPM's (50%) or so, before even applying one single amp. Then increasing amperage-voltage very, very slowly regulated...

    That is also my concern as well...


    Regards


    Ufopolitics

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  • Cornboy 555
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    Nice looking switch Shadow, great work.

    @ UFO, no i havn't split the winding yet.
    It's not worth testing until i sort out the rotary internal brush properly, it has to be very accurate and very solid and stable, for best results.

    I will also be using a heavier brush from a traction motor, which if need be can span at least 4 bars.

    My only and main concern is enough magnetic resistance in the toroid, and primaries, as a whole circuit, to limit the start up current down to manageable levels.

    I won't be testing the whole power circuit, until i have a load on the output secondary, and have the second secondary rectified an fed back to input of brush.

    Once the input is fed from the s.secondary, and outside source dis connected, i am thinking that high current won't be an issue internally in the device.

    Will be very interesting.

    Regards Cornboy.

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  • Ufopolitics
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    Multiple responses...in one post...saving time.

    Hello to All,

    @ Cadman: Friend, thanks for your testing, I have not ignored you, so please do not take it that way, have been swamped.
    However, for some reason your results were not even close to what I am working on now, and so was expecting to be similar.
    Thanks again!!

    @ Cornboy: Hello Cornboy, I meant to write the day when your test failed...but I couldn't...so, I will do now:
    Your brush distance from shaft/aluminum drum to contact surface is too long, this causes a lot of play and vibrations when running, got to be much closer, more compact.
    I was gonna ask you...did you try opening Part G windings and just leaving some copper rings not connected for brush to ride on...when making the bulbs test?

    @ Shadow: Nice looking rotary switch, nice motor and whole set up!!


    Regards to all


    Ufopolitics

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  • Shadow119g
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    Slowly but shurely!

    Part G finally done.
    Marathon Man I hope your electronic part G will work!
    Sign me up for two or three!

    Not kidding,
    Shadow
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  • marathonman
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    Part G

    Yes we will see.

    At a time before the idiocy of Einstein took hold or rather the great cover up, physicists were true to the cause. putting yourself in the shoes of Figuera at the turn of the century there were only two ways to manipulate currant, one being wire resistance and the other magnetic resistance. having your choice of the two which one would be more efficient and which one would be the most wasteful. of course wire resistance would be the most wasteful because it is wasted as heat and lost and unrecoverable.
    so that leaves us with magnetic resistance that is even rarer in use back then and not at all now except in reactors used in control systems and such.
    using a magnetic field to control another magnetic field thus currant flow was a technique used by few but was dead in the sites of Clemente Figuera and was implemented in his device as a means of control.

    using a magnetic field in the form of reluctance, inductance, impedance or self inductance or what ever your preferred tag is, is by far the most efficient way to control currant because of the fact that their is no waste heat and major losses. the power is stored in a magnetic field in the core as power is introduced into the system or wires of part G. by storing this power in a magnetic field it allowed Figuera to reuse this stored power at a later time when the power is dropping it can turn the magnetic field into usable power.

    of course as with all systems built by humans and our understanding of nature (lack of) there is losses so Figuera used the primary being shoved out the secondary to feed part G and a fraction of the secondary output to aid in replacing the losses.

    using two opposing fields in the core of part G allows one to split one feed into two and control the currant separately for each primary and store the power in the magnetic field for later use. so you see part G has multiple functions and would be hard to replace or not use at all as the lack of it will render the system non self sustainable.

    Figuera was a true Genius.

    MM
    Last edited by marathonman; 02-26-2017, 02:35 PM.

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  • Grey Wolf
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    MM, Thanks for the compliment. Although I am not presently building on a part G on my device, I have built one previously and did not have success with it. It was only 3.5 inches on the OD. May have been too small to hold a flux. I am rebuilding a resistor bar with 7 coils of 325 turns of 16 ga on each made on laminated soft iron. It will be connected like you are doing with the torroid but each will have its own core. We'll see what happens. Grey Wolf

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  • marathonman
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    Holder

    I think a wider diameter brush holder should alleviate the problem allowing the housing to be closer to the toroid as the thin frame around the brush is probably vibrating.

    Good call GW.

    MM
    Last edited by marathonman; 02-25-2017, 09:12 PM.

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