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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
    Core,


    The reference link to that Article was on first page...:

    Ufopolitics
    Well, with all do respect, the reporter never claims to see the machine running, also Cook himself states the machine is not completed.

    Where is the quote that the reporter actually SAW the machine in operation. There is no eyewitness report of such a fact. Re-read the last 5 paragraphs of the report.

    I understand very well we all want to believe all these stories are true, however we need to be careful not to add events where they don't exist.

    His patent might of been filed to secure his intellectual property, and that's it. Did anyone else know that he had a bother as an assistant? Because the reporter claims his sister-in-law was the assistant and the biography claims his brother was.

    -Core

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    • #32
      About "Rick Friedrich"...small talk...

      Hello to All,

      I had a small discussion with Rick Friedrich...on his first part boring video on YouTube.

      The First Free Energy Patent is Misunderstood. Part 1 Daniel Cook

      The guy have the tendency to underestimate other people comments...unless they agree and bow at him.

      When I asked about the missing Circuit and parts "D" which is exactly the Driver for this device...below was his answer:

      Patents were written for those skilled in the art, so circuit D was implied in the wording and not necessary to draw. Just as the rheostat wasn't drawn.
      Obviously I was not "skilled in the Art" enough...since I could not understand such simple explanation from God gift to Humanity... "Rick"...

      My answer was:

      Cook refers to Circuit "D" same way he refers to Core "A," Helices "B" and Assembly "C"...Meaning it is a "Cited Reference" On Patent, however, it is not shown.
      After that He just blocked me from adding any more comments...

      He is trying to "shove" everyone his bright "Interrupter idea" on this Patent...and anyone who disagrees he will get them out.

      However, He have not reached any positive OU results with it...but we all must trust him...


      Ufopolitics
      Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Core View Post
        Well, with all do respect, the reporter never claims to see the machine running, also Cook himself states the machine is not completed.

        Where is the quote that the reporter actually SAW the machine in operation. There is no eyewitness report of such a fact. Re-read the last 5 paragraphs of the report.
        His assistant having arrived , who by the way is a young lady of handsome appearance , the work of demonstration began. I tested the current in several ways and found it very powerful. Having made electricity somewhat of a study , I was surprised at the simplicity of many of the principles. The manner in which he expects to get the results heretofore mentioned is theoretically correct , and there is no mechanical difficulty which he has not already overcome.
        Reporter is then taken to another room where the smallest of the Three machines was...and it was still under development. The one tested above was the 300 pounds in weight...roughly made.

        Originally posted by Core View Post
        I understand very well we all want to believe all these stories are true, however we need to be careful not to add events where they don't exist.

        His patent might of been filed to secure his intellectual property, and that's it. Did anyone else know that he had a bother as an assistant? Because the reporter claims his sister-in-law was the assistant and the biography claims his brother was.

        -Core
        It is not that ..."I want to believe..."...It happens that when you get the Big Picture about where all this "Mystery" lies, due to many, many thousand of hours of research and development....then you would be able to see beyond the normal ways to watch all "Material Evidence" exposed...

        It seems Cook was trying to "compact" the size of his invention in size and weight...and at that time, batteries were not like today we have Lipo's that carry very high density currents which could create very strong magnetic fields to "prime" machine...


        Ufopolitics
        Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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        • #34
          Not so fast?

          Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
          Not so fast Ufopolitics

          To prove he was unsuccessful you need to know more about the device he produced. I strongly believe it is the base ground for every important invention from his times up to now. Hubbard,Figuera,nazi flying saucer and probably many many more including Tariel Kapanadze first device and other inventions actually presented on youtube. Now the information is very incomplete but the same was for Figuera when we had only one old newspaper article at the beginning.

          Hello Boguslaw,

          Figuera died a few days after he filed the 1908 Patent, having signed some documents with some Bankers...then this Clown of Buforn (Bufón means Clown in Spanish) who started talking about the Sun and the Stars...and just copycatting Figuera's work , the Master who initially got everything together... we all could realize all the BS behind whenever any inventions like Cook's is shown...

