Mechanical Magnetic Torque Amplifier

[Allen Burgess]

Sheer to push pull force

This guy measures his Sheer to Push Pull force amplification at 3.33 times as much:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLjgZWl4s8


Comment from the video:


Ima MagnetFanatic2,

"It is very easy to empirically observe that the Shear Force is less than the Pull Force in many situations. If you go to KJmagnetics and look up item BX0X0X0-N52 you will find a 1" cube magnet with a 94.6 lb pull force. If you click on the Pull Force Case 3 link you will see a log graph of the pull force curve. The maximum Shear Force required to shear the magnets will be right about 28.5 lbs. It is true that this corresponds to a distance of about 0.33 inches and this may lead someone to mistakenly believe that the total shear force is equal to the total pull force as you have to shear the magnet for 1 inch. However, the shear force is not a constant 28.5 lbs. Initially the shear force is less and it gradually builds up to the 28.5 lbs and then after 1" it precipitously drops to nothing. So just as the pull force is not a straight line, neither is the Shear Force. Furthermore, EVEN IF the Shear Force was a constant 28.5 lbs for the full inch then it is still easy to prove that there is excess energy in the Pull Force. The Pull Force chart only goes to 1 inch but there is STILL 7.5 lbs of Pull Force at 1 inch and there is still a significant amount of force after that which could be captured and utilized. In no way in two of these magnets could it be argued that the overall Shear Force is equal to the overall Pull Force. You don't even need a Push Pull meter to empirically observe this".

[Allen Burgess]

Piston

Three 7/8's tubes, Two fixed and one sheer magnet. In between, a 3/4" tube suspended between opposite polarities threaded on a brass rod. He double's the magnet strength on one end then retracts it by sheer and measures a 3.3 times increased amplification on the piston tube. Twin "Scotch Yokes" can actuate the transition: There's a "Pendulum Sheer Scotch Yoke version; This one has a power stroke, but would probably start oscillating on a 45 degree angle: Once the mechanism was unbalanced it would work to restore it's equilibrium.

[Allen Burgess]

PM from Luc:

Originally Posted by Allen Burgess
Luc,

Check out the 3.33 to 1 sheer to push pull neo tube piston on Ramset's thread. Tell us what you think!

Regards,

Allen

Very interesting Allen

Thanks for sharing and all your posts at the Energetic forum.

Hopefully this can lead to OU

Regards

Luc

"Ima Magnet Fanatic" trips a field reversal force from inside the neutral zone with the sheer trigger: He just nudges the traveler 7/8" tube magnet into the smaller 3/4" tube magnet repulsion zone with the negative force delivered by retracting the sheer magnet below and then he measures and compares the catapult force to the back sheer trigger force. The traveler tube is attracted back inside the reversal zone by the force of the sheer magnet when it returns to center. This is a free ride and adds an additional feature to Floor's measurements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtsHmE7_HDQ

"The magnetic ring of force is actually a magnetic disk of force. It's always located at the equator of a torus/dipole. You can stick two perfect man made magnets north to north or south to south. The trick to do this use a very large magnet and a small magnet. Force the small north pole magnet to the center of the large north pole magnet it will repel like in this video and then attract. The small magnet needs to be totally flush to the large magnet for it to attract. The small magnet will repel and flip over If any part of the small magnets rim isn't touching the larger magnet.(The rim of either pole of a magnet is where the magnetic field is strong and at the center of the pole a small circular region has a high gauss rating as well. In between these regions the magnetic field is far weaker.)".

It looks like the upper piston magnet is balanced right on the edge of the same pole attraction zone, in the retracted position; With out sticking to the anchor magnet with any measurable force. This mild sticking reduces the sheer force on the trigger magnet below.

The bonus feature of this piston is that; It re-cocks itself when the trigger's released!

[Allen Burgess]

Eureka!

Final "Overunity Design" pictured below: 4 self cocking units, triggering each other in succession. Once set in motion, this design would continue to run forever! Plenty of electrical output could be drawn just by building pickup coils around the powerful oscillating piston magents. This generator should deliver 3 times the force it takes to run itself, so it could easily produce kilowatts of power.

