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  • "woopyjump's" schematic.

    "Woopyjump's" BEMF oscillator circuit schematic below shows a hand written "0.47 Farad" capacitor in parallel with his "1.3 Henry" power coil and a diode in series. Woopyjump's test proves his BEMF oscillator is doing work without increasing input draw on his prime mover!
    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-05-2018, 03:53 PM.

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    • LC frequency.

      Reading woopyjump's figures as .47 micro-farads of capacitance and inductance as 1.3 milli-henrys, would yield a resonant frequency of 6.4 Kilohertz. This is ball parking because the other equivalents are way out of proportion. I'm just guessing here; The LC frequency is an important factor. Anyone care to try and arrive at a more accurate rating?

      I wrote and asked Laurent for exact ratings on his youtube channel. Here's a comment from the video that's relevent from "tenorsax999 JA":

      "Hey Woopy - Thanks for your creative demo - its very helpful. I've just created almost the same circuit using a 1000uF/250V cap to capture the spike and drive "Helper" coils with it via a HAL sensor & SSR (or NPN Transistor). It definitely speeds up the coil substantially w/ reduced current draw. It seems the helper coil switch signal timing must have a very precise pulse width (aprx 5ms for 500RPM)".
      Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-24-2018, 11:33 PM.

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      • LC resonance.

        This BEMF oscillator alternator inverter does not need a variable speed control because the maximum output is at a fixed rotor R.P.M.

        Looking at the latest oscillator design we can see that we're once again seeking advantage from the wire coil. The Electro-Magnet has advantages due to core inductance, but it does not benefit from the backing magnet as well.

        The positioning of a properly rated capacitor in parralel with the wire power coil generates an LC tank frequency that is un-dampened by the BEMF oscillator. This brings the input down to just the amount of power it takes to replenish the losses in the circuit from resistance.

        That leaves the amplifying features of the GAP style BEMF oscillator coil; This internal core magnet oscillator along with the capacitor, inverts the "High Spike BEMF D.C. pulse" to an A.C. current. That means we can illuminate a warm and steadily shining incandescent bulb directly off the oscillator coil output. I believe this configuration will generate the most useable and highest C.O.P.
        Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-25-2018, 06:45 AM.

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        • Twin GAP oscillators in tandem.

          Woopyjump's test has the primary power away from the pendulum magnet simply producing a backspike that is driving the magnet rotor through the high voltage winding secondary. The secondary power coil is in parallel with a capacitor.

          The LC resonance of the secondary coil and capacitor determine the R.P.M. of the rotor. The rotor has no output coil to generate power.

          The BEMF GAP oscillator needs a capacitor in parallel as well, and the LC resonance should be in phase with the rotor R.P.M.

          It would be possible to control the speed of the spinning magnet rotor and keep it in phase with the LC resonance of the oscillator by positioning the Reed switch over the oscillator instead of the spinning rotor magnet, right?

          What would happen if we replaced the magnet spinner with a second oscillator? This is a very intriguing idea that I have't fully explored, but everyone can see at first glance the multiple advantages twin oscillators in tandem would yield.

          The BEMF secondary oscillator would produce an LC resonance that would control the frequency of the primary backspike generating primary oscillator, and the coils would be of different wire thickness like "woopyjumps". The circuit would be identical to "woopyjumps" with simply the inclusion of one diode and only one contact DPDT output relay to handle both coils in synchronisity!
          Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-27-2018, 10:51 AM.

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          • Bifilar twin GAP.

            Imagine one bifilar air core solenoid coil: One BEMF thin wire high voltage winding with a capacitor in parallel at maximum output LC resonant frequency; The other a thick wire primary. One contact DPDT relay. A large powerful axial polarized tube magnet seated in the coil core center over a non-magnetic spring. A large disc backing magnet at the coil base in attraction, and a diode between the two coils. A power source and an output destination, or loop. A finished A.C. inverting power magnifying alternator. Voila! The "Gotoluc GAP"!
            Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-27-2018, 11:30 AM.

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            • Twin oscillator schematic.

              Here's a rough schematic of the twin BEMF GAP oscillator. The final output destination from the DPDT is not included in the diagram:

              The wires between the coils just attach to the beginning of the primary coil on the right where the battery's at. The secondary BEMF coil on the left triggers the overhead DPDT Reed switch with the tiny biasing magnet, and starts the primary pulse. The windings on the secondary oscillator coil should be the same thinness as Gotoluc's secondary and the primary oscillator coil wires thicker like his other one too. The value of the secondary capacitor determines the frequency of the two oscillations.
              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-05-2018, 03:53 PM.

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              • Gotoluc's first BEMF coil magnet video.

                This recirculating BEMF video number one of Luc's is a real classic nine years old this July:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STI3koWbzE4

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                • Delay.

                  It took Gotoluc at least six years to evolve the circuit woopyjump is demonstrating in this video. The important feature at 4:20 in this video is his discussion of the delay. This may require the inclusion of a timer relay in the output circuit of the twin oscillator to work in conjunction with the DPDT Reed switch:


                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tag5OlvPi54

                  It may work best simply to place a shorting diode across the primary electrodes as Gotoluc does in his first recirculating flyback video.
                  Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-29-2018, 01:00 AM.

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                  • BEMF shorting diode

                    This original solution of Gotoluc's may solve the delay problem. I plan to build and test this version tomorrow. This may be the finished prototype. Keep it simple stupid "KISS". Of course the coil wires go to the normally closed electrodes of the DPDT switch and then connect to the storage capacitor through a diode. Video soon to follow:

                    Start viewing this video at 5:40 where Luc starts talking about the recirculating diodes:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwE5WlHL48k&t=249s
                    Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-05-2018, 03:53 PM.

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                    • Recirculating diode

                      I failed to get any noticable difference in measurements with the shorting diode in my morning long coil magnet strength tests. Gotoluc was using a high frequency pulse. My tests are with single high amperage pulses like the pulses Luc uses in his twin BEMF coil magnet rotor.

                      The twin oscillator would only need a second SPST Reed relay output switch on the primary coil to handle the delay issue. Not a huge problem.
                      Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-29-2018, 02:35 PM.

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                      • Successful replication.

                        I changed the diode and was able to replicate Gotoluc's increased "Electro-magnet" coil strength with the reverse biased shorting diode alone. I'm grabbing a video directly to demonstrate the effect. This is an important test result!

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                        • Recirculating BEMF shorted diode test.

                          Here's the recirculating reverse biased diode magnet coil strength test video:

                          The 1N5400 power diode did not deliver any results; Two generic 1N4007's in parallel did: This test makes the single coil oscillator design shown in comment #324 above a viable alternative.

                          https://youtu.be/3u5B3-MAQcE
                          Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-29-2018, 06:42 PM.

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                          • Alternator name.

                            I'm torn between calling this alternator the "Gotalap" or the "Gapaluc".

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                            • DPST relay wiring.

                              The switch wiring is very simple. The output side is normally closed.

                              3 and 4 are the positive and negative coil electrodes.

                              1 and 2 are the positive and negative poles of the battery, and

                              5 and 6 are the positive and negative capacitor electrodes. This is the NC side.

                              Naturally there's a diode between the positive pole of the capacitor and the positive capacitor terminal of the switch. A FWBR may position there to loop back to the source battery.
                              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 04-05-2018, 03:53 PM.

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                              • Backing magnet field displacement.

                                Gotoluc's recirculating BEMF coil shorting diode and magnet experiments cannot generate any usefull power because any power from gravity is cancelled out by Lenz drag.

                                The displacement of the backing magnet field in the coil windings caused by the motion of the over head magnet piston accounts for most of the output in the "Gotagapillator".

                                The inclusion of the recirculating flyback diode alone mathematically describes an over unity relationship in this kind of magnet pump alternator.

                                The final COP would involve Hob Nilre's weight in copper ratio; Input to magnet force formula. The output would depend on the magnet force of the coil in direct proportion to it's weight in copper, not input. The greater the weight in coil copper, the stronger the force of the backing magnet and tube piston need to be, and the greater the output with the same fixed input. The output is not generated by the piston magnet, but the displacement and regauging of the backing magnet field.
                                Last edited by Allen Burgess; 03-30-2018, 04:54 PM.

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