          I always look for this final "Farewells"...they all match...with similar ends...disbelief, crazy people, not "educated enough"...mysterious deaths...and all kind of "Halloween Ends"......or pure Hoaxs, Scams...etc,etc

          Same exact thing has happened throughout History...same old story...same ends...it really gets boring.

          Do we still have something called "The Benefit of the Doubt"??!!

          I know very well I do...


          Ufopolitics
          Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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          • #35
            UFO

            Good pickup! I missed that paragraph in the story. So why do you think the biography states otherwise.

            I googled Arc Lights, didn't find a Cook model, as the Biography states it was used in NY.

            -Core

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Core View Post
              UFO

              Good pickup! I missed that paragraph in the story.
              It is not just a "casual" "good pickup"...it is just that I do follow the reading properly...not just a fast "glancing over the paper"...then drawing wrong conclusions...

              Originally posted by Core View Post
              So why do you think the biography states otherwise.-Core
              Why do you think that Ed Gray was killed?

              Why do you think that Dr Henry Moray all the sudden disappeared?

              Why do you think that Arie De Geus was found death right at the Airport?

              Why do FBI got involved in confiscating Tesla's Papers after his death in 1943?

              Why Eugene Mallove (Cold Fusion) was killed?

              Just go ahead and read all the reports from all this people above...am sure you will find about the same thing...not true, a hoax, not real...crazy, etc,etc ...

              There is not enough room here to keep going on and on like the Bunny Rabbit...

              It is not funny at all though...and gets to a point to be very disgusting, frustrating and makes me very, very upset..!!



              Ufopolitics
              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-05-2016, 02:28 PM.
              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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              • #37
                About this device...

                I just want to write in simple words...again, my opinion on this device...

                And I suggest before trying to start adding "thoughts" which changes the whole structure from its original and patented form...just think and think...and then again...think and rethink...

                And like I always do...I will FOCUS PRIMARILY on the Magnetic Field.

                A starting Priming Magnetic Field is Generated in the very inner core and coils A, which magnetizes all other surrounding iron tubular cores plus coils.

                In order for this device to work, there must be a Fluctuation of the Spatial Magnetic Field, which is NOT about collapsing it to zero or below...BUT just "weakening" it and "strengthening" it.

                But before, we must have a sufficiently strong magnetic field as to be able to strongly magnetize all outer iron components, this would be Max Field VA values.

                Then it is "primed" with a current fluctuation as Cook uses a Rheostat and a Battery...until reaching Minimal Values without killing Dipole (Magnetic Field) [Rheostat must have a mechanical stop before reaching zero or opening the circuit]..This "operation" must be done a few times, (And so do not expect that just like pulling the cord from a Two Cycles, fined tuned Lawnmower it will start right away)...this process is the key and starting slowly decreasing and increasing it til reaching heavy currents above input are obtained.

                This process is exactly like priming a carburetor...plus setting it in "choke" with butterfly semi-closed (before pulling cranking cord)...and if we have any defective "circuit"...like too much iron mass at secondaries, a bad connection...or a clogged fuel line...or a bad compression...a fuel soaked spark plug...and so thousands of possibilities of error...it will simply never start.

                As Cook writes on Patent...once it starts then it (the retracting Field) will self regenerate energy back into inner primaries and process will recycle over and over...however, we all know about losses here...which even being minimal under normal conditions it should keep decreasing/decaying...so, we have here a missing link, the driver to maintain cycles timely operative, (in that Lawnmower it is just a very tiny magnet ...set at flywheel and a respective static pickup coil aligned...which timely sparks at perfect timing for explosion to take place at the very right TDC and suitable compression...so just take that little magnet off...and watch if machine would run...) which in order to run, could just draw from output some minimal energy to keep running...maybe a small motor turning rheostat?


                Who knows...


                Ufopolitics
                Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-05-2016, 03:35 PM.
                Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                  It is not just a "casual" "good pickup"...it is just that I do follow the reading properly...not just a fast "glancing over the paper"...then drawing wrong conclusions...
                  Really? It would be nice if you applied that theory to the Figuera thread.

                  Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post
                  Why do you think that Ed Gray was killed?

                  Why do you think that Dr Henry Moray all the sudden disappeared?

                  Why do you think that Arie De Geus was found death right at the Airport?

                  Why do FBI got involved in confiscating Tesla's Papers after his death in 1943?

                  Why Eugene Mallove (Cold Fusion) was killed?

                  Just go ahead and read all the reports from all this people above...am sure you will find about the same thing...not true, a hoax, not real...crazy, etc,etc ...

                  There is not enough room here to keep going on and on like the Bunny Rabbit...

                  It is not funny at all though...and gets to a point to be very disgusting, frustrating and makes me very, very upset..!!



                  Ufopolitics

                  Gotcha....... A small town reporter is part of the great grand conspiracy. Makes all the sense in the world. I look forward to your build.

                  - Core

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Turion
                    UFO,
                    I agree with your post. There has to be something added. This is where I believe what Rick showed in his videos may come in. He stated that an induction coil needs to have a make and break circuit in it, but at the same time, if you break the circuit, you lose everything.

                    Rick says that the make or break (so that you GAIN the power from the coil collapse) is in parallel with a capacitor that keeps the circuit "complete". This makes perfect sense to me, although I haven't tried it yet.


                    Power charges both the coil and the in line capacitor, filling the cap until there is both voltage going in and voltage coming out...a complete circuit. And then the coil in parallel is allowed to collapse, adding that SPIKE to the system which is the increase you are looking for, while the cap in parallel lets the circuit remain complete.

                    That is how he explains it.

                    As I said before, I don't really trust Rick, but I DO KNOW that coils can store a charge just like a capacitor or a battery, and that energy can be moved around to do work, just like in the 3 Battery setup we have been working with. And the spike from the coil collapse in the pulse motor (interruptor) is what makes the 3Battery system so efficient. So at least SOME of what he is saying has basis in fact I have seen on the bench.

                    Dave
                    Thanks Dave,

                    However, there is a huge difference -from the point of a Magnetic Field- not to allow the Exciting Signal that feeds coil to fall flat line, nor below zero.

                    There is a big difference between Make and Brake...versus Make before Brake...

                    Obviously, in order to fully understand this...we must open our minds into a Spinning Virtual Field...only then is when we realize that by collapsing and restarting the field (make-brake) we are just doing one step forward...and one backwards...that is all we are doing...therefore, no progression, no evolution for induction to grow, transmitted into higher, progressive currents in the output coil's winding.

                    Although I do understand your point about using a cap to store the spike charges into it...have in mind if that energy stored there would be enough to "restart" field exactly to previous state...or not allowing it to collapse.

                    About Rick's statement:

                    He stated that an induction coil needs to have a make and break circuit in it
                    That is plain and pure non sense statement...let me ask you...when does a Generator makes and brakes during its operation?

                    The Exciting Field in any Generator out there is ON at all times...the only thing that "varies" there...are Fluctuations of the Magnetic Field Intensity through Time, by either approaching or leaving the Points of Max Induction at Output Coils!!

                    Even putting it in "Classic Terms" it would work...so let's instead say that all that changes there (Inside the Generator Exciting Fields relation to Induced Coils) are Flux Intensity Variations through time that never go zero, never reverse values...

                    Exciting Coils (Field Coils) never, ever go off...not in a brushed nor brushless generator.

                    Added Edit: Plus...why do you think that all Exciting Fields in ANY Working Generator out there do not use AC, but only DC?

                    For Generator Manufacturers would be much simpler to wire AC directly into the Exciting Fields...without any diode bridges, nor Caps plus all wires involved...that is a lot of money in savings Uh?...

                    AC goes in every cycle to Zero, then below to negative values...it is a constant +Make, Brake(0), -Make...and so on and on...obviously not good, right?

                    People...We must watch carefully what works out there in order to make such statements that easy, much less to trust them!!


                    Regards


                    Ufopolitics
                    Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-05-2016, 07:34 PM.
                    Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                    • #40
                      Possible Starter Circuit


                      Modification #1


                      Modification #2

                      The patent's wording appears to indicate to me, according from what I have read, that another coil could be used to inductively start the device running.
                      Last edited by vidbid; 11-06-2016, 12:19 PM. Reason: Added Image
                      Regards,

                      VIDBID

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                      • #41
                        Interrupter with Induction Coil

                        Originally posted by VIDBID
                        I think I'll look at some induction coil patents of the same era to see if there is any link in using interrupters.
                        Originally posted by Ufopolitics View Post

                        Good luck Vidbid!
                        Thank you, UFO.

                        Courtesy of Mr. Benitez's GB Patent #14,311:



                        Source: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf
                        Regards,

                        VIDBID

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                        • #42
                          Vidbid's Experimental D.M.Cook-based Circuit



                          Design incorporates an interrupter per induction coils of the late nineteenth and early twentieth century patents as in the case of a few of Benitez's patents.
                          Regards,

                          VIDBID

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                          • #43
                            Merging Conceptualizations



                            To have a thought is awesome!

                            To share a thought is magnanimous!
                            Regards,

                            VIDBID

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                            • #44
                              Got it...Interrupter...Three Times!!

                              Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                              Thank you, UFO.

                              Courtesy of Mr. Benitez's GB Patent #14,311:



                              Source: http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191514311A.pdf

                              Vidbid,

                              You are an excellent researcher, an excellent poster on this Forum...as an excellent Graphics-Display-Diagrams of your ideas...

                              I already got your Input and Great Search about the Interrupter Coils...and read them all...

                              Interrupter Coils _1

                              Interrupter Coils_2

                              As this nice find below:


                              Interrupter Coils_3>>Museum of Induction (Torpedo's) Coils with Interrupters

                              However, Induction Coils were develop First by Faraday...(and no Interrupter included)

                              After that they started with the "Coil Interrupter Fever"...as we can see in those pictures all these Torpedo's Coils...


                              This was the main principle which gave rise to the Relay Switching Devices, Solenoids...etc,etc as for the use in Medical Applications ...Telegraph...Telephone and many more...

                              But let me ask you this very simple question...

                              Have You ever seen one of these "Torpedo's Interrupter Coils" in Huge Scale...serving as a Full Working Generator...Providing Full Energy Generation in any Power Plant anywhere in this Planet through History?...and I mean, Substituting the known Rotary Poly-phase AC Generators at that time and even still in use Up to Date ?


                              I have not...and if you ever find one...please, bring it right on...


                              Their High Voltage from Spikes Output...is NOT a substantially constant output basically when it comes to delivering High Amperage at Constant and High Rates

                              High Voltage with very Low Amps (or interrupted Currents)...is just like Smoke, that vaporizes in air at nano seconds time...just Try it yourself, attempting to light up a suitable HV Rated lamp...

                              Nice Sparks though...must admit...a nice "Entertainment"..

                              And I really mean that if all of you guys...wanna keep interrupting coils and collapsing magnetic fields...please be my guest...keep doing it and I really wish you best of luck in all your development(s) and experimenting...I did that a very long time ago...it simply don't work for constant, substantial power generation output because of lack of Constant Power in the Amperage side.


                              Best Regards and Good Luck


                              Ufopolitics
                              Last edited by Ufopolitics; 11-07-2016, 03:59 PM.
                              Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind: Study the science of art. Study the art of science. Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.― Leonardo da Vinci

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                              • #45
                                I think the first thing that should be done in order to understand the patent is to familiarize ourself with the thinking and terminology of the era.

                                Davis's Manual of Magnetism. 1842

                                Read the section “Induction of Electricity” starting at page 125. It discusses many different coil types and currents and when and how they are obtained.

                                And on page 152

                                Primary current,
                                Secondary current,
                                Tertiary current,
                                Current of the fourth order,
                                Current of the fifth order,
                                Current of the sixth order,
                                Current of the seventh order
                                and their polarities.

                                After reading this I have to side with the interrupter. Even though a current is interrupted the magnetism in a large core takes a long time to dissipate and would surely continue to exist during makes and breaks of several hundred cycles per second.

                                Whether Cook's induction coils produce quantity or intensity is never mentioned, only that it is self-sustaining. Right?

                                Regards,
                                CM

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