We can clearly see the "Trigger Sheer" magnet forcfully resetting itself at 5:11 in Ima MagnetFanatic's video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvLjgZWl4s8

This "Self Retraction" event adds a super plus advantage to the generator! "Ima MagnetFanatic" says the magnet tube glue dosen't hold up; A threaded brass rod and four aircraft locking nuts would solve that problem.

[RAMSET]

Luc explains his test rig a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6sbIgr2L8A

all comments on Luc's open source work appreciated.

also being discussed here
TD replications

respectfully
Chet K
PS
Much more to come...

[Allen Burgess]

First piston sucess.

My magnet order was cancelled due to address problems. I set out to improvise and got a working piston after a couple of hours with just materials lying around and some store bought garden stake bamboo for the anchor axle and side braces between the upper and lower piston magnets, and duck tape and elastic bands. I have nine radio shack ceramic rings three at each end held together by bamboo braces, and three attached to the bamboo axle in the center.

It's easy to just break the bamboo with a pliers after sawing a small notch. I placed a cork cocktail coaster at the base and used a 3/4" diametric neo tube to trigger it. The magnet piston starts to really bounce powerfully upon retraction of the attracting trigger magnet. The "Self Retraction" force is very powerful! The trigger has a sweet spot where there's very little effort to slide it toward you then allow it to draw itself back in. The difference in push pull to sheer is easy to feel. It works like some kind of magnet cannon. I'm trying to upload a video. Here's a fuzzy picture of it in the mean time. The tape's a little crooked on the bottom magnet.

[RAMSET]

A sneak peek prior to the finish and test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMVES42VbzA

[RAMSET]

and now assembled and ready to chain down [incase it runs away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsEbX8yJ91I

all comments welcomed and appreciated

respectfully
Chet K

[Allen Burgess]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsEbX8yJ91I

all comments welcomed and appreciated

respectfully
Chet K

Awesome demonstration of the sheer advantage. Looks like the kind of magnet piston sheer force advantage measured at 3.33 by "Ima Magnetfanatic"! My bamboo test version worked with the projectile force of a "Magnet Cannon" too! Here's a fuzzy shot showing me working the neo tube trigger under the cork cocktail coaster: I'm holding the central axle fixed down on the coaster, while the two connected piston magnets bounce up and down as the trigger magnet's moved back and forth underneath. The trigger magnet's attracted to the bottom piston magnet, so the diametric tube points the correct way automatically, and wants to stay fixed in position. This experiment proves anything will work!

[Allen Burgess]

Bamboo magnet piston

I'm in a race to beat Gotoluc to the patent office:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPi...ature=youtu.be


"A 1" cube magnet with a 94.6 lb pull force has a Shear Force of about 28.5 lbs". The ratio is 3.3."

That's the ratio Luc should measure in his contraption, same as the piston.

[RAMSET]

Patent office ??

Allen
surely you jest ?

Filing an FE patent
also known as "giving a man a stick to beat you with "....

I thought you were an open source guy ?
respectfully
Chet K
PS
your link doesn't work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPi...ature=youtu.be

[Allen Burgess]

Jounce video.

Here's a second video: This build is just to show how simply it can be made with a few pieces of bamboo and some duct tape.

https://youtu.be/awL8uIrj5NY

[Allen Burgess]

Public video setting.

Allen
surely you jest ?

Filing an FE patent
also known as "giving a man a stick to beat you with "....

I thought you were an open source guy ?
respectfully
Chet K
PS
your link doesn't work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPi...ature=youtu.be

O.K. Chet; That one's ready to go. Thanks for the heads up! The piston throw is small, but the sheer to push pull power is equally disproportionate to "Ima Magnetfanatic's" complex construction model.

[RAMSET]

and so it begins...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x_fCow3qR4

all comments welcomed and appreciated

respectfully
Chet k

[Allen Burgess]

Scotch yoke.

Luc's setup is just right for a Scotch Yoke: